Stem cells eh?

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groggylbc wrote:
its absolutely crazy that the right wing conservatives think that stem cell research is bad!!
jimmie wrote:


Matt, I wish you all the best.

I hope you can regain some or all that you lost.

Keep us informed buddy.
Retards.
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9/18/2010 4:56pm
Matt, from the title I thought you were heading to Canada for stem cell procedure!

Good luck with zee germans. I'm definitely interested to know the results.
Also, if I can ask here, what lingering affects are you having still?
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9/18/2010 4:57pm
Good luck man, will be thinking of you and checking on updates. I really hope it works out for you.
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9/18/2010 5:04pm
Good luck Matt, and please keep us updated.

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9/18/2010 5:45pm Edited Date/Time 9/18/2010 5:47pm
groggylbc wrote:
its absolutely crazy that the right wing conservatives think that stem cell research is bad!!
The right wing conservatives are the ones pushing this type of stem cell therapy. It's called ADULT stem cell treatment.

Best wishes, Matt. Sorry about the guy trying to hijack your thread.
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9/18/2010 6:18pm
Sending Prayers for your healing Matt. I'm all for this type of stem cell procedure. Please keep us informed on how it's going. In detail if you can. Many of us are extremely interested and hopeful.
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9/18/2010 9:45pm
Good luck Matt... Looking forward to the updates!!!
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9/18/2010 10:06pm
mate i had no idea about your injury and am sorry to hear about it

and yeah I would absolutely love to hear any news about any improvements
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9/18/2010 10:28pm
Good Luck Matt! Would love to hear the updates. I have been considering the same procedure for the last year for my daughter. How did you go about picking your doc? What would the time frame before you would start seeing results?- Roger
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9/19/2010 4:36am
I've known Matt for a while and can say nothing but good things about the guy.

Matt, I wish you the best and look forward to your updates slim.
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We've had 4 of our patients go to China, Germany, Costa Rica and TJ for procedures.
Each one of them have had various outcomes from very little to increased bladder function/sensation depending on level of injury.

The girl that went to Costa Rica is doing a fund raiser and going back again.

Good luck Matt...
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9/19/2010 6:58am
good luck and i hope you have a good time in my country
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9/19/2010 10:35am
groggylbc wrote:
its absolutely crazy that the right wing conservatives think that stem cell research is bad!!
jimmie wrote:


Matt, I wish you all the best.

I hope you can regain some or all that you lost.

Keep us informed buddy.
Madmax31 wrote:
Retards.
Wow. A guy reaches out to a bunch of you for support on a risky procedure that could very well change his life, and all you can do is let your own selfish opinions and agendas lead you to sabotage this thread and turn it into a political debate. Pretty F#@%ed up. Matt's well-being is very relevant to this part of the forum... your political debate is not, take it over to non-moto if you want to have a pissing contest.

Best of Luck Matt. It takes a brave person to do what you're doing and I hope that your surgery and recovery goes extremely well. Keep everyone updated on your progress and development into the near future.
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9/19/2010 5:22pm
Wishing you the very best, Matt. Please keep us posted!
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My well wishes, and prayers going out to ya Matt. I'm excited to hear how it all works.

Do you have a time-line laid out yet? (Travel dates, surgery dates, etc...)
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9/19/2010 5:51pm
Good luck Matt!
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This is very exciting stuff. Theres a family in my town that are doing fundraising so that they can send there 8 year old daughter who has spina bifida (sorry) to Germany as well. Despite what you might think this procedure is not available in Canada.

Good luck and God bless.
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Good luck Matt
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Very cool. We all are dying for some progress in this field!
9/19/2010 7:19pm
Good luck Matt.....what is your exact in injury? I know you broke your back but to what extent? Viel Glueck im Deutschland.....die Krankenschwesteren da sind schoen! Turbo
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9/19/2010 8:25pm
Matt, I take it you are at XCell??
Hope everything goes well for you and you get the improvement your looking for.
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9/20/2010 12:47am
824 Dad wrote:
Matt, I take it you are at XCell??
Hope everything goes well for you and you get the improvement your looking for.
Yup I am at Xcell. I've been waiting and waiting, and waiting some more for someone in the US to do something. And I keep hearing the same thing from the same doctors, its either "Oh you've made so much recovery why would you want to get better?" or "Well, just wait, next year we will have something new".

I've basically given up on all of the medical care in the US. Its a sad state really.
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9/20/2010 9:24am
groggylbc wrote:
its absolutely crazy that the right wing conservatives think that stem cell research is bad!!
Nielsen277 wrote:
EMBRYONIC. Look it up.
Exactly. Adult stem cells have been used in more than 100 different treatments. Embryonic, little to none at all. So why the interest interest in embryonic? The cells and treatment can be patented and the patient will likely require anti-rejection drugs for the rest of their life. Adult stem are yours, a company cannot own them and you will not reject them (and you won't have to purchase the pharma's drugs forever).

What's it all come down to? Money, of course. The $$ come from owning the tech, not doing the procedure.

Anyone remember that Dr. that was annihilated by his peers for suggesting that ulcers were caused by bacteria and could be cured with a simple anti-biotic? Glaxo went ballistic thinking of how much Zantac sales they would lose (was once biggest selling prescrip in the world)...
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9/20/2010 10:29am
824 Dad wrote:
Matt, I take it you are at XCell??
Hope everything goes well for you and you get the improvement your looking for.
Matt414 wrote:
Yup I am at Xcell. I've been waiting and waiting, and waiting some more for someone in the US to do something. And I keep hearing...
Yup I am at Xcell. I've been waiting and waiting, and waiting some more for someone in the US to do something. And I keep hearing the same thing from the same doctors, its either "Oh you've made so much recovery why would you want to get better?" or "Well, just wait, next year we will have something new".

I've basically given up on all of the medical care in the US. Its a sad state really.
Good luck Matt and thanks for taking time to let us in on what you are doing.


On the treatment side, this isn't one of the treatments that would have been restricted from government spending...I get that.

Is there another reason they aren't doing this in the US? Is it because the way experimental treatments are handled in the US (very restrictive)?
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9/20/2010 11:09am
jimmie wrote:


Matt, I wish you all the best.

I hope you can regain some or all that you lost.

Keep us informed buddy.
Some folks feel that creating a human life, only to destroy it for "parts" is immoral. Does that really sound unkind or bad?

That's not an issue even on the table for current research. And if I'm reading Matt's post correctly they're going to use adult stem cells from his own body, so it's clearly not an issue.

Anyone want to read a pretty good article on a complex issue, here: HERE


Matt, good luck.
9/20/2010 11:23am
Good luck! I've looked into it for myself. what level are you?

keep us updated
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9/20/2010 11:28am
Again, thanks everyone!

Just to clear a couple things real quick.

There is tons of misconception when it comes to stem cells and research, especially in the US. There has never been a ban on stem cell research in the US. There has been issues with bans and federal funding. Not the actual research, just who pays for it. And no, people aren't just getting pregnant, having an abortion and using the cells. It doesn't work that way. There are hundreds of thousands of abortions every year in the US alone, and all the cells are tossed out. Why not use them for something useful? But, yet the religious right in this country has its own issues with reading comprehension skills.

To be honest though, I don't really care about fetal cell research. It has shown tons of promise, but far from anything viable in the near future. Adult stem cells have shown to be easier to work with and less side affects, chance of tumor risk etc.

The procedure I am having is adult cells. My own cells from my own bone marrow.

The bottom line is pretty simple though. If anyone really thinks there is a "cure all" coming for spinal cord injury, cancer or any other disease really, I envy your ability to look at the bright side of life, but you're rather naive on how the world really works and who runs things.
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824 Dad wrote:
Matt, I take it you are at XCell??
Hope everything goes well for you and you get the improvement your looking for.
Matt414 wrote:
Yup I am at Xcell. I've been waiting and waiting, and waiting some more for someone in the US to do something. And I keep hearing...
Yup I am at Xcell. I've been waiting and waiting, and waiting some more for someone in the US to do something. And I keep hearing the same thing from the same doctors, its either "Oh you've made so much recovery why would you want to get better?" or "Well, just wait, next year we will have something new".

I've basically given up on all of the medical care in the US. Its a sad state really.
txmxer wrote:
Good luck Matt and thanks for taking time to let us in on what you are doing. On the treatment side, this isn't one of the...
Good luck Matt and thanks for taking time to let us in on what you are doing.


On the treatment side, this isn't one of the treatments that would have been restricted from government spending...I get that.

Is there another reason they aren't doing this in the US? Is it because the way experimental treatments are handled in the US (very restrictive)?
There is a doc in the US doing a similar surgery. As of now its under FDA Phase I clinical trial. I do not fall under their inclusion criteria. I am too far post injury. But to be honest, I probably would have come over here either way. I feel more comfortable with european doctors over americans for the most part.

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