Most impressive rides of the MxDN

10/7/2024 10:54am

Tigga is a fast aggressive racer who never gives up, Jett learnt another lesson in the last moto.

On the last lap Jett was in the lead, thought he had broken Tim and backed it down, Tim was way closer than expected, he took advantage and burst through with a strong block pass.

Both showed the world that they are above everyone else.

 

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10/7/2024 11:17am
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Some riders who don't get a place in the spotlight but I believe do earn it: Kārlis Reišulis, Enzo Lopes, Conrad Mewse, Mikkel Haarup, Julius Mikula.

Mewse broke his ankle early on in his 2nd race
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10/7/2024 11:35am

I mean it is hard to beat the last race from Gajser. But i was also impressed by Tomac all weekend as well as just how fast Lucas Coenen was in that opening race until his crash.

Marcel Stauffer continued to impress me all weekend, he's had a remarkable season considering how bad his injury was in the off season.

All three Brazilian guys did well but particularly Lopes and Santos. The tiny Japanese 250 rider Haruki Yokoyama was also good, particularly on the last few corners of the B final where he made two great passes.

Andrea Adamo had pretty much no impact on the event. Josiah Natzke was also disappointing in his qualifier and then in the second half of the B final, was this the reason they initially selected an Aussie for that spot instead? I follow our sport in Portugal reasonably closely due to the time i spend over in the country and they also struggled a lot, Paulo Alberto usually really ups his game for this event but looked like he struggled with the track all weekend.

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i think you are massively underselling de Wolf. First of all, Coenens laptimes where not that much fasters, this wasnt seconds a lap faster, after lap...

i think you are massively underselling de Wolf. First of all, Coenens laptimes where not that much fasters, this wasnt seconds a lap faster, after lap 2 he only gained 5,5 seconds on de Wolff in the rest of the race before he crashed. Second of all, de Wolf held it together for 2 motos whereas Coenen crashed himself out. I found it an extremely mature ride by Kay which got NL on the podium.   

i was also impressed by Fernandez. Hopefully he can be healthy for a full season next year, 

 

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What I meant when I say it’s rude in my post is that it’s probably rude of me that Kay won the title and is a...

What I meant when I say it’s rude in my post is that it’s probably rude of me that Kay won the title and is a deserving champion but the trajectory of Lucas is next level. At 17 is where Kay is at 19/20 but faster. Crashes happen at these events with 250s pushing so much. It happened to AC after winning 6 450 titles in a row in 2014 while gaining on the leaders. 

Fernandez is legit, I’m not that surprised that he did as well as he did. 

ah ok, yeah i think i agree with you. Coenen is so good and much younger. I just hope that he keeps his head together. 

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Coenen langenfelder and DeWolf impressed me on the 250s , the way coenen was catching prado tomac etc on a 250 was insane , Haarups speed was there to just crashes. 

450s mewse surprised me , dos santos was impressive and Gajser ( although you know he can be impressive that was quiet something )  
 

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10/7/2024 12:23pm

Gasjer made the biggest statement. I expect him to win the title next year.

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For me, it was two riders I’d never seen ride (watched on the tv), Ruben Fernandez and Kay De Wolf (should be sponsored by Wulfsport)….EnglandMXNAtions06 188

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10/7/2024 12:58pm
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Mewse broke his ankle early on in his 2nd race

Mewes had a great weekend was outside the top 20 in Moto 2 and rode up to 6th, like you said he broke a bone in his ankle early in 2nd Moto and soldiered on!

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10/7/2024 12:58pm
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Without Webster holding his own on Sunday Australia doesn't claim victory. He was brilliant. Imagine the pressure the guy was feeling being the 3rd guy in THAT...

Without Webster holding his own on Sunday Australia doesn't claim victory. He was brilliant. 

Imagine the pressure the guy was feeling being the 3rd guy in THAT lineup. 

Yeah, like Justin Cooper at Red Bud in '22. Everybody putting him down due to few bad national results and the guy anchored the team.

It's not your best result that matters the most in this event, it is your least bad. Ton of pressure to not be "that guy" that ruined your team results.

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10/7/2024 1:10pm
Prado was by & far was the most unimpressive rider of the weekend. Coming of a dominant season & back to back GP titles & he...

Prado was by & far was the most unimpressive rider of the weekend. Coming of a dominant season & back to back GP titles & he did nothing come the main races. 

Herlings, I didn’t expect him to win. He’s been playing second fiddle to Prado & Gajser all year, I didn’t expect him to be any different at the weekend. 

The whole USA team impressed me, Tomac with his clutch rides & with decent rides from AP & CW. They came close to winning. 

After Lewis’ interview with Jorge on Friday, it didn’t convince me he was going to perform on Sunday. 
Statements like: 

“Goal for the year was achieved”

“Relax & enjoy”

“Be realistic”

“No riding this week”

It just felt like he wasn’t fussed. 
He’d probably been partying a bit last week.

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Honourable mention to Hamish Harwood! This guy is basically a privateer that works for a living in New Zealand. Qualifies 14th in the mxgp class then rides he’s balls off to 3rd in the B final to only be let down by an imploding team mate

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10/7/2024 1:17pm Edited Date/Time 10/7/2024 1:19pm
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Well on a slightly lesser level, how about Conrad Mewse going from 17th to 6th in the second race?Also the Brazilian rider Fabio Aparecido dos Santos...

Well on a slightly lesser level, how about Conrad Mewse going from 17th to 6th in the second race?

Also the Brazilian rider Fabio Aparecido dos Santos. He was running top 5 for about half the open qualifying race and still finished in 10th.

Conrad was on rails great to see him show his real potential on the big stage.

23rd to 6th 💪

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Hard negatory NO on your post.  

The biggest fail in it is that you decided it somehow made sense to dog on AP after he put in two solid races that allowed us to podium the event when lot of folks had written the USA off for getting on the podium. 

Proud of each guy for putting in the time and effort to represent their country. 

 

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10/7/2024 2:20pm Edited Date/Time 10/7/2024 2:21pm
The whole race was legendary. We will never get all these greats on the track at the same time.Tomac killed it. Not racing motocross in two...

The whole race was legendary. We will never get all these greats on the track at the same time.

Tomac killed it. Not racing motocross in two years, coming off injury and to run up front for 20 minutes is impressive. He was just as fast Gajser and Jett. I think once he realized AP wasn’t moving forward there wasn’t much to gain by going Gajser’s pace. He and Jett were on the ragged edge. 

AP was disappointing. I don’t think he moved forward at all. He got gifted a bunch of positions in the last moto. Febvre and Roczen were both in front him. He looked uncomfortable, his bike setup looked terrible. Would love to hear what DV thinks because it looked like the KTM was beating the shit out of him. I like AP but he just doesn’t perform well under pressure. Some guys thrive in it, he’s not that guy.

Webb put a good moto in and I think he was catching AP. Would have been cool to win it for him, since they got robbed that year JA21 got landed on.

Tomac is 32 years old, it just makes it that much more impressive.  He’s almost 10 years older than Jett and Prado. 4 years older than Gajser. 

 

Eli rode well, better than I expected and about where was in SMX relative to Jett and Hunter.

Disagree that he was as fast as Jett and Gajser - if he was gapped by 17 seconds in moto 3 and if he’d stayed with them and got ahead of both at the finish then USA would have tied for first.

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Tomac - as crazy as it may sound might have had the most impressive rides of the day. I said this in a different topic, but...

Tomac - as crazy as it may sound might have had the most impressive rides of the day. I said this in a different topic, but this was Tomacs third MX race in the last two years and he handled Prado, Herlings and Hunter Lawerence to name a few. He had the raw pace but just couldn’t hold it the entire time as to be expected coming off of two injuries in back to back years. Races like this prove that some guys just have it and most don’t. Tomac is in the former. Kind of like watching Roczen in the opening laps, we know he is not even close to 100 percent, watching him in the opening laps old and beating down is something to behold. Prado is not the sprinting king Roczen shows it all the time. 

Gajser just had his Everts moment, no one gives a shit or ever mentions Everts 10 titles or any of his 101 GP wins. He passed a second hand Stew, yeah I said it, that’s his career highlight without a doubt. Well 5 time world champ Gajser who is two crashes away from being a 7 time world champ just had his Everts moment. I’m a massive Gajser fan and I struggle to think of his greatest race. Valkenswaad one year he put 45 seconds on Herlings in a moto but didn’t win the O/A. Gajser got passed by Jett and rode on the absolute edge and blitzed Jett at the last corner to steal all the glory for himself. Like RC in 03, Everts in 06. Their teams lost but they won the battle. 

Jett, He is the best racer in the world and it’s more and more obvious. Weather it’s a SX, MX or SMX he is the over whelming favorite to win that given event. He was the only one up front in Moto3 that gave away the top gate pick, this is a TEAM race after all and it cost him the overall in the end. It don’t matter Australia won and going into Ironman MxDN next year it’s going to be who in the hell can beat Jett. He came off of an injury that took Tomac out for much longer and looked like he had hardly missed a beat. He might be Australian but the USA is his house, pray for everyone next year at Ironman on his turf, his goal is to embarrass the world in 2025.

Lucas Conen - (Spell check) He is arguably the fastest 250 MX rider in the world. Him or Deegs. It seems rude that Kay won the MX2 title but Lucas is the one with that next level speed and in that moto before his crash he was showing it. The names that he was passing on his 250 and catching is unreal. Hopefully Him and Deegan is the new Roczen and Tomac. 

Disappointments - AP, He does not bring his A game to Europe. Jett, Hunter and Tomac showed the pace is good, real good in the states but he just can’t bring it. 

Prado - Always seemed to be moving back, the only time he had fight was when he was about to be passed by a 250. 

Vialle - The Star of France last year was awful this year. 

Who else did I miss. Agree or disagree? 


 

I thought Gajser was most impressive with his 1-1 in the MXGP class. Kay de Wolf was flying as well in MX2. 

Jett stepped up and pulled his team as did Tomac. Impressive rides by several riders. 

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10/7/2024 2:53pm

Gasjer and Jett wouldve been a different outcome if the The Trophy wasn’t on the line in the last moto. 
Plus Jett went back to back, took the worst gate and had to fight through from further back. 
Im a massive Tim fan, but reality is Tim was fresher and nothing to lose going for it.

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Gasjer and Jett wouldve been a different outcome if the The Trophy wasn’t on the line in the last moto. Plus Jett went back to back, took...

Gasjer and Jett wouldve been a different outcome if the The Trophy wasn’t on the line in the last moto. 
Plus Jett went back to back, took the worst gate and had to fight through from further back. 
Im a massive Tim fan, but reality is Tim was fresher and nothing to lose going for it.

Jett was going for it as well. He had no idea the team locked it up. Moments after the race when he congratulated Tim, he asked if they (Team Australia) won it. 

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10/7/2024 3:59pm

Kyle Webster. 

I honestly thought he would be the weak link and make Australia falter. But he held his composure under intense pressure...

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10/7/2024 4:23pm
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I agree with a lot of things you said, but AP impressed me to be honest. I expected more from Reneaux and Febvre, they usually step...

I agree with a lot of things you said, but AP impressed me to be honest. I expected more from Reneaux and Febvre, they usually step up at their MXON performances, Vialle too.

Prado seemed like he gave in after Fernandez crashed, he will leave to test SX soon.

As a Dutchie, I hoped (and expected) to have Herlings up front with Gajser, Jett and Tomac during the final moto. Matterly is not his greatest track (even though he had that legendary battle with Cairoli a few years back) and I think he was riding a bit tight. Coldenhoff did have some bad luck, but he didn't show the raw speed either. 

The race itself was awesome. I loved seeing Tomac up front and pulling the holeshot in moto 3, he looked pissed off after the moto though! Gajser beating Jett was something I didn't expect. If you don't know him, please watch his vlogs. Such a likeable guy and a true humble sportman, whom really appreciates his fans

I believe Eli is pissed because he knows his stamina isn’t what it once was.

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Tigga is a fast aggressive racer who never gives up, Jett learnt another lesson in the last moto.On the last lap Jett was in the lead...

Tigga is a fast aggressive racer who never gives up, Jett learnt another lesson in the last moto.

On the last lap Jett was in the lead, thought he had broken Tim and backed it down, Tim was way closer than expected, he took advantage and burst through with a strong block pass.

Both showed the world that they are above everyone else.

 

Yea one thing about Tim is he has a lot of james stewart in him, as in hes willing to put it all on the line and ride wayyyyy over his head in order to win… or crash. Thats why he has some of the most spectacular crashes over the years. Surprisingly though hes one of those guys who can have some absolutely massive get offs and not get injured very much, kind of like deegan. (Was it the neck brace? Lol prob not) Watching guys like that race is always super exciting because riding on the ragged edge does translate through the tv how fast theyre going. 

Watching jett also have to hit that ragged edge was awesome he had some massive saves. It really did remind me about what was so special about watching james and rc race, both of them would be riding as hard as they posdibly could and making mistakes everywhere and just pushing even harder. You really could tell those guys were at the limit and we saw it with jett and tiga. I wish we got to see two guys putting it all on the line like that more often. What an awesome race that was, one for the ages!

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10/7/2024 5:04pm

Great re-hash.

Yes, Jett Lawrence is far and away THE best on the planet, with an honorable mention to TG.

AP was not a disappointment, he gave solid races. Coop raced his ass off considering being on a 250 and the family growing, etc. But he fought hard on that last section to keep off the extra point. Tomac led the way, and did really good, let's face it he's in his 30's,...I believe he did the best he possibly could have. That we came in 2nd is pretty dam good.

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10/7/2024 5:13pm

Coenan passing most of the top 450 guys on a 250 before he crashed was also badass! 

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10/7/2024 9:53pm
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Some riders who don't get a place in the spotlight but I believe do earn it: Kārlis Reišulis, Enzo Lopes, Conrad Mewse, Mikkel Haarup, Julius Mikula.

I didn't even pay attention to Mikkel Haarup going down on the start due to Guillod crashing in front of him. He came back to 10th, god damn!!

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Coenan passing most of the top 450 guys on a 250 before he crashed was also badass! 

I'm gonna be honest, I or we know that Kenny is still having issues with his knee or fitness and is just trying to race himself back to shape, but it still didn't sit well with me that Coenen and De Wolf just blew by him. 🤣

Both Coenen and De Wolf were impressive to race forward in this field, Coenen definitely has the early Herlings win or die mentality and it bit him.

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10/7/2024 11:46pm
DeStouwer wrote:

Some riders who don't get a place in the spotlight but I believe do earn it: Kārlis Reišulis, Enzo Lopes, Conrad Mewse, Mikkel Haarup, Julius Mikula.

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And Alberto Forato 

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Forato was incredible. Qualifying and the motos, just catching Roczen like it's no problem, and after missing pretty much the entire year. I was not expecting...

Forato was incredible. Qualifying and the motos, just catching Roczen like it's no problem, and after missing pretty much the entire year. I was not expecting that.

An others Italian side, Adamo - last year World champ - was unvisible. Our great Julius Mikula nearly matched his speed.

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10/7/2024 11:57pm Edited Date/Time 10/8/2024 12:25am

My vote definitly goes to Karlis Reisulis.

I would have never expected a season like that from him. I always thought Janis (his younger brother) would have an amazing first 250 season after the speed he showed on the 125 last year, and would shadow his most experienced older brother quickly. In the end, Janis got injured and was off the entire year, and Karlis had some decent EMX250 results before jumping to MX2 midway through the season and showing some top 5 speed, which was definitly unexpected.

His sunday at Matterley was great, winning B class on the 250 in front of Isak Gifting was already a feat in itself, but racing the next two motos to finishing 2nd 250 in front of Laengenfelder, Vialle, Haarup etc... wth ? Props to him, I was very very surprise.

 

Other than that, the battle between Tiga and Jett was great. Does that make Tim the fastest in the world ? Nope, just like Jeffrey said, Tim id usually very very good here and he beat Prado/Herlings on sunday, that doesn't mean he would do it in other conditions. I would say Tim is an awesome racer (one of my very favorite in MXGP, I've met him a couple times and he is not only damn good on the track, he is also one of the most simple and kind pilot), but this was his best performance of the year and one of the best of his life. While Jett had a great great ride, but it is more common to see him ride like this. I would say Eli, Tim, Jeffrey, Jorge, Chase and Romain are more or less the same speed (Jorge a tiny bit better this year though) while Hunter is closing on this group, and Jett is over them. And another fact that should tell us how good Jett is, even though he was surprised by Tim on the next to last turn, Jett had passed in that race : Herlings, Roczen, Seewer, Febvre, Tomac, Tim, Prado and Hunter. All of these guys combined have 28 titles (regional, national and world). Would Tiga have been able to passe Jett if the roles were reverse ? If JL starts top 4, the race is done after 10 minutes.

 

Honorable mentions : De Wolf/Coenen, Haarup, Laengenfelder, Webster, Lopes and Mewse.

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10/8/2024 1:02am

I have to say it again, this was the best raceday I have watched from home, ever, that goes back to 1979.

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10/8/2024 1:38am Edited Date/Time 10/8/2024 1:47am

Overall most impressive, Gajser and Coenen edge it for me overall, Gajser going 1 in the first Moto looking very comfortable and  and obviously 1 in the toughest race and the pass etc 

Coenen showed amazing speed and was clearly faster than Vialle in the qualifier using Tom as a yardstick easily running him down on Saturday and passing so many top 450 guys on Sunday, gutted he crashed as it robbed us of seeing what he could do in race 2

 

Reisulis is up there too, ET for only doing something like 5 races coming into this and that holeshot and running upfront, but also impressive for many reasons was Febvre, he should get some credit, amazing speed in Moto 1 as he ran down Tomac but a rock in the eye from being so close denied him the pass and put an end to him seeing properly, he almost didn't race the 2nd Moto, hardly being able to see out of one eye may well have caused that crash 

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10/8/2024 4:20am

Great comebacks from Mikkel and Ruben 😃

Haarup, last to 10th in race two.

Fernández, 30 to 12th in race three.

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