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Exactly...no way I want emx bikes (including surons) on corner canyon, butterfield canyon, valley vista, or even eagle mountain mtb single track trails (never mind the cottonwoods)...they can stay in American Fork canyon, Hobble Creek and diamond fork canyons, solider pass, 5 mile, etc. etc. etc.
For range, the graphs shown briefly in the vid are also on the website
But the best thing is to watch the vids, they've posted the summary but also the actual raw 3 h and 5 h footage, so you can see how it could relate to your own kind of riding, and your own speed between the pro rider, amateur and beginner.
Hard enduro
Hard enduro onboard
Enduro
Enduro onboard
Taddy B speedrun to empty the battery in 1h18
The MX is only available with 80hp, and the 6.5kWh battery, the EX is available with 60hp or 80hp and the 7.2kWh battery.
I suspect Stark discounted the MX's price to move stock before offered it with a 7.2kWh battery at the old higher price.
No but I think it changed today, $10k for 60 hp MX Varg
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It's only showing the 80hp option, the 60hp is not clickable, maybe it's clickable on a phone.
I wish they'd translate those hours into miles...I measure my rides in miles, not hours. I need about 60-75 miles at Vet A pace in the desert (enduro is going to use a lot less battery than desert riding would). But I want it to get there, because I really want one of these bikes.
Stark does not have model years, other manufacturers release a new model every year with minor updates and bold new graphics.
Expect Stark to release new updated models when they have larger battery capacity.
This guy got about 34 miles with 6000 ft of elevation change in about 2 hours on the Varg MX on mountain singletrack at 40hp fwiw.
An ICE bike consumes roughly the same amount of fuel at 8000rpm with full throttle in 1st gear, as it does at 8000rpm with full throttle in 5th gear. If you ride in 1st gear you may not get 60-75 miles range, if you ride in 5th gear you will.
The Stark is the opposite, the slower you ride, the less power it consumes, and the longer it's range, but like an ICE the more throttle you use, the more power it consumes.
You need to work out what speed you ride, and how much throttle you use riding 60-75 miles.
Yep. This might be the first new bike that I will buy because of broad resale market and two year warranty.
They do show the range in distance in the "enduro" vid
Beginner got 50 km, 3h03 (average speed 16 km/h)
Amateur 53 km, 2h19 (23 km/h)
Pro (Taddy) 42 km, 1h18 (32 km/h)
This shows range depends a lot on rider's speed, even on the same terrain.
I'd take these figures as mere indications, will depend a lot on you terrain and riding style, if your desert riding is more hard enduro or WOT that would be so much different.
Another point of reference would be guys racing hare scrambles or GNCC morning races (in 2-3 hours) or Taddy and Eddie Karlsson enduro races.
No way you'd get 60 miles (96 km) with this bike, even with the larger battery and increased range, the technology is not there yet for this kind of range with a 120 kg bike. This bike is ok for slow, technical enduro, if it's gnarly enough you can ride all day.
This bike is another nail in KTM's coffin.
If these bikes will last for a 2 hr XC race, or 40 miles. Im sold.
Just wait until they come out with the super mini. It will be faster than the 2 stroke, and a lot less work for all the mini dads.
I bet they will or be very close depending on how fast you are. I get 35miles out of mine at a decent pace and it's the mx version.
If they do i hope they make range quite good. My friend has the cobra electric mini for his kid and it won't even finish a 25 minute race. Fast bike though.
So which color are you gonna get?
YMMV but folks are posting their 2h race vids
I guess a good yardstick is Varg riders finishing in the first half in GNCC 2h morning races (getting 3 laps in while overall winner gets 4).
This guy also gives his honest opinion after 1 year racing. They have 50 and 100 hours on it (it's obviously the Varg, not Varg EX so some stuff like side stand, phone and its clamp, map switch, chain guide have been updated, larger battery as well). The bike has some flaws but rock solid 2 years warranty, and $12 of gear oil is all the "engine-related" maintenance required to get you up to 500 h (80 ml oil change every 40 h). He wants to sell his cause he can't afford 2 race bikes and the 30-40 miles range he gets is not enough for him. Plus so far they're not allowed racing much in the US (which should change for 2025).
"If they told me the enduro had 15% more range I wouldn't be getting a 350, I would just be buying an enduro". I guess he's not getting a 350 then 😆
Do you run into many 25 min 50cc races?
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Every one for the AZOP races that we run.
Ed races my series. I’m a fair bit faster than he is. I usually catch up to him(he takes off in front of me) and lap him. Just didn’t know how the speed difference would hold up. In IXCR and local XC races they don’t care about the bike. Open is open to them.
A decent exhaust for a 450 costs the same amount and it will get you a horse or two? That is by far the best power to dollar ratio you will find anywhere in the sport.
Varg might not make it for you then, with improved range for Varg EX you'd get a better idea in a few months after some folks do the real world range testing for you 😁
That is kind of what I thought. Doesn't that bother any of you guys that have purchased Stark bikes? Other manufacturers use model years as sort of a revision history, with the current Stark, you do not know if it is a 2023, 2024, 2025 - I hope they have hour meters so if purchasing used, the buyer will have at least a little clue of how much use it actually has had. We base value off of model year and hours, this just feels flawed to me.
And a part of me is bothered by this because I would consider getting one while they are "on sale", but I don't want to buy one that will end up being worth nothing in a year because whatever the next version is, will make the ones today feel obsolete and worth significantly less, but without model years, I have no clue if anything is on the horizon from Stark, it is a pure guessing game which is not fun with a $12K+expense.
Yes it tracks hours. It’s based off a smart phone for goodness sakes lol. They are based off serial production numbers which gives you the year the bike was produced and when it was bought, it also tracks the date you transfer it to a new owner. All the same info is there versus any other bike, it’s just in a smarter way. I mean now tons of bikes don’t even get titles because people don’t register them to avoid taxes so then you are going off the current owners word. At least on the stark it’s tracked so there are no games to be played.
Model years are mostly a marketing tool created by automotive industry. Lots of other products are identified by manufacturing date but models are common for multiple years of production.
Tommorrows bikes are ideally always better than yesterday's bikes. E-motos have a greater potential to be upgraded with new batteries motors and controllers if the manufacturer wants/can design them that way.
It's a bit weird to not do model years but think about it, they get over the air updates, wether it's a 2022 or 2024 Varg they benefit from all improvements made to the software (extended range, crawl mode, reverse...). Also it's under warranty for 2 years, and warranty transfers to the new owner.
There's nothing to worry about engine internal parts so you can pretty much visually inspect everything you need to know about the frame, wheels, suspensions... I'd say the main "unseen" part when buying an electric is battery life, that's when you need to know the hours of riding. Battery is rated for 500 cycles with less than 20% drop so about 400 h MX and at least 800 h for enduro. Replacement is 3k. Probably worth factoring in the battery replacement if you buy very high hours bike.
An ICE bike's engine that is ridden on the rev limiter, will have more wear than one that is ridden at lower rpm.
The same applies to the Stark's battery, if it's been ridden in deep sand at high speed, battery degradation will be higher than a Stark ridden on a slow tight hard pack track.
Average usage will see a 20% degradation in capacity after 500 charging cycles, but it will vary, depending how the bike has been ridden.
I honestly just wish there was a way to know if an updated model is on the horizon. With model years, you always know what is coming, and we usually know what is new well in advance so you can plan your purchases. With Stark doing versions or whatever they plan to do, at this point you have no idea. It makes it really difficult to decide to buy a current model or wait not having any clue how long you will be waiting.
Stark discounted their MX model several months ago, they have now released an EX model with a larger capacity battery, don't be surprised if they release a MX model with the same battery next year, but they need to sell the old MX stock first.
I emailed asking specific states it is currently road legal in, as their statement of “California and other states will have to wait a little longer” is a little to vague for me. So far I’ve not gotten a reply in 2 days.
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