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“Litter” - get fucked
I think addiction is a lot more complex than we thought, and there are some pretty major biological components to it. I certainly don’t think that everyone gets addicted or can ‘beat’ their addictions the same.
I have a friend who was never as big of a drinker as I was when we were younger (under 25ish), but I really cut back on the drinking after becoming a father at 27. I went months without a drink and when I had any alcohol it was usually a couple of drinks at a social event. I still go months at a time without drinking.
He had his first child just a few months after our first and said that he was also going to basically quit drinking. He couldn’t, he actually got worse to the point that he had to drink every single day. He’s lost a couple of families over it since then, and more than a few good jobs. But he had some sort of craving that I was extremely fortunate to not develop.
I would imagine that most illicit drugs are the same way. I’ve had several of cousins who’ve ruined their lives over drugs, and it’s scared me that it might be a genetic thing so if I need strong pain meds I ask the doctor to only give me half the prescription he would normally write, and I try to throw out half of what I do get. Vicodin makes me feel indestructible, and I’m pretty sure that if I took it any time I felt any pain, I’d be hooked on it like so many others have been.
I hear you. Drugs like speed (crank/meth/ice) mess up folks. Seems like anyone I ever knew who got into that shit were having tons of fun at first. Staying up for days partying all night with hookers,strippers and doing all that fun stuff. But then before they knew it ,they had made the drug their lifestyle. Took over their whole lives until they hit rock bottom and then got straight.
OxyContin is where a lot of people I knew who were into opioids got started. Prescribed pain killers.
The person I mentioned in my previous post said, that’s where he started.
He was prescribed Oxy, then once he had to get it on the streets, he started smoking it. The time release added to the second Gen pills prohibited users from smoking it. Gen 1 Oxy went from $30 as pill to $90.
He switched to heroin because, it was cheaper.
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Some of the beauty queens I knew from school I came across some time later. Just living for the next fix. The next bag. Totally ruined their lives.
One line was too many. Ten pounds wasn’t enough.
Was he buying legal heroin or meth? If not, he was a criminal
True but, I guess you gotta look at it as a sliding scale.
He wasn’t out hurting anyone but, himself and, worked to support his addiction
Why should it be all one the dealer ? It takes 2 to make the transaction
Illegal workers are the same, both the worker and the employer should be punished imo
My rebel daughter now 32 has lost around 5 friends to it to date...two still do blow frequenlty and one day....there will be Fent in it and their toast ...
It's only a matter of time my daughter says.
It only takes a pin drop of it I'm told for legit medical use.
Why is narcan free for the taking for people who choose to use, yet big pharma charges exorbitant prices for EpiPens for those with something they clearly didn’t choose?
I lost my best friend to OD from oxi in 09 - he and his dad is who got me into dirt bikes in the first place. I tried like hell to get him to join the military with me in 00, but he was afraid he would miss out on life. Turns out that’s exactly what he missed out on…..life.
This subject just pisses me off.
That is scary as hell.
Exactly what are you getting at? Drug laws have gotten very different depending on where one lives, so the question of legality depends a lot on locality.
Or are you just trying to be obnoxious about exposing what you deem as hypocrisy?
It seems to be a west coast only problem now. Where is was everywhere. Even in tiny Green Bay rich women’s kids woukd buy a zanix off the st and die from fentanyl.
I definitely wasn't calling anyone litter if thats what you meant, actual trash on the ground. The extreme cops will put you on the ground if grandma drops a cigarette out your window so it's zero tolerance but it is very clean and that's why people retire here.
Too busy planning the invasion of canada and greenland.
The plans will be on signal soon.
Unfortunately, having personal use amounts is legal in Washington.
That went out the window when everyone realized Canada isn’t the problem, in fact more of that shit comes our way through the border than goes out. A lot more.
It was just an excuse to tariff Canada.
I lost a good friend to that shit. Captain of our hockey team growing up, gone at 30. He and I played hockey together for nearly 20 years. Gone just like that.
Yes, as I said earlier, I don’t understand how drug users are the only criminals that as a society (or at least non moto) thinks they aren’t the problem
The dealers are the problem somehow. If people stopped buying shit their wouldn’t be dealers, problem solved.
No one asks what we should do when a drunk driver dies
People rejoice when a thief is killed
But when a drug user dies from drugs WEVE GOT TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
Pit Row
I don’t believe this to be true, I’m fairly certain “hard” drugs are still illegal. If it’s enforced is another question, but I don’t believe any state has said you can do any drugs you want
You were saying??
Yeah about Oregon, but Washington actually strengthened their punishments for prohibited substances a couple years ago. It used to be that they had to try to do rehab/diversion programs for small amounts and first time offenders, etc. They eliminated those requirements and added minimum punishments that weren’t there before.
Now whether local judges are actually following those types of guidelines or not is another matter. Not many defense attorneys are going to complain if their client gets a lighter sentence than they really should.
I haven’t checked up on recent changes regarding drug laws. I was pointing out that, there are states in which hard drugs are actually legal.
Oregon did roll back on that law I believe last year after looking a bit further into it a few minutes ago.
I thought Washington legalized drugs in similar fashion as Oregon?
If I’m wrong, I stand corrected.
WA and OR appear to be the same, hard drugs are still illegal
Are now illegal. They weren’t in 2020 until 2024. I remember when the law went into effect in Oregon.
There was a recent window in which they were.
Probably because most drug users become addicted through our pharma/healthcare system that is designed to peddle us medications.
So you brought a “predator call” into a zoo and made the animals go into a frenzy and you’re bragging about it? You sound like the type who pushes people in wheelchairs downstairs because it’s funny. You need help
Ahh, so you're going with the holier-than-thou approach, which is not surprising coming from you.
Yep. Valid point Soggy. I don't know about "Most", but I know of a few (RIP) that never took any drugs but were badly injured and then got addicted to not being in constant pain. They weren't taking them for fun. But one every 6 hours turns into one every 4 hours, then 2 every 6 hours and the cycle continues. Meanwhile the doctors keep shelling them out. I think they're more conscientious of it nowadays compared to several years ago. I feel terrible for those guys. The guys just looking for a better high ? Yeah no sympathy for them. But it's not something that you can categorize everyone in the same column.
Everybody is different
The worst thing a person can find out is that drink or drugs cure you, brings relief to the almost constant turmoil in your brain. You will never be able to forget that relief you got after the first drink/hit. You have a lifetime of resisting the urge.
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