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I'd have never thought of any of those things as absolutes. When it is day where I am, it is night somewhere else - it is a product of our position relative to the sun, and what is relative is not absolute (I take it that "not relative" is essentially the definition of absolute). Mom and dad are often defined in terms of biology. I'm adopted, and have never met my biological parents so the people I know as mom and dad aren't biologically related to me. It would seem our definition here needs to be rather flexible to accommodate a variety of types of circumstances - again, not absolute. Pacific and Atlantic are just arbitrary names we've assigned to arbitrary divisions in oceans. If we could have done it differently, is it really absolute? A temperature that I find hot someone else might find cold. When I have a fever, I may be shivering in a warm room. And what heat is, is really just the speed at which atoms are jiggling - heat exists in only in our perceptions. The world itself only has atoms that are jiggling faster (which we perceive as hot) and slower (which we perceive as cold). I'd go so far as to say that temperature is a paradigm case (along with color) of something that exists only in our perception, not in the world itself, and thus is completely relative to perception - which again, is exactly the opposite of being an absolute. Infinity (infinitum?) is a mathematical concept that can't exist in the world. Positing an actual infinity produces paradoxes (e.g. Hilbert's hotel).
I apologize if this is all too much. I'm a former philosophy professor and I just couldn't resist.
I believe he said it was his Kawi base. From the context I believe his clothing contracts were additional to that. It also appeared that bonuses would be in addition but I doubt he earned any.
Ok no absolutes. Tell that to your wife when you leave the seat up. Good grief.
They'd probably retire by 25. Basketball, baseball and even football don't have near the injury risk of motocross.
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Yes, AC had a ton of upside should his nagging injuries get resolved. And he remains a fan favorite and someone who's amateur championships probably still draws people to Kawi.
I said that you didn't offer any examples of absolutes - I didn't say there aren't any. Perhaps "thou shalt put the toilet seat down after pissing" is one.
Base from all of his sponsors, not including performance bonuses.
Sounded like he couldn't disclose the breakdown of the 1.8, he was texting with his manager about what all he could say and not get sued, which is the weirdest part to me.
Probably have Confidentiality Clauses in a lot of the contracts.
I don't think so if he's considered a public figure.
I could be wrong though
It’s ridiculous to compare sports & money. Riders always say we risk our lives. They need to stop doing this thousands do not loose there lives each yr, like truckers . I know of drivers that throw a piano on there shoulder & walk in the house. Ovr 100 nfl players couldn’t make it 6 months at Sysco food delivery in Milwaukee. As an IC we work where the money is the best. Not much different than a IC racer. I Love it that Adam did Great money wise . Figure out how many hrs at a race & his contract, Dam impressive #,s. I just think some money needs to b thrown into the pro am races and add another pro class or 2. 125 & stock engine 250f. I dated baseball & nfl players wives & x,s they always freaked oh wow your body . Your in better shape than my x millionaire athlete
Exactly. Pretty much all contracts from OEMs and sponsors have that clause.
I wish Betts would have gotten into more detail about true market value for riders, especially in terms of the gear contracts for the top guys. There's no way some of those top deals pencil out to quantifiable sales
All entertainers hv that in there contracts. I had a few pals that drove them in rock star buses. The marketing behind entertainers is ridiculous. None of them r who you think they r. .50 cent for example quite as a church mouse on the bus that that you swear you don’t hv a passenger. And Very Respectful when he does come up and talk to the driver. Most athletes r The Biggest Dick heads you could ever imagine. A pal of mine drove a nfl player to the airport. And said hv a good flight just being pleasant, none of them r star struck it’s just a job driving someone. The nfl player says f u . My pal said ever speak like that again towards me & you,ll hv your head beaten in. All the bus drivers where truckers a million times tougher than any nfl player.
That’s quite a story
What shocked me more is Steve only pulls down 200k
Matthes has jumped the shark I think. He’s pretty much apathetic to the sport at this point. He seems to just be going through the motions. Not a big gypsy fan either. He has some interesting conversations at times though.
As far as salaries go, they’ll never be public without a riders association.
So apathetic that he used his resources to raise $100k for Privateers again this year.
Fair counter, I listen to enough of his stuff to feel the way I do. And he definitely loves the attention he gets from getting his ‘own’ race.
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Just because he said that doesn’t make it true…..
We have another class, its sx futures. Won't be a stock motor class at the pro level.
Comparing civilian jobs to athletes, actors exc has always been silly. Won't ever be "even".
Very accurate. Steve does a lot of nice things for everyone, just ask him...
FYI, I saw a post about the UFC 307 payout and all the comments were "they should get paid more", including Pereira and Roundtree, who brought home 2.7m and 1.4m respectively.
Seems the collective is tired of the clowns getting the short end, yet they keep watching, liking, and subscribing to the circus.
That's just life. I'm tired of my 7-5 job that doesn't pay $1.8M but I still have to do it to put food on the table...
That’s great because the purse these guys get is still to this day terrible.
Aron Plessinger threw 10k into the 2st race again at muddy creek. 33 or 40 k purse. I would get 50 bucks to make the 42 gate in Mo. i
Nobody is forcing them to be ufc fighters, and they'll get ppv money on the back end too, Pereira for sure as a champ.
If they view that salary as too low, go to the PFL, go to Bellator.
I would argue it would be better if they felt the need to research for more information if they didn't understand something. The fans who catch the bug and seek out more knowledge are the ones we should be trying to attract. Those are the ones who obviously are curious enough to stay around and keep watching into the future.
The comments were made by morans, not the fighters.
And that is with PPV.
Motocross has a higher risk of severe injury but probably a lower incidence of minor injuries.
Athlete income has nothing to do with risk; it's very highly correlated with popularity and broadcast audience exposure, that's it. This mantra that MX riders deserve higher pay is worn out and just not based on any realistic merit.
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