24 ktm 350 metal pieces

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Edited Date/Time 3/15/2025 11:39am

I have a 2024 ktm sx 350 that has almost 27hrs on it now. And from the first oil change all the way to the most recent oil change, it produces non magnetic metal pieces that get caught by the oil screen. Never anything on the magnetic drain plug. Doesn't seem normal to me, but thought I'd see if others found the same or not. Oil is changed every 3-4 hours. Have typically done oil filter every other oil change. Also i used a pick to group some of the pieces together,  so they arent as big as it looks on the right side of the screen.1000006415

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3/15/2025 11:42am

Definitely not normal IMO.

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3/15/2025 12:52pm

I agree, not normal….I would probably pull the clutch cover & oil pump cover to inspect….

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3/15/2025 1:21pm
sandman768 wrote:

I agree, not normal….I would probably pull the clutch cover & oil pump cover to inspect….

That sounds reasonable.  I just don't want to get into tearing into an engine that runs fine, burns no oil, etc, because at what point do you stop? But pulling the clutch side case cover to get a look at all the gears, clutch parts and that seems like an ok idea.

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Just look for anything out  of the ordinary…possible piece of case or something rubbing on a case…it’s aluminum, so its not gears or forks….have you pulled the bottom drain bolt? The one you don’t normally pull….

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3/15/2025 1:30pm

Your clue is in the magnetism of those chucks. If that’s non-ferrous metal then you’re looking at aluminum bits. It’s possible that is just remnants from the engine case casting. The only aluminum engine components are the clutch plate, clutch basket, shift drum and piston.

The transmission is made entirely of ferrous metals. It’s not uncommon for casting bits to make there way loose over time.

If you see ferrous metal then I would be worried.

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Your clue is in the magnetism of those chucks. If that’s non-ferrous metal then you’re looking at aluminum bits. It’s possible that is just remnants from...

Your clue is in the magnetism of those chucks. If that’s non-ferrous metal then you’re looking at aluminum bits. It’s possible that is just remnants from the engine case casting. The only aluminum engine components are the clutch plate, clutch basket, shift drum and piston.

The transmission is made entirely of ferrous metals. It’s not uncommon for casting bits to make there way loose over time.

If you see ferrous metal then I would be worried.

Though I agree with all of this. Just seems like @ 27 hours and 11 oil drops ( I checked my maintenance records) that aluminum particles would have been well gone. I will most likely keep riding it for now and gather gaskets and possibly clutch parts. Then pull the right side case and check things out.

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sandman768 wrote:
Just look for anything out  of the ordinary…possible piece of case or something rubbing on a case…it’s aluminum, so its not gears or forks….have you pulled...

Just look for anything out  of the ordinary…possible piece of case or something rubbing on a case…it’s aluminum, so its not gears or forks….have you pulled the bottom drain bolt? The one you don’t normally pull….

I have only pulled the one they show to pull, which is close to the drain plug and screen plug.

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3/15/2025 2:30pm

Lay it on its side and pull the side cover.

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My 2016 350 had these metal bits every oil change I did. I sold the bike at 120h and never had an engine problem. I though it was normal 🤷‍♂️

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Your clue is in the magnetism of those chucks. If that’s non-ferrous metal then you’re looking at aluminum bits. It’s possible that is just remnants from...

Your clue is in the magnetism of those chucks. If that’s non-ferrous metal then you’re looking at aluminum bits. It’s possible that is just remnants from the engine case casting. The only aluminum engine components are the clutch plate, clutch basket, shift drum and piston.

The transmission is made entirely of ferrous metals. It’s not uncommon for casting bits to make there way loose over time.

If you see ferrous metal then I would be worried.

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Though I agree with all of this. Just seems like @ 27 hours and 11 oil drops ( I checked my maintenance records) that aluminum particles...

Though I agree with all of this. Just seems like @ 27 hours and 11 oil drops ( I checked my maintenance records) that aluminum particles would have been well gone. I will most likely keep riding it for now and gather gaskets and possibly clutch parts. Then pull the right side case and check things out.

If you do not find anything there, you might consider taking off the fuel tank, washing the bike thoroughly and removing the cam cover.
You can take a look down around the cam-chain area to see if the chain is eating into anything and look for signs of metal around the cam journals.

If it were a chain problem, you would most likely hear a lot of noise and it's unlikely for a smoked cam journal to live through 27 hours.

I have 17 hours on my MC350F now.  It produced less metal than your photo at the first oil change (1.1 hours) and then a pieces that were almost too small to see in the screen when I changed it again just before the four hour mark.   I have not seen any more in the screen since.

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3/15/2025 3:36pm

There is very little that's aluminum that moves.  My guess is it's left over crap from manufacturing.  Even the clutch basket is steel on these.  If it were me I'd pull the side covers to make sure nothing is obviously wrong and chewing up the cases, then assuming all is well just run it and let the filter do it's job.

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3/15/2025 3:46pm

Not sure if it’s the same design on the 24 as the 19 but more than a few people with my gen of 350 had an issue with the left handed primary gear nut backing off and rubbing against the case and then you see aluminum shavings in the oil. IMG 0204 0.jpeg?VersionId=8Jb Gbi.UezrRaJudXqysMS4 aQeRS6

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3/15/2025 3:57pm

Good information,  thank you 

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3/15/2025 6:26pm

My 19 had the same. Did top end at 90 hrs. Sold it at 140 hrs. Zero issues.

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I have 44 hours on my ‘23 350 SX and have never had any metal savings at all on my oil screen. I would definitely want to pull the clutch cover and check things out just to be sure there’s nothing obviously wrong. 

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Thank for the info guys.  Will give me a direction to go. I currently have the suspension and stuff off the bike, so I will probably have to wait till I get everything put back together so I can more easily drain the oil and stuff unless I get creative. I  will update with any findings when I get there.

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3/16/2025 8:10am Edited Date/Time 3/16/2025 8:20am

I had my primary drive nut back off just like the picture from orange juice 

I also had my freewheel gear pressed to tightly and it would rub the case when starting the bike. 

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/tech-helprace-shop/ktm-freewheel-rubbing-case

The tech at my local shop says he sees the freewheel gear bearing improperly installed from the factory often enough that it wasn't odd to him that it was like that 

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3/16/2025 8:57am

If you recently stripped the drain bolt threads or some threads broke off inside the cases…

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3/17/2025 1:28am
rivvs wrote:
My 2016 350 had these metal bits every oil change I did. I sold the bike at 120h and never had an engine problem. I though...

My 2016 350 had these metal bits every oil change I did. I sold the bike at 120h and never had an engine problem. I though it was normal 🤷‍♂️

I have a 16 350 and see the same type of shavings too...I got a hold of a KTM tech at the race shop who told me he thought it was the side cover near the clutch basket. Pull that cover - no rubbing of any kind there.... Bike runs great. 

Yep... strange. But I'd get the chunks out of there. I took a clear hose - small diameter - l Put some duct tape over the end of a shop vac to cover the end  - poked a hole in the tape and slide the clear hose into it... Put bike on it's side - sucked out the stuff inside the motor using that clear hose through that hole the screen you show goes into. Used a flashlight to see into the engine as I did it. 

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3/17/2025 5:56am

my 23 did the same thing around 20 hours. It was the starter gear behind the flywheel. It shifted on the one way bearing and self clearanced itself on the case. pull the flywheel and you'll see it. seat the gear a bit deeper and your golden. 

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I would definitely pull the clutch side cover and take a look also maybe pull the valve cover. If you are getting remotely close to that amount of material every oil change id say that adds up to a fair bit of metal from something. 

I have 260 hours on my 350 and I have maybe had a couple of the smallest pieces you have over the life of it. Lots of clutch bits sometimes but that's it.  

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3/17/2025 6:55am

I will echo that is a concerning amount of metal for several oil changes. 

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3/17/2025 6:07pm

I had a clutch bolt back out on my 22 350 that rubbed on the cover.  I still have shavings that look exactly like that.  Once the cover was pulled you could see where it was rubbing.

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You got a trip over the bars in your future lol

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geeZ177
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3/19/2025 3:37am

You got a trip over the bars in your future lol

Jeez thanks for that

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3/19/2025 1:46pm

Let us know what you find, it's always so much more helpful for others when a resolution is posted.

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geeZ177
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3/19/2025 3:23pm
DF313 wrote:

Let us know what you find, it's always so much more helpful for others when a resolution is posted.

I will.  For sure.

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3/19/2025 3:42pm

I'd start at the clutch basket, have had similar debris show up with a smoked basket. 

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3/19/2025 5:27pm
Kindasmoky wrote:

I'd start at the clutch basket, have had similar debris show up with a smoked basket. 

If you're talking about the basket itself, I'm pretty sure it has the steel basket, so that wouldn't apply here.

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