Best bottom end.

Now we can quickly turn this non moto but the question is out of all the manufacturers who seems to get it right the best as far as transmissions and gearing. I know they all need an extra tooth in the rear but overall who seems to have the best gear to gear power, shifting, gaps in-between gears ect. If there's issues what's do you think would be the fix.

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Titanium
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 4- Stroke? if so then Yamaha

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Now we can quickly turn this non moto but the question is out of all the manufacturers who seems to get it right the best as...

Now we can quickly turn this non moto but the question is out of all the manufacturers who seems to get it right the best as far as transmissions and gearing. I know they all need an extra tooth in the rear but overall who seems to have the best gear to gear power, shifting, gaps in-between gears ect. If there's issues what's do you think would be the fix.

I like the Yamaha wide ratio 5 speed in a 450, plenty of torque to carry the gaps in-between gears.

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Very strong Bottom End, will probably run for hours wide open 

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I was going to vote for Latinas until I realized this was about dirt bikes. Spicy!!! 

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smrscott wrote:
Very strong Bottom End, will probably run for hours wide open 
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Very strong Bottom End, will probably run for hours wide open 

These are the Rev Models, lots of maintenance.......

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Be careful. You might end up blowing a tranny.

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I'd think Stark Varg. Ya

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smrscott wrote:
Very strong Bottom End, will probably run for hours wide open 
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Very strong Bottom End, will probably run for hours wide open 

Looks like they've also had the top end ported and rebuilt!

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smrscott wrote:
Very strong Bottom End, will probably run for hours wide open 
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Very strong Bottom End, will probably run for hours wide open 

Damn,,, was gonna say the one attached to a big booty latina  these are solid options

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Titanium wrote:

 4- Stroke? if so then Yamaha

Yeah over all 4 strokes and for moto. It does seem out of the last few bike generations that yamaha has some solid shifting they hold together with a decent amount of hours. I don't remeber hearing anyone complaining of notch shifting on or off power. Clutch is pretty good to.

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Gearing ratio spread, best in class is Yamaha, particularly in the 250 class.

Strength of bottom end, transmission and crank...Austrian (if we're talking four strokes 250 and 450).

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10/17/2024 7:34am Edited Date/Time 10/17/2024 7:34am

The transmission is not the "bottom end", it is the transmission. They all have a decent transmission. Best bottom end goes to the austrian brand, as much as that pains me to say it. Theres a lot of things that make me never want to own a KTM but their four stroke crankshaft is as good as it gets in terms of reliability and durability. 

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10/17/2024 8:55am Edited Date/Time 10/17/2024 9:05am
EAmato88 wrote:
The transmission is not the "bottom end", it is the transmission. They all have a decent transmission. Best bottom end goes to the austrian brand, as...

The transmission is not the "bottom end", it is the transmission. They all have a decent transmission. Best bottom end goes to the austrian brand, as much as that pains me to say it. Theres a lot of things that make me never want to own a KTM but their four stroke crankshaft is as good as it gets in terms of reliability and durability. 

I agree, with one exception: KTM’s counterbalancer isn’t the best; it’s just a lopsided water pump gear. Most other brands (and KTM’s own 2 strokes!) have a dedicated balance shaft with counterweights on each side. 

Their 4 strokes would be a lot smoother with a dedicated balance shaft. 

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Now we can quickly turn this non moto but the question is out of all the manufacturers who seems to get it right the best as...

Now we can quickly turn this non moto but the question is out of all the manufacturers who seems to get it right the best as far as transmissions and gearing. I know they all need an extra tooth in the rear but overall who seems to have the best gear to gear power, shifting, gaps in-between gears ect. If there's issues what's do you think would be the fix.

When are you going to reply to my PM?

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I have never replaced nor rebuilt the crank on my '06 YZ250, which I bought new in 2006. Still no up/down movement and very little side to side. I've lost count of how many top ends I've done. 

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Falcon wrote:
I have never replaced nor rebuilt the crank on my '06 YZ250, which I bought new in 2006. Still no up/down movement and very little side...

I have never replaced nor rebuilt the crank on my '06 YZ250, which I bought new in 2006. Still no up/down movement and very little side to side. I've lost count of how many top ends I've done. 

Same with my 2005 Yz125. I bought it new, as soon as they were released, and the bottom end is still solid.

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