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AMA Pro is no longer a part of the AMA.... hasn't been for a couple years now, try and keep up.
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But that might not be any easier to get passed.
He even stopped after Gravity Cavity and "Let Chad Bye" and then roosted the $hit out of him too. (Nothin against Reed, at all).
in mexico a 450 is almost 10k usd guess its not dumb to assume you dont see too many 2010 bikes at the tracks this year.
the only part that sucks is that i loved 125 motocrossers and i rode the tiddlers for almost 15 years until nobody but ktm and husky sold 125 motocrossers now im stuck with a 250 rmz that i like to ride but not as much as i did with the tiddler so i'm starting to spend my money at the golf course and the mountain bike shop instead of putting it back at the mx industry as a silent complaint to the lack of 2 stroke bikes available.
But you are not trying to argue that if two strokes of equal displacement were allowed to race it would end AMA Pro motocross as we know it, are you?
I think AMA Pro Racing is dropping the ball on this and missing a chance to have a 2 stroke vs. 4 stroke battle in their race program.
Sadly, it may never come to pass.
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If the OEM'S refuse to participate, then it would end AMA Pro Motocross as we know it.
My statement is that the solution is simple and would not take an advanced degree in differential calculus to come up with the solution.
Everyone gets on here and say we need this displacement or that displacement to make everything equal. Or we need this sound level or that sound level to even things out. Or some witches brew combination. The bikes are already on the showroom floor for that.
It is simple, straight up displacement and let the chips fall were they may. The bikes are already on the showroom floor for that.
As far as the OEM's they are scaling back already, Yamaha does not have a team, Kawasaki and Suzuki are down to one top rider and some would argue Honda has not had a factory team since Carmichael left.
Do we have one factory team manager on record as saying "If we let two strokes in........we are quitting?"
For the record I do own and race a YZ250, but I have raced and rode four strokes and do not have a problem or a bias with them or against them, to be honest I like them just fine.
2nd Motocross bikes are "CLOSED COURSE RACING MACHINES".... there will NEVER be emissions restrictions on them. So stop your bullshiting.....
Jees imaging going to inspection after a race and getting an emissions test... RIGHT
I think you might find that the EPA regulation says that those closed course machines that are exempt have to be actually used on a closed course. How many people buy MX bikes and use them offroad in the US? Technically all those bikes are being used illegally. Maybe a moot point because it's hard to police.
Are all snowmobiles and outboard engines governed by CARB regulations, regardless of use? (that's actually a legitimate question).
In any event, there doesn't have to be actual legislation that directly effects MX bikes. The threat (real or perceived) is often enough, or legislation that indirectly has the desired effect e.g. you can import the bikes but not sell them or vice versa.
Never say "Never", emission restrictions on closed course bikes were originally proposed by the EPA, but later retracted. If they were willing to table it once, they will most likely do it again.
Finally, emission testing every bike is ludicrous, the OEM would only have to show the results for that particular engine or model. It either passes or it doesn't, if it didn't pass you would never be able to buy the bike in the first place.
Thanks for all of the info and opinions here, makes me appreciate the fact that we are all so passionate about motocross, and I am lucky to have a role in the future of this series.
DC
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It's not the idea of four-strokes that I disagree with.
As a rider, fan, and occasional racer it's the ridiculously high dB levels that come with 4-strokes that ruin it for me. As an owner, the lower cost in maintenance is a huge selling point of 2-strokes. It's a pain to mix gas of course, and if you forget the lube you toast your scooter's engine.. Nice to be able to put gas in and go.
Forcing kids to ride thumpers in your Schoolboy class seems to exasperate the noise issue by requiring moms & dads to buy and maintain (and hop-up with louder exhaust pipes) the more expensive four-strokes. Only one manufacturer even makes a 150 four stroke.
DC you're one of the better politicians around.. throwing the 150 class in the petition thread getting everyone excited thinking it was a 2-stroke class. Well played.
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