Prado after the 2 week break

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BAD10 8/8/2025 12:03am
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I hope to see him do well, but at this point I think he needs a check up from the neck up. 

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Spoonguy 8/8/2025 5:09am
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Falcon wrote:
Yeah, I understand Lommel is a whole different animal. Part of the reason why GP riders are good is that they have to adapt to much...

Yeah, I understand Lommel is a whole different animal. Part of the reason why GP riders are good is that they have to adapt to much more varied track conditions. 

Spoonguy wrote:

Prado is demonstrating a European's awesome ability to adapt to tracks isn't he?

crusty_xx wrote:
It's a Jorge problem, not a European rider problem, clearly. But I guess you chose to ignore the rest of the dozen European riders for a...

It's a Jorge problem, not a European rider problem, clearly. But I guess you chose to ignore the rest of the dozen European riders for a reason and picked out the one guy that's struggling. Makes a lot of sense. The 32 y/o Swiss guy with the 30 hour old suspension oil is adapting pretty well it seems.

Again, missing the point. Your mass generalization of Euros adaptability is proven wrong by Prado. The whole Euro vs. American riders smacks of ethnocentrism and is dated. These riders are all individuals.

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30minmotos wrote:
He’s not trying, because he’s not happy / not comfortable. Who he’s getting passed by isn’t a sign of his speed vs theirs. He’s not trying...

He’s not trying, because he’s not happy / not comfortable. Who he’s getting passed by isn’t a sign of his speed vs theirs. He’s not trying and they are racing for their lives. He’s a multi millionaire and could have retired already where as some of the guys beating him are racing for their careers and livelihood while he’s cruising it in.


Once he’s comfortable that changes. If you think he’s in 15th-40th and he’s trying, you’re daft.


You can feel free to dislike him for not trying, but it’s not a representation of his skill/level/potential.

 

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How dare you make sense. Swap Sexton and jorges bikes give Jorge his old engine package and see the difference. Hell throw im on a star...

How dare you make sense. Swap Sexton and jorges bikes give Jorge his old engine package and see the difference. Hell throw im on a star yamaha and he will do better to. You dont lose that type of speed overnight.

Sexton I actually think will like the kawi better then the ktm and I said that the last time when he left honda. 

Prado's getting beat by privateers!! Some on stock KX 450s. Sexton would never ride like that. Even when his KTM set up was way off, he rode hard and was still contending. Prado is clearly slacking and he's on a factory bike.

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Austin Keyfinger 8/8/2025 6:50am
8/8/2025 6:50am

I dont mind seeing him get smoked week after week, he came here with the mindset that he was so much better then everyone racing in the states.

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Press516 8/8/2025 7:07am
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I expected Prado to be competitive outdoors for sure…. But this complete lack of effort has lost me as a fan.  And yeah, it’s not the bike…

On the other hand, I didn’t know what to expect from Vialle and I’ve grown to really like the kid.  

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EAmato88 8/8/2025 8:50am
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Picture this, Kyle Webster and Dylan Ferrandis both beat Prado at Ironman. Man, that would be BAD

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crusty_xx 8/8/2025 1:26pm
8/8/2025 1:26pm
Spoonguy wrote:

Prado is demonstrating a European's awesome ability to adapt to tracks isn't he?

crusty_xx wrote:
It's a Jorge problem, not a European rider problem, clearly. But I guess you chose to ignore the rest of the dozen European riders for a...

It's a Jorge problem, not a European rider problem, clearly. But I guess you chose to ignore the rest of the dozen European riders for a reason and picked out the one guy that's struggling. Makes a lot of sense. The 32 y/o Swiss guy with the 30 hour old suspension oil is adapting pretty well it seems.

Spoonguy wrote:
Again, missing the point. Your mass generalization of Euros adaptability is proven wrong by Prado. The whole Euro vs. American riders smacks of ethnocentrism and is...

Again, missing the point. Your mass generalization of Euros adaptability is proven wrong by Prado. The whole Euro vs. American riders smacks of ethnocentrism and is dated. These riders are all individuals.

Put Prado at Lommel or any of his home tracks and he's not top 5 the way he's riding right now. Adapting to tracks is the least of his problems right now... Otherwise his 2nd motos wouldnt be far worse than his first motos most of the time

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crusty_xx 8/8/2025 1:27pm
8/8/2025 1:27pm
Press516 wrote:
I expected Prado to be competitive outdoors for sure…. But this complete lack of effort has lost me as a fan.  And yeah, it’s not the...

I expected Prado to be competitive outdoors for sure…. But this complete lack of effort has lost me as a fan.  And yeah, it’s not the bike…

On the other hand, I didn’t know what to expect from Vialle and I’ve grown to really like the kid.  

Same here.
I could care less if a rider is struggling for some reason as long as he's trying. That whole throwing in the towel is hard to watch and there's literally no excuse for it.

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Dynamometer 8/8/2025 3:45pm
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Unless George goes back to a KTM I'm guessing more of the same.

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mxaddicted 8/8/2025 3:48pm
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Has anyone else noticed over on MXLARGE they have not done a top 10 riders list since Prado coming over here and struggling?

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Press516 8/8/2025 8:58pm
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mxaddicted wrote:

Has anyone else noticed over on MXLARGE they have not done a top 10 riders list since Prado coming over here and struggling?

Dan-The-Man wrote:

Good point. How do you come back to explain this? https://www.mxlarge.com/news/top-ten-riders-of-2024

Yes, that’s downright embarrassing…

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kage173 8/9/2025 3:19pm
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It all goes back to SX. You can't learn SX on a 450. It killed his confidence. That's why Gulliod is doing fine. Pure MX and the Euros are right in there with AMA riders. But throw in SX and its a whole different story. Especially 450 SX in your rookie year, which is the dumbest idea in the history of factory racing. Kawi deserves everything they're getting right now. They should've known better.

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30minmotos wrote:
He’s not trying, because he’s not happy / not comfortable. Who he’s getting passed by isn’t a sign of his speed vs theirs. He’s not trying...

He’s not trying, because he’s not happy / not comfortable. Who he’s getting passed by isn’t a sign of his speed vs theirs. He’s not trying and they are racing for their lives. He’s a multi millionaire and could have retired already where as some of the guys beating him are racing for their careers and livelihood while he’s cruising it in.


Once he’s comfortable that changes. If you think he’s in 15th-40th and he’s trying, you’re daft.


You can feel free to dislike him for not trying, but it’s not a representation of his skill/level/potential.

 

motomind00132 wrote:
How dare you make sense. Swap Sexton and jorges bikes give Jorge his old engine package and see the difference. Hell throw im on a star...

How dare you make sense. Swap Sexton and jorges bikes give Jorge his old engine package and see the difference. Hell throw im on a star yamaha and he will do better to. You dont lose that type of speed overnight.

Sexton I actually think will like the kawi better then the ktm and I said that the last time when he left honda. 

Indy mxer wrote:
Prado's getting beat by privateers!! Some on stock KX 450s. Sexton would never ride like that. Even when his KTM set up was way off, he...

Prado's getting beat by privateers!! Some on stock KX 450s. Sexton would never ride like that. Even when his KTM set up was way off, he rode hard and was still contending. Prado is clearly slacking and he's on a factory bike.

Harrison got 14th today, back to normal.

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Indy mxer 8/9/2025 3:42pm
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Prado didn't beat anyone today he shouldn't have. The second moto he was passed easily by Sexton and Jett. Then got smoked by Hampshire, and passed on the last lap by Cooper. He has no fight, World champion or not, he doesn't have what it takes to run with the top guys! 

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Can’t tough it out to hold on to 4th place for half a lap?  Player please.

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JMR1976 8/9/2025 6:07pm
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280driver wrote:

Can’t tough it out to hold on to 4th place for half a lap?  Player please.

Point to where Jorge hurt you.

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quadzrulebro 8/9/2025 7:05pm
8/9/2025 7:05pm

He looked really tired at the end of the second moto.  He stopped jumping things all the guys in front of him were doing.

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canciaro 8/9/2025 7:20pm
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lol dudes cooked 

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280driver 8/10/2025 10:34am
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280driver wrote:

Can’t tough it out to hold on to 4th place for half a lap?  Player please.

JMR1976 wrote:

Point to where Jorge hurt you.

I assume its the cat that typed that.

kaidodragon 8/11/2025 1:36am
8/11/2025 1:36am

If we compare him to the other euros around 

Time practice session 1 

2.06.786 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2.06.907 = Valentin Guillod
2.07.362 = Mathys Boisrame (clean track)
2.07.833 = Mikkel Haarup 
2.08.057 = Tom Vialle
2.08.142 = Benoit Paturel 
2.11.071 = Romain Pape
2.11.568 = Scotty Verhaeghe 

Time practice session 2 

2.01.923 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2.04.489 = Tom Vialle
2.05.240 = Valentin Guillod 
2.05.550 = Benoit Paturel 
2.06.968 = Mikkel Haarup
2.07.923 = Mathys Boisrame 
2.08.167 = Romain Pape
2.09.688 = Scotty Verhaeghe 

Race 1 gap 

+56.164 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
+1.51.120 = Benoit Paturel
+1.55.752 = Valentin Guillod 
-1 lap = Scotty Verhaeghe 
dnf = Romain Pape 

Race 1 lap times 

2.07.373 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2.09.613 = Valentin Guillod 
2.11.147 = Benoit Paturel
2.12.441 = Romain Pape
2.13.765 = Scotty Verhaeghe 

Race 2 gaps 

+53.319 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
+1.49.187 = Valentin Guillod 
-1 tour = Romain Pape
-1 tour = Benoit Paturel
-1 tour = Scotty Verhaeghe 

Race 2 lap times 

2.06.499 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2.12.046 = Valentin Guillod 
2.13.477 = Benoit Paturel
2.13.707 = Romain Pape
2.15.702 = Scotty Verhaeghe 

He still got a decent gap over the rest of the euros. He might not be as good as last year, but are we sure that his very best is enough speedwise compare to Chase and Jett ?

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