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I think this debacle is definitely having an impact on their sales. They released some new goggles without "EKS" branding on them. Just the model "Lucid."
I wonder why? The Bud Light treatment works.
I don't agree on anything you fill this thread with.
Tracks better start taking responsibility. Letting small bikes run with big, slow and fast riders mixed. Tracks that wouldn't pass a proper security review in a region that is applying, well, just common sense.
For being the land of lawsuits, many tracks run like shit when it comes to all above.
Stop bitching about lawsuits when that opportunity exists. Many, if not all, could have been prevented if it was taken seriously and proactive instead of reactive from track owners view.
And yes, I'm part of running a track, and have ridden on both west and east coast tracks as well as plenty of European ones.
I'll take the down votes, just tired of all the bitching and crying.
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You're probably not wrong about most of what you said but pretty much none of what you just said is relevant to the situation being discussed in this thread.
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I don't care if eks wants to spend thier money on advertising. If we don't buy the product just them wasting thier money.
I actually prefer ridge line Steve over this new trt Steve.
Their name wouldn't have to be anywhere near the "Inc."
This happened to someone I know that was having the same problems.
Can you haul a dirt bike in a Prius? I commend you on that.
"how they handled the lawsuits" ... you might be on to something there. Remember this lawsuit from RT was filed and settled years ago and only came about once the NDA was violated.
LACR's social posts after it came out probably didn't help their cause either.
This is all just a theory and not saying this is right or wrong but perhaps it's a reason they are not able to re-open and find new insurance.
Looks like the industry shill from Vurb decided to delete his posts.
*Had to Google the fella to see who he was, my hunch was right. So easy to spot the industry shills, they love to act like they are better than the rest of us.
He takes good pictures. He ran a raffle for a good cause. I didn’t win any of the major prizes but I did win a t-shirt. I never received it, asked him once and said he would get it out and never did. It was only a t-shirt so no big deal, hope the people that won the real prizes got their stuff…
I actually deleted my post because it was clearly taken out of context. I wasn't taking either side. I was just reading a lot of these comments, on both sides of the fence. People act like they know everything all the time. ON BOTH SIDES. I don't hide my identity. I never have. I am not a warrior behind a keyboard. And I 100% do not think I am better than anyone. If you knew me as a person. You'd know that.
Hey, I'm not sure who you are, but yes, I do run raffles, it was most likely one to get a kid a new dirt bike who was on a worn out one. I do the "every kid deserves a dirt bike" raffles. I apologize that you never got your shirt. I did send everything out. I'm assuming it was an AP shirt during the first ever raffle I did, and I got all of those way late and It might have been missed. I have no issues refunding you your money, please shoot me a message on IG or FB with your Venmo or Pay Pal and I'll get you squared up
Jason made it right, thanks
I just don't get people in the industry saying we don't know both side or the whole story. Steve said the same thing on twitter when I talked shit on his goggles of choice. Yes, it is a choice. Rich made a statement. The facility made a statement. You can look at the berm. What's this secret we are missing?
No secret they care about sponsorship money that's it. Maybe being part of the moto bro IN cliche. Isn't that usually associated with being a sell out? Just look at how they ignored the varner thing and still promoted his ass.
Same old script. You peons don't know the things I do and you've got it all wrong, but also I'm not going to tell you a single thing that night give you some insight and help you understand it like I do.
On this issue in particular the insiders have a real internal conflict because they know we're right but they also don't want to be the one to cause drama at the cool kids table. Best thing for them is to pretend like it didn't happen and it makes them uncomfortable when it keeps coming back up, so they lash out at the people bringing it up.
There's more to the story w LACR and why they closed, people have been able to get insurance for it, the track has been a bit weird with this whole thing from other people I've talked to that want to race/ride there.
As far as this goes, I'm not into cancel culture- if you don't want to support EKS because of this, then cool. I can respect that & understand that opinion. It's not an unreasonable one.
Me, myself, I've known Rich for a long time, seen him do many great things for the industry/local riders. I also believe that if there was no merit to this lawsuit, it would've been thrown out so the American judicial system decided that there was track negligence. I'm not an expert in laws/tracks etc so I'll leave it to them. Others testified that it was unsafe, a judge agreed and Rich was able to pay some, not all, of his kids medical bills & this injury still affects him today.
Sad to see the abuse & harassment that RT has gotten over this. Again, you do you & not buy EKS-I can respect that but cancel culture, trying to ruin someones livelihood is complete BS IMO. Monday night I do a show where anyone can call in, haven't gotten one call about this ever for all the tough guys on here.
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That's not how settlements work.......
That's hilarious, you followed the exact format Truck put forth one comment before yours.
Same old script. You peons don't know the things I do and you've got it all wrong, but also I'm not going to tell you a single thing that might give you some insight and help you understand it like I do.
If only there was some type of apparatus to report on such things…
Man is silent for months and comes back to defend Rich Taylor and EKS ...
I didn't say anything about "peons and you've got it all wrong", I just said there's more to the story of "RT lawsuit caused track to close" which IS things people have said.
Yeah man, I don't come here much. Sorry I guess? If only there was a way to call in and talk to me?
Steve, if someone calls into your show and disagrees with you, you either brush them off, hang up, or say "I don't know man" and then, again, brush them off. Which is your prerogative, it is YOUR show. But that's probably why nobody has called in to "discuss" this.
Good people (your opinion of RT, not mine. I don't know the guy) do stupid things sometimes, and that's what happened. Nobody is trying to CANCEL RT or Eks, but to a lot of people there should be consequences for what's being seen as stabbing the industry in the back.
What happened to his kid sucks, but it wasn't because of negligence on the tracks part. It was a mistake while riding, OR it was negligence on the rider for not recognizing a dangerous situation before the END of the day. It can't be both.
As far as the settlement, like truck said that is NOT how settlements work.
No one has called in to talk about this so not sure how you know how I would act? When you say "nobody is trying to cancel RT" you cannot be serious? You have no clue the threats, emails, etc he's gotten or the stuff people have said in this very thread.
For the record, as far as I know, Vurb is in no way associated with EKS Brand. I do not handle marketing for them, but I have never been asked to shoot EKS brand specifically for them. And I have never seen anything on their website about the brand. Everything I say is my own personal opinion and literally has nothing to do with Vurb. I am just like all of you allowed to have an opinion on a situation without getting completely destroyed for it. I have not been disrespectful or mean, no one has to agree with me, that's the cool thing of having an opinion.
Tell us about it.
Do you acknowledge that the lawsuit had something to do with it?
What do you think happens to moto if everyone in that situation makes the choice to sue?
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That entire statement doesn't make any sense whatsoever
The suit was settled out of court, per Rich's own statement at top of this thread. No judge or American judicial system determined anything with regard to track negligence.
Yeah of course there are d-bags out there like that. There always will be no matter what the subject is. Regardless of how I feel about RT or this, threats and things like that are completely unacceptable and do NOTHING for either side of the argument.
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