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jsanger211 7/17/2025 1:29pm
7/17/2025 1:29pm
El Capitan wrote:
So, are you saying there is cheating going on in professional motocross?I am SHOCKED——simply shocked! ML, in early and running tail cover with the tinfoil hat slam...

So, are you saying there is cheating going on in professional motocross?

I am SHOCKED——simply shocked! 

ML, in early and running tail cover with the tinfoil hat slam. This topic is verboten on the VIitals! 

LungButter wrote:

Ok then....

Fill us in on some theories of how they could be cheating that would lead to them beating the field so badly.

I thought El Capitan was being sarcastic. If that’s not the case it makes the comment ever funnier. 

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El Capitan 7/17/2025 1:45pm
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jsanger211 wrote:

I thought El Capitan was being sarcastic. If that’s not the case it makes the comment ever funnier. 

Neither Lawrence brother (nor Shimoda nor Hymas) needs to cheat. Honda doesn’t need to cheat. ML calling someone else a tin-foil hat wearing imbecile is funny as shit. Does cheating happen? Of course, but not when you already dominate. 

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CPR 7/17/2025 1:47pm
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I don’t know why Honda didn’t think of this cheating thing during that 20 year drought they had without a title?

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jsanger211 7/17/2025 1:57pm
7/17/2025 1:57pm
jsanger211 wrote:

I thought El Capitan was being sarcastic. If that’s not the case it makes the comment ever funnier. 

El Capitan wrote:
Neither Lawrence brother (nor Shimoda nor Hymas) needs to cheat. Honda doesn’t need to cheat. ML calling someone else a tin-foil hat wearing imbecile is funny...

Neither Lawrence brother (nor Shimoda nor Hymas) needs to cheat. Honda doesn’t need to cheat. ML calling someone else a tin-foil hat wearing imbecile is funny as shit. Does cheating happen? Of course, but not when you already dominate. 

I couldn’t agree more with you. You can tell Chance and Joe are benefiting from being around and learning for the Lawrence’s. You can tell they are all working hard and care. ML’s comment was perfectly timed haha. 

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kiwifan 7/17/2025 3:53pm
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I think Jett has the smoothness/race craft of JMB and the fitness/strength of RC... kind of a super David Bailey 

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Alex814 7/17/2025 4:02pm
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kage173 wrote:
Pulp MX is already on this. He's running a major test at Washougal. AMA, HRC, the whole industry is going to be there. It's very scientific...

Pulp MX is already on this. He's running a major test at Washougal. AMA, HRC, the whole industry is going to be there. It's very scientific and standardized testing. The only question is first turn or no first turn.

He should have gotten Ferrandis and Hunter to swap bikes and drop the gate 5 times. Then we would actually see what the factory Honda is worth on the start. 

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plowboy 7/17/2025 4:31pm
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I don't understand why you guys are pussy footin' around the truth.  Its as plain as the nose on yer faces...Honda is obviously using alien technology.  They found the tech under the big pyramid in Egypt.  The one that leads to the Lizard people realm at the center of our hollow earth.  The entrance in Antarctica is still heavily guarded by the Nazi's.  The remaining entrance in Atlantis remains hidden...the search continues.

Jett and Hunter are undeniably alien and now that have access to their otherworldly tech...our terrestrial born riders are doomed...doomed I tell ya.  Happy Thursday ya bag a bastards.🙃

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jsanger211 7/17/2025 4:49pm
7/17/2025 4:49pm
plowboy wrote:
I don't understand why you guys are pussy footin' around the truth.  Its as plain as the nose on yer faces...Honda is obviously using alien technology...

I don't understand why you guys are pussy footin' around the truth.  Its as plain as the nose on yer faces...Honda is obviously using alien technology.  They found the tech under the big pyramid in Egypt.  The one that leads to the Lizard people realm at the center of our hollow earth.  The entrance in Antarctica is still heavily guarded by the Nazi's.  The remaining entrance in Atlantis remains hidden...the search continues.

Jett and Hunter are undeniably alien and now that have access to their otherworldly tech...our terrestrial born riders are doomed...doomed I tell ya.  Happy Thursday ya bag a bastards.🙃

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markus8v_s3 7/17/2025 6:27pm
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plowboy wrote:
I don't understand why you guys are pussy footin' around the truth.  Its as plain as the nose on yer faces...Honda is obviously using alien technology...

I don't understand why you guys are pussy footin' around the truth.  Its as plain as the nose on yer faces...Honda is obviously using alien technology.  They found the tech under the big pyramid in Egypt.  The one that leads to the Lizard people realm at the center of our hollow earth.  The entrance in Antarctica is still heavily guarded by the Nazi's.  The remaining entrance in Atlantis remains hidden...the search continues.

Jett and Hunter are undeniably alien and now that have access to their otherworldly tech...our terrestrial born riders are doomed...doomed I tell ya.  Happy Thursday ya bag a bastards.🙃

It all makes so much sense now. There was a rumor in the Red Bud pits that Honda’s president was there to hand deliver a batch of quantum flux stators that adds somewhere in the ballpark of 50hp and enables wireless all wheel drive, makes total sense now considering how well the boys pulled up Mt Martin. 

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Last2Stroke 7/17/2025 6:38pm
7/17/2025 6:38pm
8tensolutions wrote:
Dumbest shit I have read on here all year and that's a tough list.  What would they be cheating with??  It's 80-90% rider and 450's are...

Dumbest shit I have read on here all year and that's a tough list.  What would they be cheating with??  It's 80-90% rider and 450's are already basically detuned from what they are capable of.  

Chris_Buehler wrote:
This! To not single out the OP, I'm seeing more of this sentiment in other places like Facebook. "Honda is cheating!" Ok, how? They running big...

This! To not single out the OP, I'm seeing more of this sentiment in other places like Facebook. "Honda is cheating!" Ok, how? They running big bores? Because we all know the more horsepower the better right? Aware us to how they could cheat. 

LittleBubbyScub wrote:
Small electric motor in front hub? People were busted in road cycling for it. Examined bike with infrared camera and saw heat buildup in odd places.I...

Small electric motor in front hub? People were busted in road cycling for it. Examined bike with infrared camera and saw heat buildup in odd places.

I don't think Honda or any other teams are cheating, though. Back years ago when Sebastian Loeb was dominating the  FIA world rally championship they analyzed his driving style and determined he simply used his brakes less than anyone else and kept momentum up. Smooth equals fast and uses less mental and physical energy. 

Small electric motor in front hub would not help Jett, his front wheel doesn't spend much time on the ground when he's accelerating.

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motorick5052 7/17/2025 6:42pm
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plowboy wrote:
I don't understand why you guys are pussy footin' around the truth.  Its as plain as the nose on yer faces...Honda is obviously using alien technology...

I don't understand why you guys are pussy footin' around the truth.  Its as plain as the nose on yer faces...Honda is obviously using alien technology.  They found the tech under the big pyramid in Egypt.  The one that leads to the Lizard people realm at the center of our hollow earth.  The entrance in Antarctica is still heavily guarded by the Nazi's.  The remaining entrance in Atlantis remains hidden...the search continues.

Jett and Hunter are undeniably alien and now that have access to their otherworldly tech...our terrestrial born riders are doomed...doomed I tell ya.  Happy Thursday ya bag a bastards.🙃

But…how can the world be hollow?? Everyone knows the damn world is FLAT! Sheeesh

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971_Fan 7/17/2025 8:13pm
7/17/2025 8:13pm Edited Date/Time 7/18/2025 12:36am
971_Fan wrote:
I wouldn't go so far as to accuse any specific team of cheating, but at the top level of any sport cheating happens. If a team...

I wouldn't go so far as to accuse any specific team of cheating, but at the top level of any sport cheating happens. If a team found a sneaky way to gain an advantage, they'd use it if they thought they had a good chance of getting away with it. That's not tin foil hat shit (interesting that was the first response), it's a fact borne out by the history of sports. 

Motocross is no exception and it is not the squeaky clean sport a lot of you want it to be. 

LungButter wrote:
Ok then....that seems plausible for sure.So fill us in on some theories of how they could be cheating that would lead to them beating the field...

Ok then....that seems plausible for sure.

So fill us in on some theories of how they could be cheating that would lead to them beating the field so badly.

Not sure what you mean by "them"?  I am not implicating any specific team or rider.  But as far as cheating, it could be any possible number of things, such as doping or equipment manipulation. Cheating is used to gain an unfair advantage and happens  at the top level of sports.  It's happened in F1, boxing, cycling, baseball, weight lifting, track and field, skiing, and football.  What makes some of you think moto is virgin material, free from sin?

 

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Herr Lich 7/17/2025 11:29pm
7/17/2025 11:29pm
milamcreek wrote:
This is going to start something, but with the recent finishes from Hunter I'm calling BS. Honda is up to something and should be looked at. Reason: Jett...

This is going to start something, but with the recent finishes from Hunter I'm calling BS. 

Honda is up to something and should be looked at. 

Reason: Jett smoking fast, Hunter fast. But for them to leave the field behind by over a minute in four rounds bullshit. No one does that. Eli 2015 over the field but golden rod was closing the gap before Eli torpedoed in the ground. They're increasing weekly, no way Hunter is pulling this off without help. I cannot believe red flags aren't going up everywhere in the paddock. 

All I'm saying is something is fishy and it's beginning to stink 

You've been smoking a hell of a cocktail - Meth, PCP, acid, chronic, crack...

Do you use bits of your tinfoil hat to freebase off? 

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