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I dont think you give Anderson enough credit for how good he was in mx but nobody really does. He might not care as much now but he was a great outdoor rider. He was just unfortunate to race prime Eli Tomac, Roczen, and Marv was no slouch. In '22 when Chase and Eli were pushing each other to insane levels of speed, Anderson was the best of the rest a lot of times.
Jett is a freak of nature. RC would still beat him for 10 years if they started at the same time.
From my memory...Lechien hated practicing and testing. Sometimes he'd show and sometimes he wouldn't. He was basically...have my bike ready on race day...I'll race, then I'll leave.
Fair enough. I forgot about Ando in ‘22. I just rewatched Washougal ‘22 on YouTube and he was badass.
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Whenever one guy dominates this discussion always comes up. One way to test the validity of this hypothesis is to ask yourself what would things look like if Jett wasn’t there?
Cooper Webb would be a four time SX champ and considered among the all time SX greats. Chase maybe has another outdoor title and is still on the all powerful Honda team. Tomac has come back and still in the title hunt. Hunter has multiple race wins, maybe another outdoor 250 title and on his way to greatness. Roczen is 2023 SMX champ. Justin Cooper has a 250 title and made a strong transition to 450 with multiple moto wins and knocking on the door for overalls.
There would be ongoing discussion about the depth of the field and how the older champions are still at the top of their game and battling it out with the newer guys.
RC is the only guy in the chat of talents compared to Jett. For Jett to beat RC for 'all time' records he will need to stay healthy which is not a given. I did not think RC's win totals would ever be touched, I now have little doubt Jett can exceed it if he stays reasonably healthy and chooses to keep going long enough.
We need a video overlay showing riders pace around the track. I'd like to see where he is faster. He is so smooth you sure can't tell by watching him.
I totally agree,dude. I got flamed for bringing that up in a different thread the other day. It’s a completely valid point. Don’t let these guys race 250s forever.
Don’t do Stew like that. If you are speaking on talent, Stew had more than RC. Likely more than anyone in the history of the sport. Jett is not jumping the wall jump at ‘11 Daytona in his lifetime. No one is.
I remember one of his teammates at Honda telling a funny story about him. They were at the test rack that was evidently right next to the highway one day and Ron says that he isn't feeling well and headed home. Not too long after that Ronnie goes by on the highway pulling his new ski boat and honking his horn lol!
James only new one way to ride and we loved him for it. Jett seems to understand all he has to do is finish ahead of the second place guy. Jett also possesses the ability to put his head down and come back from damn near anywhere in the pack. It is amazing. Id love to see Jett and RC face off in outdoors and Jett face off with James indoors.
Jett is a more complete package than James. As were others like Dungey and RV. But, Jett would never touch James indoors, and that’s not even worth discussing. Prime RV, Reed, Dungey, and RC couldn’t touch peak James indoors in heads up racing. It’s clear that Jett’s specialty is outdoors. And I do think you’ll get what you are looking for outdoors, or at least some consolation, because Deegs and Jett has the potential to be the greatest rivalry the sport has ever seen and it’s going to go on for a long time.
Deegan's far, far away from Jett as far as technique and precision go... OK, he's got grit, but whenever he's under pressure, he still makes A LOT of mistakes...
This will go well.
I once suggested that McGrath was given a gift when he entered the premier class- facing just one former champion (Stanton) who was well in to the twilight of his career.
But no, that conversation didn’t go well either.😂
Cooper Webb on Jett Lawrence: "He will be the best to ever do it, in my personal opinion, when it’s all said and done"
https://racerxonline.com/2025/07/24/webb-on-lawrence-he-will-be-the-best-to-ever-do-it-in-my-personal-opinion-when-its-said-and-done
https://racerxonline.com/2025/07/22/jett-lawrences-insane-450-pro-motocross-results-to-date
I actually love that thought, it’s seriously hard to think of any other rider in history who would try that line at Daytona, even Ricky would probably draw the line in the sand. Maybe JMB would pick up on that and make it look easy but that’s seriously one of the only names that comes to mind
James was/still is awesome, but that jump was sketchy and he paid the price for it. James could do ridiculous things on a bike and must have had massive balls but sometimes that bit him from a championship point of view.
Overall talent is completely different that overall results. I think Cooper Webb has maximized his results with the talent he has. Race Craft (I hate that term) has allowed him to be overly competitive in SX. Just about all these guys have speed, it is what they do with it that we see. RC also maximized his results along with upped his game continually as new opponents arrived. Be interesting to see how Deegan measures up when he gets on a 450. Great to be able to see this on video.
"Tuck the front, son". James didn't pull that outta nowhere. How may times did we see him throw it away by doing just that. That's the price for the insane speed and things he could do on a bike. If he could stay on two wheels...he was gonna win.
Jett is a new, better Stewart.
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I agree with this to a point, it’s the perfect storm in name only. Outside of Sexton and Hunter everyone of those guys is past there prime or not on Jett’s level anyways.
That being said he is the undisputed best rider in the world and it’s scary to think of what he’s gonna do in a few years. There is a serious gap in talent if one or two guys don’t work out. As long as Jett stays healthy he should past at least 100 combined wins without breaking a sweat.
If you include SMX races he’s already at 49 career wins. Not yet 22 years old.
Injuries have cost so many riders so many wins. Jett would probably be over 60 by now if not for injuries. You gotta stay healthy. Look at Roczen at the start of 17, he was ready to take over the sport for good and we all know what happened. Hannah and RJ were both taken out in their prime. Jett is no different he needs to stack seasons together.
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