Is it worth it to go to a training facility?

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I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a week? My goal is eventually lorrettas. I already ride and train 2-3 times a week. 


Thinking about Speed factory/Hostel Mx here in Indiana. Or even possibly somewhere down south during the winter. I wish I can go for longer but I have a full time job and married lol.

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El_Rayo wrote:
I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a...

I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a week? My goal is eventually lorrettas. I already ride and train 2-3 times a week. 


Thinking about Speed factory/Hostel Mx here in Indiana. Or even possibly somewhere down south during the winter. I wish I can go for longer but I have a full time job and married lol.

Your question is entirely reasonable and comes down to one question from an over-all stand point:

 Can you afford it? 

Also, alternatives would be…

Working with a local riding coach/trainer on the weekends/Saturdays for the summer…or other training options and times that work for you. 

An important point to make while we’re talking about these things…There’s an official organization for Motocross coaches here in the USA…

https://usmca.org/

There are allllll sorts of people that call themselves “coaches” and I see them at tracks allllll over where they have there riders cutting into an “on/off” the track in all sorts of stupid and unsafe places while the rest of us are riding our sessions. And they all get talked to or in the case of the more arrogant…dealt with as necessary by the track management. Been there, seen that, dealt with it…soooooo not cool. So, get a legit coach.

Good luck!

Manny 

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El_Rayo wrote:
I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a...

I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a week? My goal is eventually lorrettas. I already ride and train 2-3 times a week. 


Thinking about Speed factory/Hostel Mx here in Indiana. Or even possibly somewhere down south during the winter. I wish I can go for longer but I have a full time job and married lol.

TeamGreen wrote:
Your question is entirely reasonable and comes down to one question from an over-all stand point: Can you afford it? Also, alternatives would be…Working with a local riding...

Your question is entirely reasonable and comes down to one question from an over-all stand point:

 Can you afford it? 

Also, alternatives would be…

Working with a local riding coach/trainer on the weekends/Saturdays for the summer…or other training options and times that work for you. 

An important point to make while we’re talking about these things…There’s an official organization for Motocross coaches here in the USA…

https://usmca.org/

There are allllll sorts of people that call themselves “coaches” and I see them at tracks allllll over where they have there riders cutting into an “on/off” the track in all sorts of stupid and unsafe places while the rest of us are riding our sessions. And they all get talked to or in the case of the more arrogant…dealt with as necessary by the track management. Been there, seen that, dealt with it…soooooo not cool. So, get a legit coach.

Good luck!

Manny 

I can afford it, I’m just not sure if it’s worth the money if only for one week or not or what to expect. I remember using that website you shared last year but couldn’t find anyone near or local to me, but I’ll look again! Thanks 

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6/21/2025 10:01am Edited Date/Time 6/21/2025 10:02am
El_Rayo wrote:
I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a...

I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a week? My goal is eventually lorrettas. I already ride and train 2-3 times a week. 


Thinking about Speed factory/Hostel Mx here in Indiana. Or even possibly somewhere down south during the winter. I wish I can go for longer but I have a full time job and married lol.

TeamGreen wrote:
Your question is entirely reasonable and comes down to one question from an over-all stand point: Can you afford it? Also, alternatives would be…Working with a local riding...

Your question is entirely reasonable and comes down to one question from an over-all stand point:

 Can you afford it? 

Also, alternatives would be…

Working with a local riding coach/trainer on the weekends/Saturdays for the summer…or other training options and times that work for you. 

An important point to make while we’re talking about these things…There’s an official organization for Motocross coaches here in the USA…

https://usmca.org/

There are allllll sorts of people that call themselves “coaches” and I see them at tracks allllll over where they have there riders cutting into an “on/off” the track in all sorts of stupid and unsafe places while the rest of us are riding our sessions. And they all get talked to or in the case of the more arrogant…dealt with as necessary by the track management. Been there, seen that, dealt with it…soooooo not cool. So, get a legit coach.

Good luck!

Manny 

El_Rayo wrote:
I can afford it, I’m just not sure if it’s worth the money if only for one week or not or what to expect. I remember...

I can afford it, I’m just not sure if it’s worth the money if only for one week or not or what to expect. I remember using that website you shared last year but couldn’t find anyone near or local to me, but I’ll look again! Thanks 

Reach out to USMCA and ask them for your closest options…they may have someone that’s not listed yet.

Whatever you do, have fun and good luck. 

6/21/2025 10:10am

Maybe try to find a local pro, setup weekly sessions at a local track and work corner speed. The more ruts the better. Everyone pretty much jumps the same, it’s what you do between the jumps that will get you to Loretta’s 

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6/21/2025 11:14am
El_Rayo wrote:
I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a...

I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a week? My goal is eventually lorrettas. I already ride and train 2-3 times a week. 


Thinking about Speed factory/Hostel Mx here in Indiana. Or even possibly somewhere down south during the winter. I wish I can go for longer but I have a full time job and married lol.

Worth every red penny, buy as much as you can. Race for progress. 

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6/21/2025 11:38am Edited Date/Time 6/21/2025 11:40am

lol 10000000% no.  Ride and actually practice technique then race.   I guarantee you’ll get faster.  

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6/21/2025 12:09pm

If you have to ask this, the answer is ‘No’. 

You’re welcome. 

All joking aside, seriously, personally assessing your riders potential,  know whether this investment is money well spent. Be honest with yourself.

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6/21/2025 12:11pm

No find someone local who will get to know you. 

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6/21/2025 12:13pm
El_Rayo wrote:
I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a...

I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a week? My goal is eventually lorrettas. I already ride and train 2-3 times a week. 


Thinking about Speed factory/Hostel Mx here in Indiana. Or even possibly somewhere down south during the winter. I wish I can go for longer but I have a full time job and married lol.

DaveNoones wrote:

Worth every red penny, buy as much as you can. Race for progress. 

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6/21/2025 2:04pm
El_Rayo wrote:
I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a...

I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a week? My goal is eventually lorrettas. I already ride and train 2-3 times a week. 


Thinking about Speed factory/Hostel Mx here in Indiana. Or even possibly somewhere down south during the winter. I wish I can go for longer but I have a full time job and married lol.

A week away camping and enjoying it everyday is awesome. If the money is no issue you will love it - do it! Its a holiday away from the grind of work and doing something you love and getting better - If it is with a top facility with a legit trainer riding coach who can actually ride you will notice a huge improvement in your riding.

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6/21/2025 5:31pm

 Cant hurt. Any training is better than none 

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6/21/2025 10:09pm

When the answers are an emphatic no, I’d like to see the poster give their relevant negative experience with time at a training facility and their results.

Same sort of applies to an emphatic yes, although I think the yes value proposition is pretty clear. 

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6/22/2025 10:11am

If I was you I would try with a local trainer once a week for a longer period of time.

Go with someone that is really focuses on technique! It’s fine to do drills all day at the beginning.

Also really being able to apply what the trainer teaches you is key!

So many times you feel good on the day with the trainer because he is holding you accountable then come race day and you forget everything and don’t squeeze your bike enough, drag rear brake too much, don’t push on your outside peg and such. 

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6/22/2025 10:41am
El_Rayo wrote:
I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a...

I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a week? My goal is eventually lorrettas. I already ride and train 2-3 times a week. 


Thinking about Speed factory/Hostel Mx here in Indiana. Or even possibly somewhere down south during the winter. I wish I can go for longer but I have a full time job and married lol.

You're in Indiana. You have a lot of the top XC guys here in the state along with IXCR, MWXC and so on. Come hang out at the races and make a few friends. The skills you are going to acquire in the woods will transfer over and help you out a lot. My 2 cents is to not get a MX trainer per ser but sign up for something like Troll Training, and get yourself in top shape. Then the speed will come pretty easy if you just ride and race. 

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6/22/2025 11:39am

Shit yes go for it, there are basically no training camps in the rest of the world, all us overseas guys would jump at the chance if we lived in the US

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6/22/2025 1:03pm
El_Rayo wrote:
I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a...

I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a week? My goal is eventually lorrettas. I already ride and train 2-3 times a week. 


Thinking about Speed factory/Hostel Mx here in Indiana. Or even possibly somewhere down south during the winter. I wish I can go for longer but I have a full time job and married lol.

Marty1028 wrote:
You're in Indiana. You have a lot of the top XC guys here in the state along with IXCR, MWXC and so on. Come hang out...

You're in Indiana. You have a lot of the top XC guys here in the state along with IXCR, MWXC and so on. Come hang out at the races and make a few friends. The skills you are going to acquire in the woods will transfer over and help you out a lot. My 2 cents is to not get a MX trainer per ser but sign up for something like Troll Training, and get yourself in top shape. Then the speed will come pretty easy if you just ride and race. 

This x2. Once I started racing woods, everything else became easy. Especially if you are a jumper. Racing for 2hrs in the woods will teach you how to ride real quick.

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6/22/2025 2:20pm
El_Rayo wrote:
I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a...

I’m 23, a mid pack C rider. But want to lock in more. Is it worth it to go to a training facility for just a week? My goal is eventually lorrettas. I already ride and train 2-3 times a week. 


Thinking about Speed factory/Hostel Mx here in Indiana. Or even possibly somewhere down south during the winter. I wish I can go for longer but I have a full time job and married lol.

Back in 1977/1978 I saved all my money so I could go to the Suzuki school of motocross at Carlsbad and it was worth every penny, it will be fun and you will learn some stuff.  

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romain524 wrote:
If I was you I would try with a local trainer once a week for a longer period of time.Go with someone that is really focuses...

If I was you I would try with a local trainer once a week for a longer period of time.

Go with someone that is really focuses on technique! It’s fine to do drills all day at the beginning.

Also really being able to apply what the trainer teaches you is key!

So many times you feel good on the day with the trainer because he is holding you accountable then come race day and you forget everything and don’t squeeze your bike enough, drag rear brake too much, don’t push on your outside peg and such. 

I think that this is probably wise advice. I remember talking to some old ski instructors/coaches who swore that it was far better to have 6 weekly sessions than to have 6 consecutive days of sessions for most people. For those at the highest level, daily made sense because of the fitness aspect, but they were committing to it for much longer than a single week. 

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Go riding with someone that’s a lot faster than you and that will help your learning curve

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6/22/2025 7:46pm

A week at training facility seems like a fun summer camp type activity. Will you drop 10 seconds off your lap times after a week? No.  Will you enjoy every second riding, learning, and having fun?  Absolutely. 

I would treat it as a fun experience, not as a job. 

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6/23/2025 12:51pm

My son was in your shoes a number of years back.  I sent him for a week.  A week eventually turned into a few months.  His entire goal was to make it to Loretta's in C.  In my opinion, any training helps.  With that said, a week really won't help you that much.  Said differently, you're not going from mid-pack C class to winning C (or qualifying for Loretta's) with 1 week of training.  It really builds on itself.  Doing it won't hurt you but if you do, I'd take others advice and see if you can line someone up locally afterwards to continue to work with you on a regular basis.  You can ride 2-3x / week but if you're just repeating the same bad habits, you'll have a difficult time getting faster.  

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6/23/2025 3:38pm

gate drops are simply the best go racing to go faster

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No and yes.  I don't think one week will make you better for the money you will pay unless it is a place like JWTF, MTF or GPF that have at least two tracks and a turn track plus more than one coach training to break up the group into smaller ones.   

As some have stated, it is good to find a local pro that is getting into training and get one on one time so you can be better critiqued on what you are doing wrong. The short vids that AJ and moto academy put out on body position, standing into the turn, when to twist the throttle out of the turn are good to watch over and over until it is stuck in memory because a lot of what they talk about and show is the exact same things we go over and over during my once a week session I have at Club57. Repetition is key to make it a permanent change in your riding habit. 

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Preston412 wrote:
No and yes.  I don't think one week will make you better for the money you will pay unless it is a place like JWTF, MTF...

No and yes.  I don't think one week will make you better for the money you will pay unless it is a place like JWTF, MTF or GPF that have at least two tracks and a turn track plus more than one coach training to break up the group into smaller ones.   

As some have stated, it is good to find a local pro that is getting into training and get one on one time so you can be better critiqued on what you are doing wrong. The short vids that AJ and moto academy put out on body position, standing into the turn, when to twist the throttle out of the turn are good to watch over and over until it is stuck in memory because a lot of what they talk about and show is the exact same things we go over and over during my once a week session I have at Club57. Repetition is key to make it a permanent change in your riding habit. 

This except replace the clown AJ with Tyler livesay and MXFactory 

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Speed rubs off. Training and being in shape are great, but riding with faster people over time is how you get better.

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6/23/2025 8:49pm
Preston412 wrote:
No and yes.  I don't think one week will make you better for the money you will pay unless it is a place like JWTF, MTF...

No and yes.  I don't think one week will make you better for the money you will pay unless it is a place like JWTF, MTF or GPF that have at least two tracks and a turn track plus more than one coach training to break up the group into smaller ones.   

As some have stated, it is good to find a local pro that is getting into training and get one on one time so you can be better critiqued on what you are doing wrong. The short vids that AJ and moto academy put out on body position, standing into the turn, when to twist the throttle out of the turn are good to watch over and over until it is stuck in memory because a lot of what they talk about and show is the exact same things we go over and over during my once a week session I have at Club57. Repetition is key to make it a permanent change in your riding habit. 

Repetition drills r in every sport just like body position .  #1 thing grippy pegs , bars, etc in a position that allows you to get into perfect body positions.  My biggest thing is getting my legs stronger once I do .  My speed goes up for multiple laps vs 1or 2.   Make a rule until you do 4 laps at 60% with perfect body position.  You can’t ride at 80%.  Once you accomplish that .  Now push every inch of the track. Never leave the track on a bad lap.  C class riders at LL dominated on minis .  I don’t think 1 week at a camp any 15th place rider gets a 5th.  Get in shape the perfect body position you achieved.  Goes out the window when your tired.  If my legs - thighs get tired I stop crouching . And stand straight up to give them a rest . Then mistakes happen trying to hold a fast pace  because I,m too tall on the bike , - I hv it too far away .  I rode with a kid that won 125 c skipped b & raced 125a.  We rode a deep sand track  wo pass , slam each other .  That was good for when your tired keep going & get him . Made it easier to go fast .  Old ALli sports vids r probably the best to learn techniques . 

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6/23/2025 8:54pm

No

6/23/2025 9:09pm

Was talking to my dad about how better off we'd have been with access to something like Youtube back in the day.  There were riding technique videos back then but they were seemingly ancient and incompressible to a 15 year old.  You don't NEED these camps with the amount of stacked infos on youtube to pick from, especially at 23, but you potentially would miss out on legit compounded small takes they can throw at you endlessly per lap at a camp. If you can afford it you should go for sure. 

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6/23/2025 9:26pm

Yes, two reasons you'll see what's required secondly if you don't you won't have regret you didn't try.

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6/24/2025 7:04am

I truly believe crossing over and racing off-road as well as MX is mutually beneficial. 

The more gate drops the better. There is no practice like racing. 

Work on your technique and the speed will come. 

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