Will new Auto Tariffs impact dirtbikes?

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Edited Date/Time 4/6/2025 8:20am

News say 25% Tarrifs on all non US made vehicles and parts. Is off-road included in this? Couldn’t see anything about that specifically. 

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3/26/2025 10:19pm Edited Date/Time 3/26/2025 10:19pm

Details haven't been announced, a tariff may not be added, if a 25% tariff is added, it will be added to the imported cost, including shipping into the US, but excluding warehousing, transport and dealer fees in the US, so price increase would be closer to 15%.

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Details haven't been announced, a tariff may not be added, if a 25% tariff is added, it will be added to the imported cost, including shipping...

Details haven't been announced, a tariff may not be added, if a 25% tariff is added, it will be added to the imported cost, including shipping into the US, but excluding warehousing, transport and dealer fees in the US, so price increase would be closer to 15%.

Detailed answer. Thanks. 

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Not entirely clear yet, but Motorcycles were on the docket back in Feb, so it is very possible they will be included.

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stop with the sky is falling nonsense 

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3/26/2025 11:28pm
bvm111 wrote:

stop with the sky is falling nonsense 

The OP asked an honest question, do you have anything to add?

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bvm111 wrote:

stop with the sky is falling nonsense 

The OP asked an honest question, do you have anything to add?

I added to stop with the sky is falling nonsense … do you have anything else you would like to add? 

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3/26/2025 11:29pm
Details haven't been announced, a tariff may not be added, if a 25% tariff is added, it will be added to the imported cost, including shipping...

Details haven't been announced, a tariff may not be added, if a 25% tariff is added, it will be added to the imported cost, including shipping into the US, but excluding warehousing, transport and dealer fees in the US, so price increase would be closer to 15%.

thearc wrote:

Detailed answer. Thanks. 

2025 model year Japanese bikes won't be affected, they have already been imported, I don't know about Austrian bikes. If a tariff is applied it would effect 2026 model bikes.

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3/26/2025 11:31pm
bvm111 wrote:

stop with the sky is falling nonsense 

The OP asked an honest question, do you have anything to add?

bvm111 wrote:

I added to stop with the sky is falling nonsense … do you have anything else you would like to add? 

I looked outside, the sky doesn't appear to be falling!

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Americans have enough money they can easily afford this.......

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mxxxeR1 wrote:

Americans have enough money they can easily afford this.......

Except JLaw

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3/27/2025 4:49am Edited Date/Time 3/27/2025 5:02am
mxxxeR1 wrote:

Americans have enough money they can easily afford this.......

American here

15% price increase on a $10k bike is $11.5k


It’s not nothing. In fact, it’s a lot of money.  Most Americans can’t afford the $10k dirtbike.  Honestly if this effects even 10-20% of new bike sales it could have big effects on support in our sport.

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bvm111 wrote:

stop with the sky is falling nonsense 

The OP asked an honest question, do you have anything to add?

bvm111 wrote:

I added to stop with the sky is falling nonsense … do you have anything else you would like to add? 

That attitude is why the sky falls to begin with. You'd rather sit back and watch a corrupt group of old assholes destroy the sport you love while being equally an asshole to the people who care? 

To add something useful, I work in sales at one of the largest Honda dealerships in North America. The last bit of news I saw on it was that motorcycles, at the very least off road, will not be included. But these things seem to change day to day as the people behind the curtain argue over it and I've learned you can never trust anything you see until papers are signed and it's put out in public.

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3/27/2025 5:37am

The OP asked an honest question, do you have anything to add?

bvm111 wrote:

I added to stop with the sky is falling nonsense … do you have anything else you would like to add? 

HondaSM wrote:
That attitude is why the sky falls to begin with. You'd rather sit back and watch a corrupt group of old assholes destroy the sport you...

That attitude is why the sky falls to begin with. You'd rather sit back and watch a corrupt group of old assholes destroy the sport you love while being equally an asshole to the people who care? 

To add something useful, I work in sales at one of the largest Honda dealerships in North America. The last bit of news I saw on it was that motorcycles, at the very least off road, will not be included. But these things seem to change day to day as the people behind the curtain argue over it and I've learned you can never trust anything you see until papers are signed and it's put out in public.

The US Tariff Schedule doesn't differentiate between off road and on road motorcycles, only engine size...

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3/27/2025 5:46am
bvm111 wrote:

I added to stop with the sky is falling nonsense … do you have anything else you would like to add? 

HondaSM wrote:
That attitude is why the sky falls to begin with. You'd rather sit back and watch a corrupt group of old assholes destroy the sport you...

That attitude is why the sky falls to begin with. You'd rather sit back and watch a corrupt group of old assholes destroy the sport you love while being equally an asshole to the people who care? 

To add something useful, I work in sales at one of the largest Honda dealerships in North America. The last bit of news I saw on it was that motorcycles, at the very least off road, will not be included. But these things seem to change day to day as the people behind the curtain argue over it and I've learned you can never trust anything you see until papers are signed and it's put out in public.

The US Tariff Schedule doesn't differentiate between off road and on road motorcycles, only engine size...

The US Tariff Schedule doesn't differentiate between off road and on road motorcycles, only engine size...

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This is what I was trying to get at really. The last time I saw that page it looked different. It's hard to tell if what I see is real based on the sources. I'd like to think it wouldn't affect us but in reality we are a tiny fish in a giant ocean of corrupt BS. The whole industry would have to get loud to make a difference and I still don't see the government caring enough about our sport to change their agenda. I've said it for a long time, the government will be the death of our sport

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HondaSM wrote:
That attitude is why the sky falls to begin with. You'd rather sit back and watch a corrupt group of old assholes destroy the sport you...

That attitude is why the sky falls to begin with. You'd rather sit back and watch a corrupt group of old assholes destroy the sport you love while being equally an asshole to the people who care? 

To add something useful, I work in sales at one of the largest Honda dealerships in North America. The last bit of news I saw on it was that motorcycles, at the very least off road, will not be included. But these things seem to change day to day as the people behind the curtain argue over it and I've learned you can never trust anything you see until papers are signed and it's put out in public.

You’re obviously extremely ignorant of how global economics work and the big picture. The blue collar middle class of the US has been dismantled through decades of short sighted greed by both sides of the political aisle and large companies who moved or were forced to move manufacturing out of the country.

I know some people refuse to mentally get past “orange man bad” but what the current admin is attempting to do is possibly the best thing that has ever happened in this country for the working class, the backbone of any successful country, and our strategic political independence. 

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HondaSM wrote:
That attitude is why the sky falls to begin with. You'd rather sit back and watch a corrupt group of old assholes destroy the sport you...

That attitude is why the sky falls to begin with. You'd rather sit back and watch a corrupt group of old assholes destroy the sport you love while being equally an asshole to the people who care? 

To add something useful, I work in sales at one of the largest Honda dealerships in North America. The last bit of news I saw on it was that motorcycles, at the very least off road, will not be included. But these things seem to change day to day as the people behind the curtain argue over it and I've learned you can never trust anything you see until papers are signed and it's put out in public.

731chopper wrote:
You’re obviously extremely ignorant of how global economics work and the big picture. The blue collar middle class of the US has been dismantled through decades...

You’re obviously extremely ignorant of how global economics work and the big picture. The blue collar middle class of the US has been dismantled through decades of short sighted greed by both sides of the political aisle and large companies who moved or were forced to move manufacturing out of the country.

I know some people refuse to mentally get past “orange man bad” but what the current admin is attempting to do is possibly the best thing that has ever happened in this country for the working class, the backbone of any successful country, and our strategic political independence. 

Cool story bro. I don't give a flying fuck what any politician is trying to do. It's not orange man bad for me. It's they are all corrupt dickholes who don't give a flying fuck about what the people actually want. I'm not here to get into a political talk because every politcian on this planet could fall into a volcano for all I care. At the end of the day, nothing you said changes the fact that our sport could meet it's demise because of the government whether it be bad orange man, bad white man or bad brown man. I truly don't gaf, I just want the one thing that keeps me mentally balanced to be available to me. Money is not the source of happiness. Motorcycles are.

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HondaSM wrote:
Cool story bro. I don't give a flying fuck what any politician is trying to do. It's not orange man bad for me. It's they are...

Cool story bro. I don't give a flying fuck what any politician is trying to do. It's not orange man bad for me. It's they are all corrupt dickholes who don't give a flying fuck about what the people actually want. I'm not here to get into a political talk because every politcian on this planet could fall into a volcano for all I care. At the end of the day, nothing you said changes the fact that our sport could meet it's demise because of the government whether it be bad orange man, bad white man or bad brown man. I truly don't gaf, I just want the one thing that keeps me mentally balanced to be available to me. Money is not the source of happiness. Motorcycles are.

Cool your jets my man. The sky isn’t falling. Your sport isn’t meeting its demise. 

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3/27/2025 6:44am Edited Date/Time 3/27/2025 6:46am

Based on this thread, folks seem pretty upset with those responsible for tariffs and price increases.  Is that fair to say? My social circle has different political opinions than most motocross folks I interact with so I’m always curious to hear several sides.  

In a gypsy tales podcast, Deegans mechanic implied that Yamaha upper management came into a trailer and told him “if you want our sport to continue to exist you’d better vote the right way (trump implied)”.  Wondering if a 15% unnecessary price increase is what the title manufacturer had in mind to keep the sport alive.

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I was told the country the product is made in pays that 🤷‍♂️

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3/27/2025 7:27am Edited Date/Time 3/28/2025 7:41am
yak651 wrote:

I was told the country the product is made in pays that 🤷‍♂️

Corporations taking a 15% loss without passing it down to the consumer is unheard of.  For the leaders who claimed that, I have a feeling they aren’t on the consumers side.

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3/27/2025 7:33am Edited Date/Time 3/27/2025 8:45am
thearc wrote:

News say 25% Tarrifs on all non US made vehicles and parts. Is off-road included in this? Couldn’t see anything about that specifically. 

Maybe this will spur manufacturers to make motorcycles in the US.

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3/27/2025 7:38am Edited Date/Time 3/27/2025 7:46am

I'm old enough to remember Reagan's tariffs on import Motorcycles. Anything 750cc and above. Many manufacturers then came out with 700c bikes. (Yamaha Fazer, Honda Nighthawk 700.. etc)

If the same holds true this time, even the Maico 700 is safe. 

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HondaSM wrote:
Cool story bro. I don't give a flying fuck what any politician is trying to do. It's not orange man bad for me. It's they are...

Cool story bro. I don't give a flying fuck what any politician is trying to do. It's not orange man bad for me. It's they are all corrupt dickholes who don't give a flying fuck about what the people actually want. I'm not here to get into a political talk because every politcian on this planet could fall into a volcano for all I care. At the end of the day, nothing you said changes the fact that our sport could meet it's demise because of the government whether it be bad orange man, bad white man or bad brown man. I truly don't gaf, I just want the one thing that keeps me mentally balanced to be available to me. Money is not the source of happiness. Motorcycles are.

731chopper wrote:

Cool your jets my man. The sky isn’t falling. Your sport isn’t meeting its demise. 

Calls me ignorant, tells me to calm down 🙄

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Working in the industry the only OEM to talk about it so far was Can-Am(sxs/atv). They say they're going to try absorb the cost of the increase till they cant financially making it sound like this is going to be a short term thing. Nothing from the Japanese guys yet

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As Kawasaki abandon the 2 stroke revival.  

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I wouldn't get too excited. Relatively speaking dirt bikes are cheap and where money comes from is not a secret. We will all be OK.

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The OP started this as a “bait” thread. It is vaguely moto-related, but primarily political.

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3/27/2025 9:00am
yak651 wrote:

I was told the country the product is made in pays that 🤷‍♂️

Even if the country that made the product has the pay the fee the cost will be passed onto the consumer

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Spoonguy wrote:

I wouldn't get too excited. Relatively speaking dirt bikes are cheap and where money comes from is not a secret. We will all be OK.

This would not be the take if the old admin was trying to implement these tariffs. Take the blinders off. 

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yak651 wrote:

I was told the country the product is made in pays that 🤷‍♂️

Even if the country that made the product has the pay the fee the cost will be passed onto the consumer

lol, I know…

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