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Time for people to recognize coops speed.
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This track doesn't favor many other than Webb (and Malcom..).
He was 11 sec behind leaders and didn't catch up until Malcom backed down last laps and chase crashed. Sure lappers plaid a big part.
Webb does his thing, and if everyone drops out he is there to capitalize on it. Always been like that. He can be there on a given night, just as Roczen, AP, Malcolm. If the circumstances are right.
If Jett, Tomac, Sexton is there in the start, he ain't in the fight. Maybe he found something on the bike this year, but I doubt it. It won't be Webb beat them all, it will be the others beat themselves.
He came back from a 12th place start lol. And beat Jett straight up in a moto at Glendale
He's been as fast in the whoops as anyone except Malcolm. Big improvement over past years.
Gun to my head I would have to pick him for the title
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I find it “extreme easy” to recognize that a guy that’s run the #1 plate twice, wins races seemingly every very year and still commands one of the top contracts in pro-motocross in the USA…well, as I was saying…it’s not too hard to say he has “speed”.
I’m jus’ sayin’…
Oh, by the way…and this is sorta a Cali-Moto-thing…that dude can hook a really solid ride on some very serious waves, too!
Assassin's rarely are out in the open with their trade.
They lurk, in the shadows, then before you know it, when the smoke clears...
There they are standing on top of the carnage.
Just seeing the same pattern as with Roczen. Look at Webb last year. Says he is on the same setup. Riders rarely change unless big injuries or bike being very off (look at Jett and Hunter).
But I do think his persona can benefit this year. Roczen out, Jett out, Tomac out. It's Chase or Webb left for title.
As I said earlier, it truly is Chase title to lose.
I’m sorry, but Webb was tied with the points lead with 4 rounds left last year with a destroyed thumb. I don’t get how you say “ain’t in the fight”. You might have not heard of a legend named Chad Reed, but you gotta be in it to win it. Take that shit elsewhere.
Webb is such a savage. Its like the second he sees blood in the water he strikes. Idk how anyone couldnt say its webbs championship to lose at this point. Only chase and webb are really still in it after last night and webb dominated that ride. From 12th to 2nd is an eli beast mode level ride. That compared to chase who holeshot, led most of the race, crashed out when under pressure by mookie, then faded to 5th. Chase could do it, but hes gonna need to get straightened out. Hes kinda all over the place. Webb is just quietly racking up podiums and making no major mistakes.
Speed for Webb is the same reason as what starts is for Tomac - why they don't have more titles.
Webb is/was just as Anderson opportunistic. Neither has the full package. Very few does.
You don't have to get all b-hurt about it.
If Jett or Tomac would have gone from 12th to 2nd last night, it would have been a BFD for LOTS of folks here. I like and respect both’s abilities. Just give credit where credit is due when it’s not “your guy.”
If 2nd in qualifying isn’t some indication of speed, what does that say about everybody from Q3 on down the line?
Major props to Mookie also for his come from behind W.
IMPRESSIVE!!!
Not to mention, Webb was turning laps faster than Chase in the main.
The delusional will never get it.....
I'm a Webb fan, but until this race, I wasn't convinced of his chances at the title. Sure, he "beat Jett straight up", but that was a heat win. Heat wins aren't main wins. Riders will often not "send if" if they're 2nd or 3rd, and are easily in the main. The same race where he beat Jett in his heat, he got a bad start in the main, and didn't make much progress toward the front. This race, however... going from 12th to 2nd (albeit with some help)... he made a believer out of me. He ran down Ando and Roczen (and probably several other big names) straight up, and passed them. His speed through the whoops has gotten better this year, but this race, his whoops speed was very un-Webb like. Faster than everyone but Mookie. There's a good chance he could have run down Sexton. Mookie was on another level. Nobody was catching him.
Webb's had some lackluster years. He seems to respond to opportunities. He's not going to push things just to get from 7th to 5th. Going from 3rd to 2nd, however, pays much higher dividends, and he'll push himself to take advantage of those opportunities.
To be fair since he started being a championship guy in 2019 his only down year was 2022. One of the best supercross racers in history
Yeah Coop is fast. There, we’ve said it.
Actually Coop beat Jett straight up in the triple crown race. ...but yeah, his whoop riding was amazing and the coming thru the pack was cool to watch.
Coop is my favorite racer....love to see him do well.
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he was blazing fast on the 250 and he’s starting to ride like that a bit more while hybridizing it with the RC strategy he adopted for the 450.
he also appears more lean which I didn’t notice heading into the season.
What you’re doing is discrediting his titles by saying he can only win when the big dogs are out, and leaving him out of the top group, which is insane to say. Because as previously stated, all the dogs were in it last year, and he was tired for points lead with the eventual champ with 4 rounds left. With a destroyed thumb that he did earlier in the year. Call it whatever you want. Webb has what it takes to win, against anyone in the world.
Tomac was out, Roczen out, Chase had a bike failure so went almost a full race down.
Ill say it again, this is Chase title to lose, which he may well do. We have seen Webb occasional results early the last years and everybody said his back to 250 status.
Every year everyone is surprised how good Roczen is early in season and every year it ends up the same.
Roczen stamina, Tomac starts, Chase stability, Webb speed. They all have a flaw. Webbs lack speed. Or at least has been since he went 450.
I wouldn't take anything from yesterday, it was per definition a Webb track. For racing, I really hope Webb can match Chase but I doubt it.
Which people haven't seen Coops speed?
Webbs fastest lap was only 3 tenths off mookies
Your last sentence is not the same as him having the level of speed of Jett, Tomac, or Chase. He's always won via other means - strategy and so on. Give me one example - on video - where Webb shows the kind of explosive speed shown by the three mentioned.
The funny thing for you Webb gropers is even Webb himself admits he doesn't have the speed of some of the others. BTW, this is not to say he doesn't have speed, he has outrageous speed, just not the same as Jett, Tomac, and Chase.
Webb clearly has enough speed to win races and titles. It's just that you never see him on track and think he's the fastest guy out there because he rarely is. He doesn't have those rides where you see him coming through the pack and know, for a fact, that he is going to go right to the front and win. Most of the guys that we think of as greats, except for Dungey, have always had that. RC, Stewart, McGrath, Villopoto, Tomac, Sexton, Jett, Herlings, etc. All of them have had so many races where you'll see them in like 8th or worse and you just know they're going to win. Coop just doesn't quite have that.
Dungey's speed gets disrespected like Coop's and he had a great career. Dungey was fast AF but he just wasn't known to put seconds per lap on everyone like the other greats have. Coop's speed has improved a lot and he has said as much.
Coop is also my fav rider, however I think Jett just played it smart and didn't force the issue too much since it was a triple crown.
Who has ever said Webb doesn't have speed?
Me and plenty of others. Go ahead and prove me wrong but I’m confident that on most of the times he line up against Chase, Tomac and Jett he won’t have the speed to match them if they run a problem free normal race.
Webbs top speed is not at the same level as the others, he has other qualities but the same raw speed as the other guys for 17 rounds is not one of them.
Yes, once in awhile he can have a good night and be up there in speed, but most of the times he is not.
Coop AND his mechanic are cool....and fast. 🙂
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Ever since he's gone to the big boy class, you have people saying that...including the media and announcers.
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