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enketchum wrote:

Coca Cola corporate has already ducked out of that one... Trump made it up 

enketchum wrote:

Yes, that's not an America first policy. Sugar cane is produced in China, Brazil, and Mexico. Corn syrup is American made.... 

Well it's a good job Trump hasn't announced massive arbitrary tariffs on those countries...

 

BTW now Trump (edit: technically Bondi, but we all know Bondi is just an apendage of Trump) has fired Maurine Comey who prosecuted both Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Funnily enough she also happens to be the daughter of ex FBI Director James Comey. I'm certain her termination was totally warranted and above board and in no way political or vindictive.

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There's government price controls on sugar prices and tariffs on sugar imports. The price controls increased 35% with the big beautiful bill last week. This is...

There's government price controls on sugar prices and tariffs on sugar imports. The price controls increased 35% with the big beautiful bill last week. This is why high fructose corn syrup has replaced sugar in so many foods over the last 20 years, communism.

Not communism. It’s called capitalism 

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This whole Epstein thing was a Democrat hoax sting operation.

We are now being told.

We really should have known...

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enketchum wrote:

Yes, that's not an America first policy. Sugar cane is produced in China, Brazil, and Mexico. Corn syrup is American made.... 

Well it's a good job Trump hasn't announced massive arbitrary tariffs on those countries... BTW now Trump (edit: technically Bondi, but we all know Bondi is just...

Well it's a good job Trump hasn't announced massive arbitrary tariffs on those countries...

 

BTW now Trump (edit: technically Bondi, but we all know Bondi is just an apendage of Trump) has fired Maurine Comey who prosecuted both Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Funnily enough she also happens to be the daughter of ex FBI Director James Comey. I'm certain her termination was totally warranted and above board and in no way political or vindictive.

Maureen Comey was also the prosecutor in the Diddy trial.

She also made sure certain evidence stayed suppressed in the Maxwell trial.

I’m certain there was no political influence at all in the coincidence of her being the lead prosecutor in these three cases and their ultimate results…🤔

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enketchum wrote:

Yes, that's not an America first policy. Sugar cane is produced in China, Brazil, and Mexico. Corn syrup is American made.... 

Well it's a good job Trump hasn't announced massive arbitrary tariffs on those countries... BTW now Trump (edit: technically Bondi, but we all know Bondi is just...

Well it's a good job Trump hasn't announced massive arbitrary tariffs on those countries...

 

BTW now Trump (edit: technically Bondi, but we all know Bondi is just an apendage of Trump) has fired Maurine Comey who prosecuted both Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Funnily enough she also happens to be the daughter of ex FBI Director James Comey. I'm certain her termination was totally warranted and above board and in no way political or vindictive.

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Maureen Comey was also the prosecutor in the Diddy trial.She also made sure certain evidence stayed suppressed in the Maxwell trial.I’m certain there was no political...

Maureen Comey was also the prosecutor in the Diddy trial.

She also made sure certain evidence stayed suppressed in the Maxwell trial.

I’m certain there was no political influence at all in the coincidence of her being the lead prosecutor in these three cases and their ultimate results…🤔

Eh? Epstein died in jail before she had a chance to prosecute him, Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years in prison and Diddy was found guilty of two counts relating to prostitution.

What evidence did she suppress during the Maxwell trial? Are you sure you're not confused with the fact that she argued against releasing documents that might embarrass or cause harassment of Epsteins victims? Throughout the haphazard drama around the release of the Epstein files Pam Bondi has consistently said she would not disclose anything potentially damaging to the victims either. 

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Guys! Don’t worry! We are going to get Mexican Coca-Cola!!!  MAGA!!

EVH4Ever wrote:

Hey! That’s some good shit!

Something we agree on!!
IMG 1907 2

Something we agree on!!

Nothing special about that stuff.  Its all a myth.

 

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Hey! That’s some good shit!

Something we agree on!!
IMG 1907 2

Something we agree on!!

JAFO92 wrote:

Nothing special about that stuff.  Its all a myth.

 

Buzzkill....🤣

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I wasn’t overly convinced that Trump was involved in the underage and trafficking exploits of Epstein before, even though I thought it was possible. His recent actions to try to minimize or even deny Epstein’s horrific crimes make it seem a bit more than possible, leaning towards probable. 

I’m also pretty certain that Epstein didn’t keep a ‘list’ of clients who participated in the criminal activity, but that there are/were records that were used to compile a list of probable ‘clients’ of those services. My guess is that was what Musk was referring to when he rage posted about Trump being in ‘the files’.  Obviously there’s probably a lot more names on ‘the list’ from every point on the political spectrum, and likely the ones that we haven’t heard about are probably the most involved. 

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I wasn’t overly convinced that Trump was involved in the underage and trafficking exploits of Epstein before, even though I thought it was possible. His recent...

I wasn’t overly convinced that Trump was involved in the underage and trafficking exploits of Epstein before, even though I thought it was possible. His recent actions to try to minimize or even deny Epstein’s horrific crimes make it seem a bit more than possible, leaning towards probable. 

I’m also pretty certain that Epstein didn’t keep a ‘list’ of clients who participated in the criminal activity, but that there are/were records that were used to compile a list of probable ‘clients’ of those services. My guess is that was what Musk was referring to when he rage posted about Trump being in ‘the files’.  Obviously there’s probably a lot more names on ‘the list’ from every point on the political spectrum, and likely the ones that we haven’t heard about are probably the most involved. 

I doubt trump had anything to do with Epstein other then being a possible client. 
 

He’s just protecting Israel, his employer. But maybe he was a client? Which is why he’s being such a good employee 😂


There’s a lot of evidence to suggest Epstein was Mossad. At the very least him and Maxwell were EXTREMELY connected to Israel. 

I don’t give a shit about the drug users (the clients)

I don’t give a shit about Epstein (the drug dealer)

I care about going after the Zionist scum (the drug supplier) behind all this and much much more. 

The international banking cartel needs to be stopped. They take food off of your plate. They take money out of your pocket and extract profit off of your labor! And they make the world a more dangerous and less prosperous place for our children and future generations! Scum of the earth. 

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Trump is getting a lot of pushback from both sides, I think they will have to end up releasing some sort of documents just to try and show some "transparency".

But everyone will be either outraged or disappointed (or both) because no way they are releasing a list of actual "names". Any documents will be heavily redacted.

The "guilt by association" with listing names, without any sort of criminal charges (or due process, trial, convictions) would slander anyone named.

Those that are actually guilty would have to be charged, go to trial, and convicted before they could name names of specific predators.

Anyone named prior to any charges, evidence, and courtroom trial, I would think would have grounds to sue for defamation if they were just named as being involved. 

But supposedly Epstein liked to videotape the encounters, I would think that would be some pretty irrefutable evidence to convict anyone involved. But it's not like the DOJ is going to release those tapes or even say they exist without compromising their case against anyone involved.

I doubt anyone ever gets charged, at this point they (both sides) just want it to go away. Too much exposure for too many powerful people. 

Ironic that Ghislaine Maxwell can get sentenced to 20 years in prison, without anyone else being guilty of anything. 

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AZ35 wrote:
Trump is getting a lot of pushback from both sides, I think they will have to end up releasing some sort of documents just to try...

Trump is getting a lot of pushback from both sides, I think they will have to end up releasing some sort of documents just to try and show some "transparency".

But everyone will be either outraged or disappointed (or both) because no way they are releasing a list of actual "names". Any documents will be heavily redacted.

The "guilt by association" with listing names, without any sort of criminal charges (or due process, trial, convictions) would slander anyone named.

Those that are actually guilty would have to be charged, go to trial, and convicted before they could name names of specific predators.

Anyone named prior to any charges, evidence, and courtroom trial, I would think would have grounds to sue for defamation if they were just named as being involved. 

But supposedly Epstein liked to videotape the encounters, I would think that would be some pretty irrefutable evidence to convict anyone involved. But it's not like the DOJ is going to release those tapes or even say they exist without compromising their case against anyone involved.

I doubt anyone ever gets charged, at this point they (both sides) just want it to go away. Too much exposure for too many powerful people. 

Ironic that Ghislaine Maxwell can get sentenced to 20 years in prison, without anyone else being guilty of anything. 

The "guilt by association" with listing names, without any sort of criminal charges (or due process, trial, convictions) would slander anyone named.

Those that are actually guilty would have to be charged, go to trial, and convicted before they could name names of specific predators.

Anyone named prior to any charges, evidence, and courtroom trial, I would think would have grounds to sue for defamation if they were just named as being involved.

Which is precisely why the actions of everyone involved in this expose nonsense was silly and ill-thought out. Trump, Bongino, Kash etc have all been exploiting conspiracy theories for personal gain for years, now they're caught in a conspiracy of their own making and millions of MAGA supporters realise, perhaps for the first time, that they've been played.

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You guys know this basically all started as an attack on the Clintons by the Right, right?

There's tons of court documents already released with lots of people listed in them including like a dozen phone numbers for trump, and trump on the flight logs of Epstein's plane. The Donald also used Epstein's plane to fly to campaign stops less than 1 year ago. Howard Lutnick the current secretary of commerce was Epstein's neighbor and bought his townhouse after he died.

The line that it's a Democrat hoax is ridiculous given the origin of the evidence. 

But I wouldn't expect those with weak minds to put 2 and 2 together.

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I sorta believe that if your name is in the Epstein files you likely knew about the shit that was going down. I just want justice for the victims. And for those involved to face the consequences. For those worried about their reputation or lives being upended, idk maybe stop for a moment and think about what it’s like to be a child or anyone for that matter to be raped once or multiple times. I think I’d rather be dead. Those victims lives have certainly been fucking ruined beyond repair. There’s plenty of friendly fire and casualties in war. They say well that’s just part of war… It would be silly to think that the human trafficking isn’t a type of war. 

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Buzzkill....🤣

Dont shoot the messenger.  🙃

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I sorta believe that if your name is in the Epstein files you likely knew about the shit that was going down. I just want justice...

I sorta believe that if your name is in the Epstein files you likely knew about the shit that was going down. I just want justice for the victims. And for those involved to face the consequences. For those worried about their reputation or lives being upended, idk maybe stop for a moment and think about what it’s like to be a child or anyone for that matter to be raped once or multiple times. I think I’d rather be dead. Those victims lives have certainly been fucking ruined beyond repair. There’s plenty of friendly fire and casualties in war. They say well that’s just part of war… It would be silly to think that the human trafficking isn’t a type of war. 

Those who have their names show up are welcome to explain the nature of their relationship with epstein and deny any wrongdoing. The public interest in transparency outweighs the bad press some innocent people might get. The president's name is all over the case and it hasn't seemed to hurt him. 

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I sorta believe that if your name is in the Epstein files you likely knew about the shit that was going down. I just want justice...

I sorta believe that if your name is in the Epstein files you likely knew about the shit that was going down. I just want justice for the victims. And for those involved to face the consequences. For those worried about their reputation or lives being upended, idk maybe stop for a moment and think about what it’s like to be a child or anyone for that matter to be raped once or multiple times. I think I’d rather be dead. Those victims lives have certainly been fucking ruined beyond repair. There’s plenty of friendly fire and casualties in war. They say well that’s just part of war… It would be silly to think that the human trafficking isn’t a type of war. 

truck wrote:
Those who have their names show up are welcome to explain the nature of their relationship with epstein and deny any wrongdoing. The public interest in...

Those who have their names show up are welcome to explain the nature of their relationship with epstein and deny any wrongdoing. The public interest in transparency outweighs the bad press some innocent people might get. The president's name is all over the case and it hasn't seemed to hurt him. 

Exactly. You smarter dudes can always say things better than I. I’m just a vehicle repairman!

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7/17/2025 11:18am

Chris Tucker explained on a podcast recently "Yeah I was on Epstein's jet. I didn't even know the guy and I was going on a humanitarian trip with Bill Clinton..." so that tells me that as has been mentioned, there's lotsa names on there that have done nothing wrong.

All that said (and I'm a big Trump supporter) this is looking more and more destructive for him. He's on the list, more and more people are admitting this, and I fear there's some nefarious shit in there that Trump at least knew about. And that could bring the whole show down...the torches are being lit. Only curious part is if he IS in there, why in the world would the Dems not put this out there years ago? That tells me that odds are Clinton/Obama/Hillary etc are in it too so it's one helluva game of playing chicken with this entire fiasco.

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Exactly. You smarter dudes can always say things better than I. I’m just a vehicle repairman!

What type of vehicles do you repair?

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Exactly. You smarter dudes can always say things better than I. I’m just a vehicle repairman!

EVH4Ever wrote:

What type of vehicles do you repair?

Class 8 trucks and some rv repair since I’m a dealer for ATC toy haulers. 

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Class 8 trucks and some rv repair since I’m a dealer for ATC toy haulers. 

Very cool👍 That takes some skills. 

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I would like to prevent pedophiles from continuing to pedophiles. Creating more and more victims.

 

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AZ35 wrote:
Trump is getting a lot of pushback from both sides, I think they will have to end up releasing some sort of documents just to try...

Trump is getting a lot of pushback from both sides, I think they will have to end up releasing some sort of documents just to try and show some "transparency".

But everyone will be either outraged or disappointed (or both) because no way they are releasing a list of actual "names". Any documents will be heavily redacted.

The "guilt by association" with listing names, without any sort of criminal charges (or due process, trial, convictions) would slander anyone named.

Those that are actually guilty would have to be charged, go to trial, and convicted before they could name names of specific predators.

Anyone named prior to any charges, evidence, and courtroom trial, I would think would have grounds to sue for defamation if they were just named as being involved. 

But supposedly Epstein liked to videotape the encounters, I would think that would be some pretty irrefutable evidence to convict anyone involved. But it's not like the DOJ is going to release those tapes or even say they exist without compromising their case against anyone involved.

I doubt anyone ever gets charged, at this point they (both sides) just want it to go away. Too much exposure for too many powerful people. 

Ironic that Ghislaine Maxwell can get sentenced to 20 years in prison, without anyone else being guilty of anything. 

“Ironic that Ghislaine Maxwell can get sentenced to 20 years in prison, without anyone else being guilty of anything.”

I don’t understand why people keep saying things like this. Whatever else she did or didn’t do, she brought under aged girls to Epstein for “massages” that turned sexual. That’s been proven. So there’s nothing odd or “ironic” about her being in jail for 20 years. Even if not another single thing happened, she’s exactly where she deserves to be. 

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AZ35 wrote:
Trump is getting a lot of pushback from both sides, I think they will have to end up releasing some sort of documents just to try...

Trump is getting a lot of pushback from both sides, I think they will have to end up releasing some sort of documents just to try and show some "transparency".

But everyone will be either outraged or disappointed (or both) because no way they are releasing a list of actual "names". Any documents will be heavily redacted.

The "guilt by association" with listing names, without any sort of criminal charges (or due process, trial, convictions) would slander anyone named.

Those that are actually guilty would have to be charged, go to trial, and convicted before they could name names of specific predators.

Anyone named prior to any charges, evidence, and courtroom trial, I would think would have grounds to sue for defamation if they were just named as being involved. 

But supposedly Epstein liked to videotape the encounters, I would think that would be some pretty irrefutable evidence to convict anyone involved. But it's not like the DOJ is going to release those tapes or even say they exist without compromising their case against anyone involved.

I doubt anyone ever gets charged, at this point they (both sides) just want it to go away. Too much exposure for too many powerful people. 

Ironic that Ghislaine Maxwell can get sentenced to 20 years in prison, without anyone else being guilty of anything. 

MPJC wrote:
“Ironic that Ghislaine Maxwell can get sentenced to 20 years in prison, without anyone else being guilty of anything.”I don’t understand why people keep saying things...

“Ironic that Ghislaine Maxwell can get sentenced to 20 years in prison, without anyone else being guilty of anything.”

I don’t understand why people keep saying things like this. Whatever else she did or didn’t do, she brought under aged girls to Epstein for “massages” that turned sexual. That’s been proven. So there’s nothing odd or “ironic” about her being in jail for 20 years. Even if not another single thing happened, she’s exactly where she deserves to be. 

Exactly. She was convicted of crimes she was charged with, not crimes she's been accused of in the public square. 

She was charged with procuring girls (under age and otherwise) for Epstein's use, not for providing girls for a pedophilia ring. Maybe she wasn't charged with that because there is a huge cover-up or maybe she wasn't charged because there is no evidence. 

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mvd61 wrote:
I sorta believe that if your name is in the Epstein files you likely knew about the shit that was going down. I just want justice...

I sorta believe that if your name is in the Epstein files you likely knew about the shit that was going down. I just want justice for the victims. And for those involved to face the consequences. For those worried about their reputation or lives being upended, idk maybe stop for a moment and think about what it’s like to be a child or anyone for that matter to be raped once or multiple times. I think I’d rather be dead. Those victims lives have certainly been fucking ruined beyond repair. There’s plenty of friendly fire and casualties in war. They say well that’s just part of war… It would be silly to think that the human trafficking isn’t a type of war. 

truck wrote:
Those who have their names show up are welcome to explain the nature of their relationship with epstein and deny any wrongdoing. The public interest in...

Those who have their names show up are welcome to explain the nature of their relationship with epstein and deny any wrongdoing. The public interest in transparency outweighs the bad press some innocent people might get. The president's name is all over the case and it hasn't seemed to hurt him. 

That’s essentially “guilty until proven innocent”.  Which is why a list cannot be released, as anyone on the list is by default forced to prove they did not participate in criminal activity.  If you’ve even been pulled onto the carpet due to “guilt by association”, you would appreciate the possible consequences in releasing names without vetting the facts. 

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That’s essentially “guilty until proven innocent”.  Which is why a list cannot be released, as anyone on the list is by default forced to prove they...

That’s essentially “guilty until proven innocent”.  Which is why a list cannot be released, as anyone on the list is by default forced to prove they did not participate in criminal activity.  If you’ve even been pulled onto the carpet due to “guilt by association”, you would appreciate the possible consequences in releasing names without vetting the facts. 

Ok, then why didn't all these minion politicians use that kind of common sense for the last decade?

Why have all these losers told us they want to and will release the list if the reason they can't release it is so obvious?

 

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Who knows, maybe they are investigating and looking for more evidence then just having a name on a list so they can bring charges later to certain people they think they can convict.

Like has been said by others, just releasing names without trying to convict them will look like slander and could bring lawsuits, lots of them for many millions of dollars.

Yeah, I don't know man.

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LoudLove wrote:
That’s essentially “guilty until proven innocent”.  Which is why a list cannot be released, as anyone on the list is by default forced to prove they...

That’s essentially “guilty until proven innocent”.  Which is why a list cannot be released, as anyone on the list is by default forced to prove they did not participate in criminal activity.  If you’ve even been pulled onto the carpet due to “guilt by association”, you would appreciate the possible consequences in releasing names without vetting the facts. 

LungButter wrote:
Ok, then why didn't all these minion politicians use that kind of common sense for the last decade?Why have all these losers told us they want...

Ok, then why didn't all these minion politicians use that kind of common sense for the last decade?

Why have all these losers told us they want to and will release the list if the reason they can't release it is so obvious?

 

It almost sounds like they’ve figured out that the electorate is too lazy to try to understand things themselves and all they need to do is influence the masses to feel victimized by their opponents…..

Maybe. 

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mvd61 wrote:
I sorta believe that if your name is in the Epstein files you likely knew about the shit that was going down. I just want justice...

I sorta believe that if your name is in the Epstein files you likely knew about the shit that was going down. I just want justice for the victims. And for those involved to face the consequences. For those worried about their reputation or lives being upended, idk maybe stop for a moment and think about what it’s like to be a child or anyone for that matter to be raped once or multiple times. I think I’d rather be dead. Those victims lives have certainly been fucking ruined beyond repair. There’s plenty of friendly fire and casualties in war. They say well that’s just part of war… It would be silly to think that the human trafficking isn’t a type of war. 

truck wrote:
Those who have their names show up are welcome to explain the nature of their relationship with epstein and deny any wrongdoing. The public interest in...

Those who have their names show up are welcome to explain the nature of their relationship with epstein and deny any wrongdoing. The public interest in transparency outweighs the bad press some innocent people might get. The president's name is all over the case and it hasn't seemed to hurt him. 

LoudLove wrote:
That’s essentially “guilty until proven innocent”.  Which is why a list cannot be released, as anyone on the list is by default forced to prove they...

That’s essentially “guilty until proven innocent”.  Which is why a list cannot be released, as anyone on the list is by default forced to prove they did not participate in criminal activity.  If you’ve even been pulled onto the carpet due to “guilt by association”, you would appreciate the possible consequences in releasing names without vetting the facts. 

This just isn't true. We already know of several people closely associated with epstein including the current president and they're all doing just fine. 

I really don't understand this argument at all? There's no right to privacy here. Releasing information gathered in the course of an investigation isn't an accusation of anything. Even if it were, trials happen all the time in the public eye and people deal with the consequences of that information being public even if they're found not guilty. 

Innocent until proven guilty isn't the standard I'm obliged to apply to who I do business with or what movies I'll go see. If someone is so closely tied to epstein that it would make me look at them differently then I'd like to know that even if there isn't enough evidence to convict them of a crime. That isn't a violation of the person's rights, it's just common sense. 

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Chris Tucker explained on a podcast recently "Yeah I was on Epstein's jet. I didn't even know the guy and I was going on a humanitarian...

Chris Tucker explained on a podcast recently "Yeah I was on Epstein's jet. I didn't even know the guy and I was going on a humanitarian trip with Bill Clinton..." so that tells me that as has been mentioned, there's lotsa names on there that have done nothing wrong.

All that said (and I'm a big Trump supporter) this is looking more and more destructive for him. He's on the list, more and more people are admitting this, and I fear there's some nefarious shit in there that Trump at least knew about. And that could bring the whole show down...the torches are being lit. Only curious part is if he IS in there, why in the world would the Dems not put this out there years ago? That tells me that odds are Clinton/Obama/Hillary etc are in it too so it's one helluva game of playing chicken with this entire fiasco.

See I call bullshit here again on the 1st part. These flight logs aren't to nowhere right? Would there not be record of where you landed? 

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