2026 gear and tariffs

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7/31/2025 8:59am
TbonesPop wrote:
I own (a portion of) and run a business.  People need to quit complaining/whining about it, figure it out and stop being victims.  America was built...

I own (a portion of) and run a business.  People need to quit complaining/whining about it, figure it out and stop being victims.  America was built on hard work, ingenuity, and creativity.  Figure it the EF out.  That's what we do.  Playing the victim card (not saying that is you) doesn't solve shit.  I'm tired of the excuses from people (again, not directing that at you). Improvise, adapt and overcome.  

Bet you played a victim under the last president instead of just saying ‘figure it the ef out’. 

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7/31/2025 9:01am
Graybeard wrote:
I'm calling bullshit on either the OP and / or Alpinestars here. Per the math, the OP saw a 15% price increase, and it was blamed...

I'm calling bullshit on either the OP and / or Alpinestars here. Per the math, the OP saw a 15% price increase, and it was blamed on tariffs. The EU agreement reached a few days ago was 15%, so the number seems to fit. However, the previous tariff before the agreement was 30%. So he should have seen a 15% REDUCTION in price, if, in fact, this is really driven by tariffs. We're seeing a ton of random price increases all blamed on tariffs, and companies are hoping people are just too stupid to do the math and figure out they are being scammed.  

The helmet isn't made in the EU though..

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Graybeard wrote:
I'm calling bullshit on either the OP and / or Alpinestars here. Per the math, the OP saw a 15% price increase, and it was blamed...

I'm calling bullshit on either the OP and / or Alpinestars here. Per the math, the OP saw a 15% price increase, and it was blamed on tariffs. The EU agreement reached a few days ago was 15%, so the number seems to fit. However, the previous tariff before the agreement was 30%. So he should have seen a 15% REDUCTION in price, if, in fact, this is really driven by tariffs. We're seeing a ton of random price increases all blamed on tariffs, and companies are hoping people are just too stupid to do the math and figure out they are being scammed.  

That’s like the supply chain bs they made up 4-5 yrs ago .  The highest ever rates where at that time , historic rates.  Feb 2021 they crashed & fuel skyrocketed. A crazy Serbian co said .90 co trk I get there & it’s hey buda we hv no co trk but we hv these 4 lease options.  I signed a walk away lease trk, trl.  Trk # 5 they wanted 3k a week I said I,m out .  I,ll switch to co or I,m gone .  Co trk pay dp to .80 but I made money then . The 1st 4 trks broke down every week its stress I lost 2 2 1/2 days in shops every week . You can gross 18k yet after fixed expenses, high checks of 1,800 , 2,300 & low -288.00.   Trks got 3.7 mpg junk tolls 1k + a day I ran the ne if a winter storm was coming I,d get a ld not to get stuck sitting to a area not getting hit. My window was 3.80 to 5.80 cpm . Fuel skyrocketed to 6.89 in Md. There safety rating was 98 yeah scary . They lost there authority. Same time they had drivers that did i10,20 to stay out of winter for 1.30 cpm.   Pussies afraid of snow & cold. The last 3 yrs Massive bankruptcies every week .  It’s actually cheaper now to operate a small cargo plane . Fuel went wayy up after I walked from the lease .  My dispatcher living in Serbia 1 of my best friends I ever had . Said how did you know rate where crashing & fuel going up ?  Sucks because we had a extensive plan to use another co.s authority with a good safety rating to get a much higher rate . I had to pay this co & dispatch of course. Yeah it’s illegal so what it’s done every day .  The co was total chaos they wouldn’t know if I did loads for a another co with there equipment. Haha  All kinds of 1099 drivers do this , crafty bunch.  We hv to sign a contract stating we will not do this , that how common it is.  I sign my name as Terry to void the contract. Haha funny I,ve been caught doing it , they give me a funny look & smile & say sign your real name on this 1. Haha  What’s better a ld that pays 10k or 5k I get 88% .  

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Graybeard wrote:
I'm calling bullshit on either the OP and / or Alpinestars here. Per the math, the OP saw a 15% price increase, and it was blamed...

I'm calling bullshit on either the OP and / or Alpinestars here. Per the math, the OP saw a 15% price increase, and it was blamed on tariffs. The EU agreement reached a few days ago was 15%, so the number seems to fit. However, the previous tariff before the agreement was 30%. So he should have seen a 15% REDUCTION in price, if, in fact, this is really driven by tariffs. We're seeing a ton of random price increases all blamed on tariffs, and companies are hoping people are just too stupid to do the math and figure out they are being scammed.  

You know the tariff money goes to the government right ? Drive just out of DC and you will see mansions all ovr MD. . That are easily 10 times the richest entertainer .  IMG 3956 0.png?VersionId=wMe8D4lQgdAZlqlKwC

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Serious question how do you think this will effect sponsorship?   When you send your resume out in sept . Instead of 2 free sets of gear & 50% off.  You get no free gear & 30% off.  And oil , etc co.s 

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I own (a portion of) and run a business.  People need to quit complaining/whining about it, figure it out and stop being victims.  America was built...

I own (a portion of) and run a business.  People need to quit complaining/whining about it, figure it out and stop being victims.  America was built on hard work, ingenuity, and creativity.  Figure it the EF out.  That's what we do.  Playing the victim card (not saying that is you) doesn't solve shit.  I'm tired of the excuses from people (again, not directing that at you). Improvise, adapt and overcome.  

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it sounds like you're part owner of a business that doesn't import very much. So, not your problem = no one else should have a problem, right? If I'm wrong, what percentage of your product is imported, how have the tariffs affected your pricing, and what are you going to/have you done about it?

I'll start:

The vast majority of our product input is made in USA. But USA made aluminum (a big chunk of that) has gone up in price because of tariffs. When the price of aluminum goes up somewhere, it goes up everywhere!

Some of what we buy is imported and there's nothing we can do about it. Bearings, seals, etc. So those prices all go up whatever percentage it is depending on what day it is and Trump's mood that day. More expensive and no stability to plan and make buying decisions. We're not bringing manufacturing of those products in-house, that would cost millions of dollars and never pay itself off at our volumes. 

So what do we do about all that? Nothing! We either suck it up, pay more, and make less money or pass it on to the consumer. Remember, we're in an industry that's tough to make money in in the first place! That's pretty shitty, don't you think? And there are 1000's of businesses in the same boat. 

On top of that, we have reciprocal tariffs to deal with all over the world. Our product now typically costs the end international customer more and that money goes straight to their government, not us (it's a tax, remember?). So we make fewer international sales now. 

Higher cost of goods and fewer sales. I guess that's making America great somehow?

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America currently has openings for around 500,000 good manufacturing jobs (and this will only get worse for multiple reasons). There was a time where you would...

America currently has openings for around 500,000 good manufacturing jobs (and this will only get worse for multiple reasons). There was a time where you would put your name in with the Union and expect to wait in line for up to 6 years to get called up for a job (John Deere is one example). Bottom line, right or wrong people no longer want to work in manufacturing. If we want to more manufacturing in America...great! However, it is important we do not get the cart before the horse. We need to figure out how to start importing people who want to work in manufacturing. I hate to write this...but this is our reality. 

DaveB771 wrote:

Deere is currently laying workers off.

Correct about Deere. They have an interesting history. I personally felt the pain of Deere hiring around 6,000 workers over about two years. Then, just as everyone went out and purchased a house and the associated debt, they laid all 6,000 workers off in about two months. Fortunately, a town like Waterloo is radically more diversified than in the 1980's, plus there are a biblical number of manufacturing jobs available in America. Meaning there are at least options.

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I would be willing to bet that the bros crying over "tariffs" did not make a peep during the rampant inflation years....

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7/31/2025 12:20pm
TbonesPop wrote:
I own (a portion of) and run a business.  People need to quit complaining/whining about it, figure it out and stop being victims.  America was built...

I own (a portion of) and run a business.  People need to quit complaining/whining about it, figure it out and stop being victims.  America was built on hard work, ingenuity, and creativity.  Figure it the EF out.  That's what we do.  Playing the victim card (not saying that is you) doesn't solve shit.  I'm tired of the excuses from people (again, not directing that at you). Improvise, adapt and overcome.  

Luxon MX wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it sounds like you're part owner of a business that doesn't import very much. So, not your problem =...

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it sounds like you're part owner of a business that doesn't import very much. So, not your problem = no one else should have a problem, right? If I'm wrong, what percentage of your product is imported, how have the tariffs affected your pricing, and what are you going to/have you done about it?

I'll start:

The vast majority of our product input is made in USA. But USA made aluminum (a big chunk of that) has gone up in price because of tariffs. When the price of aluminum goes up somewhere, it goes up everywhere!

Some of what we buy is imported and there's nothing we can do about it. Bearings, seals, etc. So those prices all go up whatever percentage it is depending on what day it is and Trump's mood that day. More expensive and no stability to plan and make buying decisions. We're not bringing manufacturing of those products in-house, that would cost millions of dollars and never pay itself off at our volumes. 

So what do we do about all that? Nothing! We either suck it up, pay more, and make less money or pass it on to the consumer. Remember, we're in an industry that's tough to make money in in the first place! That's pretty shitty, don't you think? And there are 1000's of businesses in the same boat. 

On top of that, we have reciprocal tariffs to deal with all over the world. Our product now typically costs the end international customer more and that money goes straight to their government, not us (it's a tax, remember?). So we make fewer international sales now. 

Higher cost of goods and fewer sales. I guess that's making America great somehow?

It's so nice to see someone who actually knows what they are talking about here! Cheers to you for coming on and giving real examples of the impact these tariffs have on companies.

I'll add this - Large companies that own most of the MX Industry, are not willing to take less margin. They have a board or private equity that they need to answer to. When cost goes up, they can't lose margin % or $'s and therefore the cost increase is passed onto the consumer. A 20% tariff on a $20 product doesn't mean a $4 increase. Once you add in distributors and retailers, your $20 product just went from $100 MSRP to $120 MSRP.

Enjoy the ride, it's going to get bumpy. 

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TbonesPop wrote:
Simple solution.  Buy American made, no tariffs. I have zero issue with paying tariffs, personal spending or in our business.  If I don't want to pay...

Simple solution.  Buy American made, no tariffs. I have zero issue with paying tariffs, personal spending or in our business.  If I don't want to pay it, I don't buy it.  If it's reasonable, I buy it.  

Try and find an American-made helmet and get back to us.

AND WHOS FAULT IS THAT?

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BobPA wrote:

I would be willing to bet that the bros crying over "tariffs" did not make a peep during the rampant inflation years....

You do realize rampant inflation years were global and not just in the US?


Also, my money spends the same as everyone’s in the United States.  We are all suffering from a weaker dollar and greedy people stepping on us.  We need to find common ground and see the humility in each other.  

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Broker pal called me and said 1 of the og,s a 70 yr old co . Just shutdown Carrol fuller a LTL co. Pam Transport a large co with a division hauling entertainers concert equipment is shutdown .  Not reported publicly yet.  The paranoia from price hike from tariffs has alot to do with it. And a Mega dead economy.  

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7/31/2025 1:17pm

So you guys are saying tariffs are the primary cause in the rise of cost to consumers or in other words “inflation” but the orgy and glut of money printing by the government the the past 4 years didn’t have anything to do with it… huh… interesting 🤔 

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Another thing to think about is it’s not just the cost of goods for the manufacturer that is going up. Take astars for example, say they are buying ez-ups for racer support and those have gone up. Staff shirts have gone up. The cost of the product they give away for sponsorships have gone up. That’s why the retail prices aren’t necessarily just going to get the bump from the tariff alone, but also to absorb their increased costs of operating the business. 

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Try and find an American-made helmet and get back to us.

Crutcher wrote:
There aren’t any. The idea is to make American manufacturing price competitive, squeeze the imports with heavy tariffs: short term buying slows down and companies are...

There aren’t any. The idea is to make American manufacturing price competitive, squeeze the imports with heavy tariffs: short term buying slows down and companies are forced to manufacture in America or die off. I’m sure I’m not telling anyone anything they don’t already know. 

As a guy that sells the two American brand helmets, I’d LOVE to be able to say they’re made in USA. I hope long term we’re able to achieve the goal. 

I could be wrong.. but regardless of method I think we can all agree we would love to be able to buy American. 

TbonesPop wrote:
I own (a portion of) and run a business.  People need to quit complaining/whining about it, figure it out and stop being victims.  America was built...

I own (a portion of) and run a business.  People need to quit complaining/whining about it, figure it out and stop being victims.  America was built on hard work, ingenuity, and creativity.  Figure it the EF out.  That's what we do.  Playing the victim card (not saying that is you) doesn't solve shit.  I'm tired of the excuses from people (again, not directing that at you). Improvise, adapt and overcome.  

We should isolate American consumer demand only to products made on US territory? Yeah that's not how the economy works.

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“Won’t affect the consumer prices” he said.  Bummer.  Maybe we can all stop trusting and idolizing politicians and have each others backs now.

If people listened to economists they'd already know this outcome would happen. 

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Try and find an American-made helmet and get back to us.

Crutcher wrote:
There aren’t any. The idea is to make American manufacturing price competitive, squeeze the imports with heavy tariffs: short term buying slows down and companies are...

There aren’t any. The idea is to make American manufacturing price competitive, squeeze the imports with heavy tariffs: short term buying slows down and companies are forced to manufacture in America or die off. I’m sure I’m not telling anyone anything they don’t already know. 

As a guy that sells the two American brand helmets, I’d LOVE to be able to say they’re made in USA. I hope long term we’re able to achieve the goal. 

I could be wrong.. but regardless of method I think we can all agree we would love to be able to buy American. 

TbonesPop wrote:
I own (a portion of) and run a business.  People need to quit complaining/whining about it, figure it out and stop being victims.  America was built...

I own (a portion of) and run a business.  People need to quit complaining/whining about it, figure it out and stop being victims.  America was built on hard work, ingenuity, and creativity.  Figure it the EF out.  That's what we do.  Playing the victim card (not saying that is you) doesn't solve shit.  I'm tired of the excuses from people (again, not directing that at you). Improvise, adapt and overcome.  

The imposition of tariffs usually stifles innovation as local companies have less competition. Witness what happened to US car manufactures following tariffs on Japanese car imports. 

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BobPA wrote:

I would be willing to bet that the bros crying over "tariffs" did not make a peep during the rampant inflation years....

What's your connection here? Oh, there isn't one. 

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TbonesPop wrote:
Simple solution.  Buy American made, no tariffs. I have zero issue with paying tariffs, personal spending or in our business.  If I don't want to pay...

Simple solution.  Buy American made, no tariffs. I have zero issue with paying tariffs, personal spending or in our business.  If I don't want to pay it, I don't buy it.  If it's reasonable, I buy it.  

Try and find an American-made helmet and get back to us.

Wandell wrote:

AND WHOS FAULT IS THAT?

It's no one's fault, it's simply that American companies are not able to compete with other overseas companies. That's free market capitalism. 

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Just want to mention that Renen and Canvas both make their gear in the USA in case anyone is looking to support gear brands making an effort to manufacture at home.

https://renenusa.com

https://canvasmx.com

 

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7/31/2025 2:15pm
SPYGUY wrote:
Just want to mention that Renen and Canvas both make their gear in the USA in case anyone is looking to support gear brands making an...

Just want to mention that Renen and Canvas both make their gear in the USA in case anyone is looking to support gear brands making an effort to manufacture at home.

https://renenusa.com

https://canvasmx.com

 

Will be interesting to see how their prices develop going forward. Because they can manufacture in the US but they're still likely getting 80+% of raw material from other countries and pay tariffs on those.

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SPYGUY wrote:
Just want to mention that Renen and Canvas both make their gear in the USA in case anyone is looking to support gear brands making an...

Just want to mention that Renen and Canvas both make their gear in the USA in case anyone is looking to support gear brands making an effort to manufacture at home.

https://renenusa.com

https://canvasmx.com

 

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7/31/2025 2:26pm
SPYGUY wrote:
Just want to mention that Renen and Canvas both make their gear in the USA in case anyone is looking to support gear brands making an...

Just want to mention that Renen and Canvas both make their gear in the USA in case anyone is looking to support gear brands making an effort to manufacture at home.

https://renenusa.com

https://canvasmx.com

 

Good point. Renen is made in the racing capital of the world - Indianapolis (actually the suburb of Brownsburg that contain most of the racing subcontractors).

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TbonesPop wrote:
Simple solution.  Buy American made, no tariffs. I have zero issue with paying tariffs, personal spending or in our business.  If I don't want to pay...

Simple solution.  Buy American made, no tariffs. I have zero issue with paying tariffs, personal spending or in our business.  If I don't want to pay it, I don't buy it.  If it's reasonable, I buy it.  

Mcflurry98 wrote:
Not all of the raw materials are sourced in the United States. So those materials still have to be imported. Even if they did source the...

Not all of the raw materials are sourced in the United States. So those materials still have to be imported. Even if they did source the materials domestically, the labor to produce the products will be substantially higher because Americans won't (and shouldn't) work for $1 an hour. All of these costs get passed to the consumer.

Companies aren't going to sell product with at zero profit. It absolutely blows my mind that people don't understand this.....

They are supposed to eat it 🤷‍♂️

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TbonesPop wrote:
Simple solution.  Buy American made, no tariffs. I have zero issue with paying tariffs, personal spending or in our business.  If I don't want to pay...

Simple solution.  Buy American made, no tariffs. I have zero issue with paying tariffs, personal spending or in our business.  If I don't want to pay it, I don't buy it.  If it's reasonable, I buy it.  

Try and find an American-made helmet and get back to us.

Wandell wrote:

AND WHOS FAULT IS THAT?

Greedy CEOs that used to make 5x the workers but now make over 100x the workers and even if the suck they still get a big payout to leave 

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I own a small business - www.asagiwear.com My sunglasses are made in China, last order I did I had to pay extra once it was shipped...

I own a small business - www.asagiwear.com 

My sunglasses are made in China, last order I did I had to pay extra once it was shipped, it was minimal cost, I have a order in now that should be shipping soon and will be curious to see how much I have to pay extra this time, hoping its not much, but there isnt much I can do about it, its my only choice for getting sunglasses made. 

So far my gear and gloves which are made in Pakistan have not been affected. ( Id really like to do it here in the usa or myself, but thats a huge investment I'm not even close to being ready for, plus the learning curve and figuring that out, on top of that I would have to retail my gear sets for considerbaly more ).  

So if you are looking for some light weight good fitting gear, for a great price with name and number sublimated into it, check me out, I will be having a limited edition run of gear coming soon as well. 

JazzyJJ wrote:
You need an option to sign up for a newsletter/discounts. I'm a purchaser, but I'm not going to buy right now and by the time I...

You need an option to sign up for a newsletter/discounts. I'm a purchaser, but I'm not going to buy right now and by the time I have a second to complete an order I will totally forget what the site/brand is called. 

Got that done today, I do my site myself and didn’t even realize I was able to add a pop up to do that, thanks! 

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I had preordered some gear, and the retailer had quoted me the original prices of the Alpinestars helmet and gear. For example, the helmet was 729...

I had preordered some gear, and the retailer had quoted me the original prices of the Alpinestars helmet and gear. For example, the helmet was 729. This was sent to retailers pre tariffs. The new price that came in, because of the import tariffs, was 839. This is the first time I’ve seen such a direct tax on consumers. Our sport mostly imports, and is expensive enough. I fear for companies who are already struggling post COVID. 

This helmet did not go up $100 due to tariffs….The cost to manufacture this helmet overseas is probably ~$50. They are using this as an excuse to gouge consumers. 

Inflation is down to 2.7% (from 7-9%) under the last administration. Tariffs are not raising prices like being claimed in this thread..

If prices were as rising due to tariffs inflation would be going up…

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American manufacturing shouldn’t have sold out but the federal government shouldn’t have waged war against manufacturing via the EPA, either. Manufacturing needs to come back to this Country. 

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I had preordered some gear, and the retailer had quoted me the original prices of the Alpinestars helmet and gear. For example, the helmet was 729...

I had preordered some gear, and the retailer had quoted me the original prices of the Alpinestars helmet and gear. For example, the helmet was 729. This was sent to retailers pre tariffs. The new price that came in, because of the import tariffs, was 839. This is the first time I’ve seen such a direct tax on consumers. Our sport mostly imports, and is expensive enough. I fear for companies who are already struggling post COVID. 

Brad460 wrote:
This helmet did not go up $100 due to tariffs….The cost to manufacture this helmet overseas is probably ~$50. They are using this as an excuse...

This helmet did not go up $100 due to tariffs….The cost to manufacture this helmet overseas is probably ~$50. They are using this as an excuse to gouge consumers. 

Inflation is down to 2.7% (from 7-9%) under the last administration. Tariffs are not raising prices like being claimed in this thread..

If prices were as rising due to tariffs inflation would be going up…

The tariffs are just now starting to hit.  Hold on to your butts.  Or maybe we will just TACO our way out of them again.  

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The tariffs are changing constantly. The whole industry is in this together, we've been through this before, and not that long ago... everyone is doing their best. Alpinestars didn't do a reactionary blanket increase on prices like most companies. They waited and went line by line, product by product to decide what they absolutely had to increase. It's all a matter of perspective on the issue. 

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