When can we actually expect a 350 from another manufacturer?

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Heard alot of rumours about triumph making one and a few about yamaha aswell possibly. Does anyone have any real info on if and when we might actually see one? My guess is possibly a 27 model of some sort at the earliest. 

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I'd love to try one, but if I had to guess, never.

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I feel like Triumph or Ducati is the best chance. I’ve read more than a few times the Japanese are stubborn and aren’t as willing to try different things. They did all go electric start though (minus the bananas) so maybe there’s hope. It’s really mind blowing though why no one else has jumped on the 350. The proof is there they will sell. 

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6/10/2025 4:04am Edited Date/Time 6/10/2025 4:05am
cwel11 wrote:
I feel like Triumph or Ducati is the best chance. I’ve read more than a few times the Japanese are stubborn and aren’t as willing to...

I feel like Triumph or Ducati is the best chance. I’ve read more than a few times the Japanese are stubborn and aren’t as willing to try different things. They did all go electric start though (minus the bananas) so maybe there’s hope. It’s really mind blowing though why no one else has jumped on the 350. The proof is there they will sell. 

How many do they the KTM Group sell?

If say Yamaha were to step up, how many could they steal from the KTM group, and how many could they entice from their current clientele, or other brands?

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How many do they the KTM Group sell?If say Yamaha were to step up, how many could they steal from the KTM group, and how many...

How many do they the KTM Group sell?

If say Yamaha were to step up, how many could they steal from the KTM group, and how many could they entice from their current clientele, or other brands?

I don't know exact numbers but I have heard it's one there best selling bikes.

I think with ktm's current situation now would be the best time for another manufacturer to jump in with a 350.

Just in my small group of riding buddies 4 of them would buy a yz350 if they made one.

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If Yamaha made a 350 with their current platform it would be the best bike ever made, and they would sell every unit they produced. 

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If Yamaha made a YZ350 the vet gates would be full of them. I think there is a legitimate business case there.

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How many do they the KTM Group sell?If say Yamaha were to step up, how many could they steal from the KTM group, and how many...

How many do they the KTM Group sell?

If say Yamaha were to step up, how many could they steal from the KTM group, and how many could they entice from their current clientele, or other brands?

Smith246 wrote:
I don't know exact numbers but I have heard it's one there best selling bikes.I think with ktm's current situation now would be the best time...

I don't know exact numbers but I have heard it's one there best selling bikes.

I think with ktm's current situation now would be the best time for another manufacturer to jump in with a 350.

Just in my small group of riding buddies 4 of them would buy a yz350 if they made one.

We were just having this conversation at the track on Sun. Three of my buddies bought new Yamaha 450's and love them but I'm allset with getting back on a 450. Yamaha couldnt even keep a 350 on the showroom floor they would sell so quick. I'm done daydreaming about other manufacturers making a 350. Until I see an actual bike in a dealership, I'm a KTM guy. Even if Triumph puts one out, I sure wont be buying the first generation of it seeing the issues guys are having with their 450s

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Smith246 wrote:
I don't know exact numbers but I have heard it's one there best selling bikes.I think with ktm's current situation now would be the best time...

I don't know exact numbers but I have heard it's one there best selling bikes.

I think with ktm's current situation now would be the best time for another manufacturer to jump in with a 350.

Just in my small group of riding buddies 4 of them would buy a yz350 if they made one.

Same with my group. There would be a line outside waiting to buy them. 

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Just because another manufacture makes a 350, does not  mean they will get it right the first time…KTM has many years of development on that engine…although I would enjoy seeing Suzuki blow everyones mind with an all new 350 and then fully commit to it by racing the it in the 450 class….

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Just because another manufacture makes a 350, does not  mean they will get it right the first time…KTM has many years of development on that engine…although...

Just because another manufacture makes a 350, does not  mean they will get it right the first time…KTM has many years of development on that engine…although I would enjoy seeing Suzuki blow everyones mind with an all new 350 and then fully commit to it by racing the it in the 450 class….

I said as much above. I wouldn't be in any rush to buy the first couple years of another manufacturer's brand new 350. As much as I love my KTM, it would be nice to have some other options to choose from. At this point if I wanted to change it up, I would sooner go down to a 250 than I would go back to a 450. 

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Smith246 wrote:
I don't know exact numbers but I have heard it's one there best selling bikes.I think with ktm's current situation now would be the best time...

I don't know exact numbers but I have heard it's one there best selling bikes.

I think with ktm's current situation now would be the best time for another manufacturer to jump in with a 350.

Just in my small group of riding buddies 4 of them would buy a yz350 if they made one.

SeTex wrote:

Same with my group. There would be a line outside waiting to buy them. 

I've already told my dealer if he hears anything I want my name on the first one he can get ha ha. 

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6/10/2025 5:20am

I hated the first and second gen hermaphrodite Yamahas. So I wanted to hate the current gen. A buddy of mine has a 2025 yz450F, I ride a 2023 KTM 350, KYB converted forks, revalved shock, x trig linkage, full AKRO, GET ecu running a 2nd injector by HP Race Development. A typical Vet bike. I’m 39 and ride Vet B. I love my bike. Best bike I ever owned. 

We swapped bikes one night at the track and I wasn’t expecting to like his Yamaha at all. I ended up completely falling in love with it. Handled so nicely, felt comfortable, ultra stable, but it had way too much power for my liking. If Yamaha came out with a 350, I’d wait at my local dealership with cash every morning until they received one! 

 

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We were just having this conversation at the track on Sun. Three of my buddies bought new Yamaha 450's and love them but I'm allset with...

We were just having this conversation at the track on Sun. Three of my buddies bought new Yamaha 450's and love them but I'm allset with getting back on a 450. Yamaha couldnt even keep a 350 on the showroom floor they would sell so quick. I'm done daydreaming about other manufacturers making a 350. Until I see an actual bike in a dealership, I'm a KTM guy. Even if Triumph puts one out, I sure wont be buying the first generation of it seeing the issues guys are having with their 450s

I've been a long time fan and owned every generation 350 and loved them all but just getting a bit stale with ktm.

Just ticked over 10hrs on my TF450 and loving it so far. Definitely a bit scared about some of the stories I am hearing but. Don't think it will be a bike I'm confident to put 100hrs plus on.

6/10/2025 5:33am

Makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills. The bike has been a huge sales success for KTM and everyone else has just allowed them to own the whole demographic, and with a lot of the 250s and 450s sharing a frame and the majority of other components it doesn't seem like it would be some huge manufacturing/parts undertaking either. R&D an engine and you capture (or recapture) a whole new customer base. Like everyone else has said, there would be a waiting list, I'd drive over to my Yamaha, Kawi, or Honda dealership today and buy a YZ350, KX350, or CRF350, like first to make one gets my money, but instead you guys literally don't make a bike for me. I mean I have loved every KTM 350 I've had it's just weird now that that's 100% my bike of choice I only have 1 option if 3 color choices, and with this whole KTM/Bajaj deal I'd really love to have another option just in case.

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Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t one in the works yet.

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We were just having this conversation at the track on Sun. Three of my buddies bought new Yamaha 450's and love them but I'm allset with...

We were just having this conversation at the track on Sun. Three of my buddies bought new Yamaha 450's and love them but I'm allset with getting back on a 450. Yamaha couldnt even keep a 350 on the showroom floor they would sell so quick. I'm done daydreaming about other manufacturers making a 350. Until I see an actual bike in a dealership, I'm a KTM guy. Even if Triumph puts one out, I sure wont be buying the first generation of it seeing the issues guys are having with their 450s

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I've been a long time fan and owned every generation 350 and loved them all but just getting a bit stale with ktm.Just ticked over 10hrs...

I've been a long time fan and owned every generation 350 and loved them all but just getting a bit stale with ktm.

Just ticked over 10hrs on my TF450 and loving it so far. Definitely a bit scared about some of the stories I am hearing but. Don't think it will be a bike I'm confident to put 100hrs plus on.

I hope you got a good one. I say that in all seriousness not being a sarcastic prick. My buddy has the new Triumph 450 and loved it, coming off his '24 KTM. Well, I'm pretty sure he's in the middle of Triumph giving him a new motor right now. 

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If Yamaha made a YZ350 the vet gates would be full of them. I think there is a legitimate business case there.

The 350 is about the most popular size bike in the vet classes in our Hare Scramble series but lately a lot of YZ250's have been joining the ranks with the primary complaint is they wish it had a bit more power. Yes, a YZ350f would sell like hotcakes. 

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Smith246 wrote:
Heard alot of rumours about triumph making one and a few about yamaha aswell possibly. Does anyone have any real info on if and when we...

Heard alot of rumours about triumph making one and a few about yamaha aswell possibly. Does anyone have any real info on if and when we might actually see one? My guess is possibly a 27 model of some sort at the earliest. 

Lol, do you know how expensive it will be in ‘27? 

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ML512 wrote:
Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t...

Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t one in the works yet.

Any chance you could pass onto the guys at yamaha how many people on here would buy a yz350 if they made one 🤣

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ML512 wrote:
Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t...

Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t one in the works yet.

Smith246 wrote:

Any chance you could pass onto the guys at yamaha how many people on here would buy a yz350 if they made one 🤣

Ohh I hammered the R&D and research group a couple months ago about it. I spent half my time with them pitching it. 😂

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There’s a reason KTM went broke. Just sayin

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ML512 wrote:
Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t...

Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t one in the works yet.

Smith246 wrote:

Any chance you could pass onto the guys at yamaha how many people on here would buy a yz350 if they made one 🤣

ML512 wrote:

Ohh I hammered the R&D and research group a couple months ago about it. I spent half my time with them pitching it. 😂

You're a good man

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ML512 wrote:
Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t...

Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t one in the works yet.

Smith246 wrote:

Any chance you could pass onto the guys at yamaha how many people on here would buy a yz350 if they made one 🤣

ML512 wrote:

Ohh I hammered the R&D and research group a couple months ago about it. I spent half my time with them pitching it. 😂

Ha ha very nice. On behalf of all us 350 lovers thankyou 👍

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There’s a reason KTM went broke. Just sayin

Can you give me the correlation between making a 350 and going broke? 

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ML512 wrote:
Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t...

Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t one in the works yet.

This is the one I’d like to see. After putting in a lot of time on Triumphs 250 model, and loving it, a 350 model would be a Moto weapon. 

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burn1986 wrote:

There’s a reason KTM went broke. Just sayin

There is. And having the 350 option for their customers was not the reason.

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ML512 wrote:
Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t...

Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t one in the works yet.

Smith246 wrote:

Any chance you could pass onto the guys at yamaha how many people on here would buy a yz350 if they made one 🤣

ML512 wrote:

Ohh I hammered the R&D and research group a couple months ago about it. I spent half my time with them pitching it. 😂

It's funny, when Travis Preston was on Pulp the 350 subject came up and he was totally not getting why people would want a 350. Uh, duhhhh just because you have the talent to wring a 450's neck doesn't mean us normies do. 

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ML512 wrote:
Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t...

Triumph would be the most likely and earliest we will see. Yamaha seems to be considering one but as of a few months ago, there wasn’t one in the works yet.

Triumph will have one by December, but won’t be out until ‘27. 

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Triumph will have one by December, but won’t be out until ‘27. 

My first choice would be a yz350 but I'll happily take a TF350 to go alongside my TF450RC 👌

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6/10/2025 6:41am Edited Date/Time 6/10/2025 6:42am
Smith246 wrote:

My first choice would be a yz350 but I'll happily take a TF350 to go alongside my TF450RC 👌

Woo woo

Do you race/ ride them or just have them in your trophy case?

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