Las Vegas SMX Track Design

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Just looked over the SMX track design for the SMX final and who's idea was it to host these events at drag strips? Concrete barriers separating rhythm lane sides, jump faces build into concrete barriers, corners over concrete barriers. Hopefully the dirt holds up and these things won't be poking up out of corners god forbid any riders smack into one. If ever there was a time for a riders union to form, now would be an excellent time...

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9/17/2024 7:50am
Just looked over the SMX track design for the SMX final and who's idea was it to host these events at drag strips? Concrete barriers separating...

Just looked over the SMX track design for the SMX final and who's idea was it to host these events at drag strips? Concrete barriers separating rhythm lane sides, jump faces build into concrete barriers, corners over concrete barriers. Hopefully the dirt holds up and these things won't be poking up out of corners god forbid any riders smack into one. If ever there was a time for a riders union to form, now would be an excellent time...

I blame MXGP. Started with what? Assen and then North Carolina?

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9/17/2024 11:25am

Renting "The Strip" at LVMS is a lot cheaper than doing it in the NASCAR oval. 

Also over the years, LVMS has been doing less and less in the oval as other portions of the complex have built up.

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9/17/2024 12:48pm Edited Date/Time 9/17/2024 12:58pm
mattyhamz2 wrote:

I blame MXGP. Started with what? Assen and then North Carolina?

The mxgp in north carolina was not at the drag strip.

It was at the dirttrack facility in between the nascar track and the drag strip.

They probably have the smx race at the dragstrip because it has stands on both sides and seats at least twice as many.

I have no problem with the track crossing the barriers as long as they have enough dirt over them.

I am betting feld will come up with some kind of portable padding by next year. Like a u shaped tough block.

Then people who start 20 new threads about the same thing can complain about the over under bridges or something else.

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mattyhamz2 wrote:

I blame MXGP. Started with what? Assen and then North Carolina?

JustMX wrote:
The mxgp in north carolina was not at the drag strip.It was at the dirttrack facility in between the nascar track and the drag strip.They probably...

The mxgp in north carolina was not at the drag strip.

It was at the dirttrack facility in between the nascar track and the drag strip.

They probably have the smx race at the dragstrip because it has stands on both sides and seats at least twice as many.

I have no problem with the track crossing the barriers as long as they have enough dirt over them.

I am betting feld will come up with some kind of portable padding by next year. Like a u shaped tough block.

Then people who start 20 new threads about the same thing can complain about the over under bridges or something else.

I was more-so saying NC because of the jumps that went over the barriers. I agree with you as long as they have enough dirt over them.

Those were just the first two places I thought of that included concrete barriers.

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They roped us all in with that cool race at the LA Coliseum last year.  Then mailed it in this year with not one, but 2 ridiculous hard packed tracks .  Nothing hybrid or safety conscious about them.  Feld and MXSports only care about $$.  Great the riders make some dough, but these 3 races are not necessary.  Crown a Grand National champ after the last national and payout then

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SCIENCE wrote:
They roped us all in with that cool race at the LA Coliseum last year.  Then mailed it in this year with not one, but 2...

They roped us all in with that cool race at the LA Coliseum last year.  Then mailed it in this year with not one, but 2 ridiculous hard packed tracks .  Nothing hybrid or safety conscious about them.  Feld and MXSports only care about $$.  Great the riders make some dough, but these 3 races are not necessary.  Crown a Grand National champ after the last national and payout then

Couldn’t agree more just have the 2 championships that actually mean something and put the purse in to them , don’t get me wrong 450 moto1 was good but these tracks are awful to watch , focus on what we’ve got not this crap 👍

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9/17/2024 2:47pm
SCIENCE wrote:
They roped us all in with that cool race at the LA Coliseum last year.  Then mailed it in this year with not one, but 2...

They roped us all in with that cool race at the LA Coliseum last year.  Then mailed it in this year with not one, but 2 ridiculous hard packed tracks .  Nothing hybrid or safety conscious about them.  Feld and MXSports only care about $$.  Great the riders make some dough, but these 3 races are not necessary.  Crown a Grand National champ after the last national and payout then

We’re about to have a 3rd, very hard packed track. 

Hope the boys practiced at Elsinore this week 🤓

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9/17/2024 2:51pm

Not sure where to find the info but will this one be a daytime event as well? As a viewer I love watching mid afternoon, but it’s a lot easier to keep moisture in these tracks after dark for the riders safety and viewers sake.  You’d think in cities like Texas and LV they’d have factored that into the equation 

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Not sure where to find the info but will this one be a daytime event as well? As a viewer I love watching mid afternoon, but...

Not sure where to find the info but will this one be a daytime event as well? As a viewer I love watching mid afternoon, but it’s a lot easier to keep moisture in these tracks after dark for the riders safety and viewers sake.  You’d think in cities like Texas and LV they’d have factored that into the equation 

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SCIENCE wrote:
They roped us all in with that cool race at the LA Coliseum last year.  Then mailed it in this year with not one, but 2...

They roped us all in with that cool race at the LA Coliseum last year.  Then mailed it in this year with not one, but 2 ridiculous hard packed tracks .  Nothing hybrid or safety conscious about them.  Feld and MXSports only care about $$.  Great the riders make some dough, but these 3 races are not necessary.  Crown a Grand National champ after the last national and payout then

...the Coliseum should be the finale every year. 

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9/17/2024 3:51pm
SCIENCE wrote:
They roped us all in with that cool race at the LA Coliseum last year.  Then mailed it in this year with not one, but 2...

They roped us all in with that cool race at the LA Coliseum last year.  Then mailed it in this year with not one, but 2 ridiculous hard packed tracks .  Nothing hybrid or safety conscious about them.  Feld and MXSports only care about $$.  Great the riders make some dough, but these 3 races are not necessary.  Crown a Grand National champ after the last national and payout then

Magoofan wrote:

...the Coliseum should be the finale every year. 

USC football needs to have two consecutive weeks of road games for that to happen. 

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Not sure where to find the info but will this one be a daytime event as well? As a viewer I love watching mid afternoon, but...

Not sure where to find the info but will this one be a daytime event as well? As a viewer I love watching mid afternoon, but it’s a lot easier to keep moisture in these tracks after dark for the riders safety and viewers sake.  You’d think in cities like Texas and LV they’d have factored that into the equation 

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Lmfao they don’t even put the 250 all stars in the middle of the night shows, yet they did with the superminis & 65s. 

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SCIENCE wrote:
They roped us all in with that cool race at the LA Coliseum last year.  Then mailed it in this year with not one, but 2...

They roped us all in with that cool race at the LA Coliseum last year.  Then mailed it in this year with not one, but 2 ridiculous hard packed tracks .  Nothing hybrid or safety conscious about them.  Feld and MXSports only care about $$.  Great the riders make some dough, but these 3 races are not necessary.  Crown a Grand National champ after the last national and payout then

Magoofan wrote:

...the Coliseum should be the finale every year. 

1911 wrote:

USC football needs to have two consecutive weeks of road games for that to happen. 

Who cares about football.... 😜

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9/17/2024 4:14pm

I'm so confused...do we hate when they groom the shit out of tracks, or do we hate hardpack? 

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SCIENCE wrote:
They roped us all in with that cool race at the LA Coliseum last year.  Then mailed it in this year with not one, but 2...

They roped us all in with that cool race at the LA Coliseum last year.  Then mailed it in this year with not one, but 2 ridiculous hard packed tracks .  Nothing hybrid or safety conscious about them.  Feld and MXSports only care about $$.  Great the riders make some dough, but these 3 races are not necessary.  Crown a Grand National champ after the last national and payout then

64smoker wrote:
Couldn’t agree more just have the 2 championships that actually mean something and put the purse in to them , don’t get me wrong 450 moto1...

Couldn’t agree more just have the 2 championships that actually mean something and put the purse in to them , don’t get me wrong 450 moto1 was good but these tracks are awful to watch , focus on what we’ve got not this crap 👍

The extra money isn't there without the SMX finals....people forget that this was NBC's idea and not feld/MXSports they asked for it to provide the money for the broadcast rights 

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Sully wrote:

I'm so confused...do we hate when they groom the shit out of tracks, or do we hate hardpack? 

Whatever they do, we hate it. 

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NicNak wrote:

Lmfao they don’t even put the 250 all stars in the middle of the night shows, yet they did with the superminis & 65s. 

Yep, especially since the 250 all stars are turning pro in the next year or two, i just hope it’s televised and not 3 minute highlights not showing much action that we know was there but couldn’t see.

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Sully wrote:

I'm so confused...do we hate when they groom the shit out of tracks, or do we hate hardpack? 

We hate everything. 

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At first I was skeptical on the drag strip track idea, but I went last year and this year to Z Max and I like it better than the speedways, comparing to the two I've been to, Daytona and Atlanta. The viewing is better, the outdoor (parking lot) sections are cool to watch, more like a National, I hope they keep at least one at Z Max, and add some padding to the concrete barriers. 

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Sully wrote:

I'm so confused...do we hate when they groom the shit out of tracks, or do we hate hardpack? 

aeffertz wrote:

Whatever they do, we hate it. 

Funny, and sad, but true. The most vocal posters seem to hate everything about this sport from the tracks to the promoters, sanctioning bodies, racing equipment, TV broadcast, industry podcasts, amateur racing, pro racing, motorcycle brands (except Suzuki), and on and on. Yet these are the same people that frequent a motocross enthusiast forum all day every day and kill half a weekend in front of the TV watching practice and qualifying and the pre-show and the race and the post-show.  Don't get it.

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Sully wrote:

I'm so confused...do we hate when they groom the shit out of tracks, or do we hate hardpack? 

We hate everything. 

With a smile on our face.

9/18/2024 8:48am
Magoofan wrote:

...the Coliseum should be the finale every year. 

Ironman MX should have been the FInale..

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My dream SMX Finals:

Round 1: Daytona Speedway

Round 2: Los Angeles Coliseum

Round 3: Allegiant Stadium Las Vegas

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