Italian resurgence

7/23/2025 11:05pm
wwdiii wrote:
Couple of years back give or take when my Beta 300 RX was new.  I was at Three Palms MX, Houston.  A vet rider walked up...

Couple of years back give or take when my Beta 300 RX was new.  I was at Three Palms MX, Houston.  A vet rider walked up.  I’d guess in his 50’s and asked if he could look at my Beta, I said sure.  He looked it over we talked, he said the Cylinder/top end looks Cagiva.  He Procded to explain how he was a factory Cagiva rider back in the day.  Told me all about Cagiva.  Wish I could remember what all he said, interesting guy to talk to.   Can’t recall his name, but I do recall he was flying around the track on a twin pipe Honda.  Fastest short fat guy I’ve ever seen ride.

I don’t recall much about Cagiva, or any of the other Italian brands that came and went.  But glad to see other brands getting in the sport.  I’d like to see Sherpa/Taco roll out an MX bike too.

That’s my friend Pete Sullivan-  He’s actually 64 yrs old.
Been riding/racing w/him most of my life.


Looking fwd to snagging the new Beta 350 myself!

7/24/2025 12:11am

Italians are great in design and engineering but seems to fail at some point with manufacturing AND thay are selling their companies to Chinese which sucks. I love Italian motorcycles herigate, wish well to all companies and hope to see more of their sick bikes around. 

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7/24/2025 12:30am

Always thought these Cagivas were cool. 1986 World 125 champion Dave Strijbos.

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7/24/2025 3:33am Edited Date/Time 7/24/2025 5:01am

Valenti, Tresoldi, Ancillotti...little italian rockets (80cc big wheel/adult size):

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7/24/2025 3:40am

They might need to work on tucking the silencers in a bit for MX and Enduro comapred to their SM modelM4 8680-02

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7/24/2025 1:56pm
36Wheeler wrote:
They might need to work on tucking the silencers in a bit for MX and Enduro comapred to their SM model

They might need to work on tucking the silencers in a bit for MX and Enduro comapred to their SM modelM4 8680-02

Reverse cylinder, so pipe packaging is more of a challenge (but then, you know about that!)

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11/4/2025 9:55pm
ksithumper wrote:
Beta, TM, Fantic, Ducati... now Vertemati! Launching MX and Enduro bikes for 2026. Likely release at the EICMA show in November this year. And yes, they will...

Beta, TM, Fantic, Ducati... now Vertemati! Launching MX and Enduro bikes for 2026. Likely release at the EICMA show in November this year. 

And yes, they will be gorgeous 😍.

 

Told ya 😉

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11/5/2025 11:14am
Nairb#70 wrote:

What is the situation regarding the former Cagiva/Husqvarna facility and operation?

wwdiii wrote:
Couple of years back give or take when my Beta 300 RX was new.  I was at Three Palms MX, Houston.  A vet rider walked up...

Couple of years back give or take when my Beta 300 RX was new.  I was at Three Palms MX, Houston.  A vet rider walked up.  I’d guess in his 50’s and asked if he could look at my Beta, I said sure.  He looked it over we talked, he said the Cylinder/top end looks Cagiva.  He Procded to explain how he was a factory Cagiva rider back in the day.  Told me all about Cagiva.  Wish I could remember what all he said, interesting guy to talk to.   Can’t recall his name, but I do recall he was flying around the track on a twin pipe Honda.  Fastest short fat guy I’ve ever seen ride.

I don’t recall much about Cagiva, or any of the other Italian brands that came and went.  But glad to see other brands getting in the sport.  I’d like to see Sherpa/Taco roll out an MX bike too.

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Around 1987, at the Highpoint National, I was pitted next to a "factory" Cagiva rider.  He didn't have a mechanic; the bike was obviously jetted way...

Around 1987, at the Highpoint National, I was pitted next to a "factory" Cagiva rider.  He didn't have a mechanic; the bike was obviously jetted way too rich, and he was frustrated - he said that he didn't know how to change jets in the carburetor.  I leaned the main one step, listened to it, leaned it a second step, and had him ride it, in a test area (not on the track), while I listened.  I dropped the needle one step, and had him ride it again.  It sounded good, so I put in a new plug, and had him do some wide-open runs, then checked the plug.  Everything looked/sounded right, and he went out to practice.  The bike ran fine, and he did ok, as I recall.  "Factory" support varied a lot on those days.  Guy Cooper received support, but traveled in (and sometimes lived in, I believe) a van, and did all of his own mechanical work - he was changing a piston in the hotel parking lot on Friday.  I asked if I could look at the cylinder (I was riding the same bike). He said he wasn't allowed to...  A few minutes later, he said he was going in to use the bathroom, and asked if I could watch his stuff.  "Sure - no problem."  He winked and said "But don't look at the cylinder!"  Those days were fun.  

I rode a "factory" Cagiva 125 once, in about 1983. It would practically stall in neutral until the RPMs got way up, then it would scream like A Formula 1 engine. It was too much for me!

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11/5/2025 11:25am

Not moto... but that italjet dragon 700 looks like crazyyy fun.... 

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