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7/29/2025 5:19pm

Again, you’re too stupid to reason with at all. You can’t even admit your cult leader lost in 2020. You’re pathetic. 

He's not the only that thinks trump is not perfect but still light years ahead of rubber stamp boy.

I’m guessing you also cannot tell me who won the 2020 election.

The guy that became president ? Am I close?

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He's not the only that thinks trump is not perfect but still light years ahead of rubber stamp boy.

I’m guessing you also cannot tell me who won the 2020 election.

The guy that became president ? Am I close?

Yes the one who became POTUS in 2021. Great job!

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I’m guessing you also cannot tell me who won the 2020 election.

The guy that became president ? Am I close?

Yes the one who became POTUS in 2021. Great job!

He did cut the track though Good thing the track officials weren’t watching. 

Deegs should be so lucky. 

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7/29/2025 5:39pm

The guy that became president ? Am I close?

Yes the one who became POTUS in 2021. Great job!

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He did cut the track though Good thing the track officials weren’t watching. 

Deegs should be so lucky. 

You are so fucking stupid and extremely deep in the cult. It’s amazing you even have enough brain cells to type on a keyboard. 

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7/29/2025 6:43pm Edited Date/Time 7/29/2025 6:58pm

I’m guessing you also cannot tell me who won the 2020 election.

Tell me why you think there was no election fraud in 2020.

Days have a question also. Do you think there was an Epstein cover up, and do you think Epstein killed himself, why or why not? This will have an impact on the first question.

Here’s a few numbers to consider

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7/29/2025 6:47pm

Like in his Corvette or something?

LungButter wrote:

Who woulda guessed you'd just have a lame deflection instead of answering a direct question.....

 

LB, you know we have been over this "ad nauseam" and I thought you were are the Trump pedo train now?

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7/29/2025 6:50pm
You’re welcome! Anytime you wanna be called a brain dead cult member, you just let me know. I got you. Now run along and be a...

You’re welcome! Anytime you wanna be called a brain dead cult member, you just let me know. I got you. Now run along and be a good little sheep. Parrot what NewsMax tells you to and drink that koolaid to protect your cult leader who is very clearly a sexual predator. 

Gworm wrote:

You’re the best!!!!!!

TeamGreen wrote:

Priceless entertainment, isn't he? 🤣

You Can Not Make This Shit Up! 

Ono hombre always makes me laugh; he thinks very highly of himself.

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7/29/2025 6:54pm

Again, you’re too stupid to reason with at all. You can’t even admit your cult leader lost in 2020. You’re pathetic. 

He's not the only that thinks trump is not perfect but still light years ahead of rubber stamp boy.

I’m guessing you also cannot tell me who won the 2020 election.

If they found those extra 6 million votes, the geezer got the idiot Kamala would have won in 2024.......what happened Homer?

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7/29/2025 6:55pm

Yes the one who became POTUS in 2021. Great job!

Gworm wrote:

He did cut the track though Good thing the track officials weren’t watching. 

Deegs should be so lucky. 

You are so fucking stupid and extremely deep in the cult. It’s amazing you even have enough brain cells to type on a keyboard. 

*reported*

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While that is true, there are certain things that are just observable facts. When some people refuse to acknowledge those things, we go from boring to...

While that is true, there are certain things that are just observable facts. When some people refuse to acknowledge those things, we go from boring to shaking our head in disbelief. Like this discussion, I gave the actual quote and the response is 

"I don't actually see what you're referring to."

LMFAO

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I think you got the quote wrong!!!!

I think you got the quote wrong!!!!

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Now I see what you’re talking about. I didn’t watch any videos and it’s something the anchor said on the air. I only looked at the written story, so it’s no wonder I didn’t  know what you referring to. I didn’t deny that they’d said it. I just hadn’t seen it. I certainly wasn’t  suggesting that you’d misrepresented it. “I don’t see it” is very different from “it never happened”. 

It was a boneheaded statement and there was no reason for it. I never denied that CNN says boneheaded things (and it’s just my luck that my example of something they get right contains a glaring example of one - I deserve to be laughed at in this case). I’ve criticized them many times in the past. They’re not the worst offenders. MSNBC strikes me as worse. Morning Joe is like nails on a chalkboard with Mika sounding little Helen Lovejoy from the Simpsons with her ridiculous faux moral indignation whenever they discuss Trump. But I’m sure they get some things right. Even just by sheer probability, if you say enough things some of them will be correct. And at the end of day, they’re humans, just like you and me, doing their best to make sense of the world. That might be overly generous but I can’t go through life assuming the worst of people with whom I disagree. We’ve disagreed here but I bet that if we met at a motocross and struck up a conversation we’d have a great time and each leave thinking “what a nice fellow”. That’s pretty much what always happens when I meet someone at a motocross track. 

If you think for yourself, using your own critical faculties, you’re not likely to disagree with everything someone else says, whoever they are. It seems like both the left and the right want to demonize the other side and demand strict adherence to their orthodoxy with no dissent permitted. Intelligent people shouldn’t be bound by such things. What I’m objecting to is this all or nothing thinking - which is what I saw in your comment about CNN. The world and the people that inhabit it are more nuanced than that. Remember, only a Sith deals in absolutes. 😛 

I think we’ve largely talked past each other than to each other in this conversation and I own my part in that. If you disagree with things I say, it’s okay (and that’s sincere). I have no problem with good faith disagreements. I may have been a bit pedantic as well -  I pay extremely close attention to details like the use of “some” vs “all”. I’m a bit of an odd duck and am used to people wondering what the heck I’m going on about (I wonder that myself sometimes). 

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7/29/2025 7:17pm

I’m guessing you also cannot tell me who won the 2020 election.

burn1986 wrote:
Tell me why you think there was no election fraud in 2020.Days have a question also. Do you think there was an Epstein cover up, and...

Tell me why you think there was no election fraud in 2020.

Days have a question also. Do you think there was an Epstein cover up, and do you think Epstein killed himself, why or why not? This will have an impact on the first question.

Here’s a few numbers to consider

😂😂😂. You are extremely fucking stupid too. All of you who can’t accept the 2020 results have 2 brain cells tops and aren’t worth anyone’s time trying to convince of anything. 

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7/29/2025 7:21pm

He's not the only that thinks trump is not perfect but still light years ahead of rubber stamp boy.

I’m guessing you also cannot tell me who won the 2020 election.

If they found those extra 6 million votes, the geezer got the idiot Kamala would have won in 2024.......what happened Homer?

Anyone here who thinks Biden didn’t win in 2020 is not worth my time for anything except to call them a fucking idiot. Which you clearly are. 

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7/29/2025 7:35pm Edited Date/Time 7/29/2025 7:37pm
😂😂😂. You are extremely fucking stupid too. All of you who can’t accept the 2020 results have 2 brain cells tops and aren’t worth anyone’s time...

😂😂😂. You are extremely fucking stupid too. All of you who can’t accept the 2020 results have 2 brain cells tops and aren’t worth anyone’s time trying to convince of anything. 

You’re the one that brought it up dude! We’ve moved on. So it happened. Yes it was a bad deal. Believe what you want. Who cares now? Why are you still on this?! What do you want us to say, “Oh you’re right bro. You got us man. Wow, what were we thinking?!” 

Are we gonna try and hammer out every govt scandal - Jan 6, Butler PA, JFK, all the Clinton stuff, past Obama stuff (some of that is going on atm) etc?

You know what, just take it. I’ll let you have the win. Now move on Gawd, some people

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😂😂😂. You are extremely fucking stupid too. All of you who can’t accept the 2020 results have 2 brain cells tops and aren’t worth anyone’s time...

😂😂😂. You are extremely fucking stupid too. All of you who can’t accept the 2020 results have 2 brain cells tops and aren’t worth anyone’s time trying to convince of anything. 

burn1986 wrote:
You’re the one that brought it up dude! We’ve moved on. So it happened. Yes it was a bad deal. Believe what you want. Who cares...

You’re the one that brought it up dude! We’ve moved on. So it happened. Yes it was a bad deal. Believe what you want. Who cares now? Why are you still on this?! What do you want us to say, “Oh you’re right bro. You got us man. Wow, what were we thinking?!” 

Are we gonna try and hammer out every govt scandal - Jan 6, Butler PA, JFK, all the Clinton stuff, past Obama stuff (some of that is going on atm) etc?

You know what, just take it. I’ll let you have the win. Now move on Gawd, some people

Like I said it’s a simple question to make sure anyone is worth discussing anything with. If they can’t answer it correctly, they are not in reality and not worth my time. Here let me try again. Who legitimately won the last five US Presidential Elections? I’ll go first. Obama, Obama, Trump, Biden, Trump.

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😂😂😂. You are extremely fucking stupid too. All of you who can’t accept the 2020 results have 2 brain cells tops and aren’t worth anyone’s time...

😂😂😂. You are extremely fucking stupid too. All of you who can’t accept the 2020 results have 2 brain cells tops and aren’t worth anyone’s time trying to convince of anything. 

burn1986 wrote:
You’re the one that brought it up dude! We’ve moved on. So it happened. Yes it was a bad deal. Believe what you want. Who cares...

You’re the one that brought it up dude! We’ve moved on. So it happened. Yes it was a bad deal. Believe what you want. Who cares now? Why are you still on this?! What do you want us to say, “Oh you’re right bro. You got us man. Wow, what were we thinking?!” 

Are we gonna try and hammer out every govt scandal - Jan 6, Butler PA, JFK, all the Clinton stuff, past Obama stuff (some of that is going on atm) etc?

You know what, just take it. I’ll let you have the win. Now move on Gawd, some people

Like I said it’s a simple question to make sure anyone is worth discussing anything with. If they can’t answer it correctly, they are not in...

Like I said it’s a simple question to make sure anyone is worth discussing anything with. If they can’t answer it correctly, they are not in reality and not worth my time. Here let me try again. Who legitimately won the last five US Presidential Elections? I’ll go first. Obama, Obama, Trump, Biden, Trump.

I guess we’re not worthy of your time. You carry on, crazy guy 😬 - Remember man, there’s help out there

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😂😂😂. You are extremely fucking stupid too. All of you who can’t accept the 2020 results have 2 brain cells tops and aren’t worth anyone’s time...

😂😂😂. You are extremely fucking stupid too. All of you who can’t accept the 2020 results have 2 brain cells tops and aren’t worth anyone’s time trying to convince of anything. 

burn1986 wrote:
You’re the one that brought it up dude! We’ve moved on. So it happened. Yes it was a bad deal. Believe what you want. Who cares...

You’re the one that brought it up dude! We’ve moved on. So it happened. Yes it was a bad deal. Believe what you want. Who cares now? Why are you still on this?! What do you want us to say, “Oh you’re right bro. You got us man. Wow, what were we thinking?!” 

Are we gonna try and hammer out every govt scandal - Jan 6, Butler PA, JFK, all the Clinton stuff, past Obama stuff (some of that is going on atm) etc?

You know what, just take it. I’ll let you have the win. Now move on Gawd, some people

Like I said it’s a simple question to make sure anyone is worth discussing anything with. If they can’t answer it correctly, they are not in...

Like I said it’s a simple question to make sure anyone is worth discussing anything with. If they can’t answer it correctly, they are not in reality and not worth my time. Here let me try again. Who legitimately won the last five US Presidential Elections? I’ll go first. Obama, Obama, Trump, Biden, Trump.

You mean win legitimately?

You’ve got me so confused, Dave. 

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burn1986 wrote:
You’re the one that brought it up dude! We’ve moved on. So it happened. Yes it was a bad deal. Believe what you want. Who cares...

You’re the one that brought it up dude! We’ve moved on. So it happened. Yes it was a bad deal. Believe what you want. Who cares now? Why are you still on this?! What do you want us to say, “Oh you’re right bro. You got us man. Wow, what were we thinking?!” 

Are we gonna try and hammer out every govt scandal - Jan 6, Butler PA, JFK, all the Clinton stuff, past Obama stuff (some of that is going on atm) etc?

You know what, just take it. I’ll let you have the win. Now move on Gawd, some people

Like I said it’s a simple question to make sure anyone is worth discussing anything with. If they can’t answer it correctly, they are not in...

Like I said it’s a simple question to make sure anyone is worth discussing anything with. If they can’t answer it correctly, they are not in reality and not worth my time. Here let me try again. Who legitimately won the last five US Presidential Elections? I’ll go first. Obama, Obama, Trump, Biden, Trump.

Gworm wrote:

You mean win legitimately?

You’ve got me so confused, Dave. 

Actually, I’m going to apologize, I won’t call you Dave anymore. 

I’m sorry to have pushed you so far. 

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burn1986 wrote:
You’re the one that brought it up dude! We’ve moved on. So it happened. Yes it was a bad deal. Believe what you want. Who cares...

You’re the one that brought it up dude! We’ve moved on. So it happened. Yes it was a bad deal. Believe what you want. Who cares now? Why are you still on this?! What do you want us to say, “Oh you’re right bro. You got us man. Wow, what were we thinking?!” 

Are we gonna try and hammer out every govt scandal - Jan 6, Butler PA, JFK, all the Clinton stuff, past Obama stuff (some of that is going on atm) etc?

You know what, just take it. I’ll let you have the win. Now move on Gawd, some people

Like I said it’s a simple question to make sure anyone is worth discussing anything with. If they can’t answer it correctly, they are not in...

Like I said it’s a simple question to make sure anyone is worth discussing anything with. If they can’t answer it correctly, they are not in reality and not worth my time. Here let me try again. Who legitimately won the last five US Presidential Elections? I’ll go first. Obama, Obama, Trump, Biden, Trump.

burn1986 wrote:

I guess we’re not worthy of your time. You carry on, crazy guy 😬 - Remember man, there’s help out there

Okay cult member. Be sure to drink that koolaid and be a good little sheep. Don’t ever admit your guy lost in 2020. Just like he wants you to do. Keep defending a sexual predator you’ve made to be your Jesus. 

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burn1986 wrote:
You’re the one that brought it up dude! We’ve moved on. So it happened. Yes it was a bad deal. Believe what you want. Who cares...

You’re the one that brought it up dude! We’ve moved on. So it happened. Yes it was a bad deal. Believe what you want. Who cares now? Why are you still on this?! What do you want us to say, “Oh you’re right bro. You got us man. Wow, what were we thinking?!” 

Are we gonna try and hammer out every govt scandal - Jan 6, Butler PA, JFK, all the Clinton stuff, past Obama stuff (some of that is going on atm) etc?

You know what, just take it. I’ll let you have the win. Now move on Gawd, some people

Like I said it’s a simple question to make sure anyone is worth discussing anything with. If they can’t answer it correctly, they are not in...

Like I said it’s a simple question to make sure anyone is worth discussing anything with. If they can’t answer it correctly, they are not in reality and not worth my time. Here let me try again. Who legitimately won the last five US Presidential Elections? I’ll go first. Obama, Obama, Trump, Biden, Trump.

Gworm wrote:

You mean win legitimately?

You’ve got me so confused, Dave. 

Oh look the cult member can’t admit his sexual predator cult leader lost in 2020. You need serious help. Keep defending this man with every fiber of your being! You’re being a good little boy. Do what NewsMax tells you and lap up that propaganda!

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Like I said it’s a simple question to make sure anyone is worth discussing anything with. If they can’t answer it correctly, they are not in...

Like I said it’s a simple question to make sure anyone is worth discussing anything with. If they can’t answer it correctly, they are not in reality and not worth my time. Here let me try again. Who legitimately won the last five US Presidential Elections? I’ll go first. Obama, Obama, Trump, Biden, Trump.

Gworm wrote:

You mean win legitimately?

You’ve got me so confused, Dave. 

Oh look the cult member can’t admit his sexual predator cult leader lost in 2020. You need serious help. Keep defending this man with every fiber...

Oh look the cult member can’t admit his sexual predator cult leader lost in 2020. You need serious help. Keep defending this man with every fiber of your being! You’re being a good little boy. Do what NewsMax tells you and lap up that propaganda!

You are unhinged. You seriously need to take a break or get some help. 

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We all ride moto (or did at one point). We aren't traditional by any sense of the word. We may disagree but no one in here is a sheep, black sheep maybe...

We aren't here to change each others minds, but to talk, listen, and open our own minds up (and talk some shit along the way). Some here try and trigger you, this is a lesson to learn within yourself.

As Cool Luke says, it's good to see the light, but don't be blinded by it. At the end of the day we're all a part of a unique group of misfits, malcontents if you will. And I love all you bastards for it, even if we feel very differently about some shit. 

I'd be willing to bet most here are genuinely good people to their people, out in the real world.

The track gets rough at times, but it's important to enjoy the ride along the way regardless. Your mind is a powerful thing, don't waste your fuel where it isn't meant to be burned.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. You goddamn gomers.

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T-MAC wrote:
We all ride moto (or did at one point). We aren't traditional by any sense of the word. We may disagree but no one in here...

We all ride moto (or did at one point). We aren't traditional by any sense of the word. We may disagree but no one in here is a sheep, black sheep maybe...

We aren't here to change each others minds, but to talk, listen, and open our own minds up (and talk some shit along the way). Some here try and trigger you, this is a lesson to learn within yourself.

As Cool Luke says, it's good to see the light, but don't be blinded by it. At the end of the day we're all a part of a unique group of misfits, malcontents if you will. And I love all you bastards for it, even if we feel very differently about some shit. 

I'd be willing to bet most here are genuinely good people to their people, out in the real world.

The track gets rough at times, but it's important to enjoy the ride along the way regardless. Your mind is a powerful thing, don't waste your fuel where it isn't meant to be burned.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. You goddamn gomers.

There’s hope for you, T-MAC


Well said. 

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Wow, manifestoboy got a bit pissy last night.

His mom's going to be pissed when she finds a few pf her white claws missing this morning. 

 

What an absolute buffoon.

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Labeling incentives and quotas as “mandates” is a large part of the problem this country is having with discourse.   I don’t think any president has...

Labeling incentives and quotas as “mandates” is a large part of the problem this country is having with discourse.   I don’t think any president has mandated folks to buy anything.  Could be wrong though.  

TheGreat wrote:

MAGA has been riled up by a non-existent EV mandate for 4+ years now

RichieW13 wrote:
California did have a mandate for 100% of all new car sales to be zero emissions by 2035.  Though the US Senate recently blocked that mandate...

California did have a mandate for 100% of all new car sales to be zero emissions by 2035.  Though the US Senate recently blocked that mandate, so we'll have to see how that goes.  Yes, that would have only applied to California, but California buys so many cars that manufacturers could base their national sales plan on what California law requires.

https://calmatters.org/environment/2025/05/california-electric-car-mand…

Thank you for proving my point for me.  I see once again MAGA only cares about "states rights" every now and then. 

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Thank you for proving my point for me.  I see once again MAGA only cares about "states rights" every now and then. 

Unless it goes against Fed initiatives, such as the Texas Dreamers Act I brought up a couple pages back. In this instance, it doesn't matter what the state wants, several decades bipartisan agreements be damned.

They seem to be cherry picking things, especially with states that have substantial pull. Gotta flex that Federal power and control. Granted I don't particularly agree with this EV mandate CA had. Most folks that need to commute to work couldn't afford a new EV. Most folks I know with EVs have a few other cars too, including big gas guzzling rigs.

Consistency is important. Which is what makes it hard for companies (and countries) to navigate this administrations efforts in a sensible way also.

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TheGreat wrote:

Thank you for proving my point for me.  I see once again MAGA only cares about "states rights" every now and then. 

T-MAC wrote:
Unless it goes against Fed initiatives, such as the Texas Dreamers Act I brought up a couple pages back. In this instance, it doesn't matter what...

Unless it goes against Fed initiatives, such as the Texas Dreamers Act I brought up a couple pages back. In this instance, it doesn't matter what the state wants, several decades bipartisan agreements be damned.

They seem to be cherry picking things, especially with states that have substantial pull. Gotta flex that Federal power and control. Granted I don't particularly agree with this EV mandate CA had. Most folks that need to commute to work couldn't afford a new EV. Most folks I know with EVs have a few other cars too, including big gas guzzling rigs.

Consistency is important. Which is what makes it hard for companies (and countries) to navigate this administrations efforts in a sensible way also.

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7/30/2025 6:32am Edited Date/Time 7/30/2025 6:40am

The difference consistency can make for a country's efforts... 

Imagine if we didn't flip flop policy every 4 years, costing US manufacturers billions of dollars. How do they recoup their costs, by selling cars, or getting bailed out by the FED on the backs of us.

China also does subsidize the hell out of things. 

EDIT - I designed and made a fancy anesthesiologist cart last year, and used really nice Vadania soft close drawer slides. I bought about 50k pairs for first pilot production run. The cost was less than $5 per pair. The raw material alone should cost more than that. They sell for $60 a pair over here. Granted I bought in quantities which helps, but the cost still does not make sense.

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The difference consistency can make for a country's efforts... Imagine if we didn't flip flop policy every 4 years, costing US manufacturers billions of dollars. How do...

The difference consistency can make for a country's efforts... 

Imagine if we didn't flip flop policy every 4 years, costing US manufacturers billions of dollars. How do they recoup their costs, by selling cars, or getting bailed out by the FED on the backs of us.

China also does subsidize the hell out of things. 

EDIT - I designed and made a fancy anesthesiologist cart last year, and used really nice Vadania soft close drawer slides. I bought about 50k pairs for first pilot production run. The cost was less than $5 per pair. The raw material alone should cost more than that. They sell for $60 a pair over here. Granted I bought in quantities which helps, but the cost still does not make sense.

Consistency and our current form of consumerism puts emphasis on small advancements/improvements on products that will generate more sales. Not what would be best as a whole/most efficient, cheapest. 

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soggy wrote:
Consistency and our current form of consumerism puts emphasis on small advancements/improvements on products that will generate more sales. Not what would be best as a...

Consistency and our current form of consumerism puts emphasis on small advancements/improvements on products that will generate more sales. Not what would be best as a whole/most efficient, cheapest. 

Very much agreed. YZ 250 is still competitive, as is the ancient RMZ...Us Americans need the latest and 'greatest ' always.

Most Americans get a new car every few years too.

We are great consumers, that's for sure.

EDIT - the problem here is our disposable income is being funneled up the food chain. And most folks are putting themselves in the hole to keep up with the Jones'. The illusion of success.

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TheGreat wrote:

MAGA has been riled up by a non-existent EV mandate for 4+ years now

RichieW13 wrote:
California did have a mandate for 100% of all new car sales to be zero emissions by 2035.  Though the US Senate recently blocked that mandate...

California did have a mandate for 100% of all new car sales to be zero emissions by 2035.  Though the US Senate recently blocked that mandate, so we'll have to see how that goes.  Yes, that would have only applied to California, but California buys so many cars that manufacturers could base their national sales plan on what California law requires.

https://calmatters.org/environment/2025/05/california-electric-car-mand…

TheGreat wrote:

Thank you for proving my point for me.  I see once again MAGA only cares about "states rights" every now and then. 

Does the state have the right to regulate this issue beyond the federal mandate? 

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