New Hondas

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5/22/2025 9:09am Edited Date/Time 5/22/2025 9:09am

The 450 looks the same as the 2025...not even BNG! Are they taking marketing advice from Suzuki?

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5/22/2025 9:11am
davistld01 wrote:

The 450 looks the same as the 2025...not even BNG! Are they taking marketing advice from Suzuki?

Wow, you're right. Even BNG is too much to ask for apparently. They're identical. 

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5/22/2025 9:21am
davistld01 wrote:

The 450 looks the same as the 2025...not even BNG! Are they taking marketing advice from Suzuki?

TriRacer27 wrote:

Wow, you're right. Even BNG is too much to ask for apparently. They're identical. 

Alfred P Sloan is rolling over in his grave 

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5/22/2025 9:23am

Every Honda cycle is the same with new models (25 being most recent) --> First two years, the fork is too soft and the bike is too "stinkbuggy" -- Year three, the suspension gets fixed with some moderate engine updates and doesn't change for year four --> Brand new model coming for "2029" 

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5/22/2025 9:24am
TriRacer27 wrote:

Wow, you're right. Even BNG is too much to ask for apparently. They're identical. 

It’s like when they sold off the previous generation of 450’s along side the new generation at a lower price a couple of years ago.

They could not even bother to give the old bikes the same color scheme as the current bikes they sold.

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5/22/2025 9:50am

As a parts supplier and with there being 4 years on the 250 2022-2025 and 5 with the 450 2021-2025 designs I was expecting there to be a design change on the 450 this year. 

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5/22/2025 12:00pm
lumpy790 wrote:
As a parts supplier and with there being 4 years on the 250 2022-2025 and 5 with the 450 2021-2025 designs I was expecting there to...

As a parts supplier and with there being 4 years on the 250 2022-2025 and 5 with the 450 2021-2025 designs I was expecting there to be a design change on the 450 this year. 

Wasn’t the 450 newish last year?

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5/22/2025 12:12pm

I see some complaints about not even changing graphics. In this day and age, i cant blame them. Everyone and their brother puts graphics on their bikes now, and the guys that dont quite frankly dont care. If i was in charge of those decisions, i think i would go that route to save a couple bucks as well. Honda surely wont end up like KTM, now will they? LOL

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5/22/2025 12:13pm
lumpy790 wrote:
As a parts supplier and with there being 4 years on the 250 2022-2025 and 5 with the 450 2021-2025 designs I was expecting there to...

As a parts supplier and with there being 4 years on the 250 2022-2025 and 5 with the 450 2021-2025 designs I was expecting there to be a design change on the 450 this year. 

soggy wrote:

Wasn’t the 450 newish last year?

Yes, the 450 got significant changes in 2025, as did the 250.

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5/22/2025 12:27pm
lumpy790 wrote:
As a parts supplier and with there being 4 years on the 250 2022-2025 and 5 with the 450 2021-2025 designs I was expecting there to...

As a parts supplier and with there being 4 years on the 250 2022-2025 and 5 with the 450 2021-2025 designs I was expecting there to be a design change on the 450 this year. 

soggy wrote:

Wasn’t the 450 newish last year?

EAmato88 wrote:

Yes, the 450 got significant changes in 2025, as did the 250.

Yes, they did.

Who could forget all the hype in the middle of the Nationals last summer when they rolled them out and Hunter was tasked with promoting them every weekend?

I believe the slogan for the ad campaign was, "The 2025 Honda CRF450R: When only second place will do." 

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5/22/2025 1:26pm
lumpy790 wrote:
As a parts supplier and with there being 4 years on the 250 2022-2025 and 5 with the 450 2021-2025 designs I was expecting there to...

As a parts supplier and with there being 4 years on the 250 2022-2025 and 5 with the 450 2021-2025 designs I was expecting there to be a design change on the 450 this year. 

Dazzy just took his shirt off

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5/22/2025 1:31pm Edited Date/Time 5/22/2025 1:34pm

Cooling systems are same for those years so minor changes to what the frame and plastic so it looks different?  

I am happy I do not have to create a bunch of new designed hoses for 2026 so far it looks like all brands will be tha same as 2025

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5/22/2025 1:32pm
lumpy790 wrote:
Cooling systems are same for those years so minor changes to what the frame and plastic so it looks different?  I am happy I do not...

Cooling systems are same for those years so minor changes to what the frame and plastic so it looks different?  

I am happy I do not have to create a bunch of new designed hoses for 2026 so far it looks like all brands will be tha same as 2025

The big hype was stiffening the frame that everyone said was too stiff to begin with. Turns out it was too soft/flexy.

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5/22/2025 4:57pm
EAmato88 wrote:
I see some complaints about not even changing graphics. In this day and age, i cant blame them. Everyone and their brother puts graphics on their...

I see some complaints about not even changing graphics. In this day and age, i cant blame them. Everyone and their brother puts graphics on their bikes now, and the guys that dont quite frankly dont care. If i was in charge of those decisions, i think i would go that route to save a couple bucks as well. Honda surely wont end up like KTM, now will they? LOL

To me, using the same graphics seems like a bad business decision.  (I think the Hondas had basically the same graphics from 2022-2024.)

For people who like to have the newest equipment, if the 2026 graphics are the same, then they might decide they can just get another year out of their 2025 model, since it looks the same as the 2026.  But if the 2026 has new graphics, they might be tempted to buy the newest. 

 

I guess my question is: what's the downside of BNG?

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5/22/2025 5:19pm
EAmato88 wrote:
I see some complaints about not even changing graphics. In this day and age, i cant blame them. Everyone and their brother puts graphics on their...

I see some complaints about not even changing graphics. In this day and age, i cant blame them. Everyone and their brother puts graphics on their bikes now, and the guys that dont quite frankly dont care. If i was in charge of those decisions, i think i would go that route to save a couple bucks as well. Honda surely wont end up like KTM, now will they? LOL

RichieW13 wrote:
To me, using the same graphics seems like a bad business decision.  (I think the Hondas had basically the same graphics from 2022-2024.)For people who like...

To me, using the same graphics seems like a bad business decision.  (I think the Hondas had basically the same graphics from 2022-2024.)

For people who like to have the newest equipment, if the 2026 graphics are the same, then they might decide they can just get another year out of their 2025 model, since it looks the same as the 2026.  But if the 2026 has new graphics, they might be tempted to buy the newest. 

 

I guess my question is: what's the downside of BNG?

the downside of BNG is they probably have to make new marketing material, photo's, videos.  Same as last year, just hit repeat.

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5/22/2025 6:27pm

Big upset. America gets the European Transalp colors over the Dick Dastardly, matte black. that's something. 

 


 

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