Mxgp in big trouble

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Edited Date/Time 7/29/2024 12:30am

If nothing changes and all the rumors come out and all futere star riders go to america  .....vialle is al ready in america prado is going....the coenen brothers and kay de wolf and maybe a few others.... also have plans to go........now they still have herlings....gasjer and febre hopefully they will race for a few more years but if they stop ..... then the world championship will be a joke  

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Spoiler alert: things change. And not all rumors become facts.

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MXGP was in trouble when Joel Robert retired . . . and Mikkola, then DeCoster retired . . . all was lost it seemed except when Malherbe, then Thorpe, and Jobe filled the championship throne. 

Remember a kid named Stephen Everts who surpassed all mxgp champions before him, including his father!

There will always be a new generation of MXGP champions ready to fill the void of past champions to keep the world title chase relevant.

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tmphotoart wrote:
MXGP was in trouble when Joel Robert retired . . . and Mikkola, then DeCoster retired . . . all was lost it seemed except when...

MXGP was in trouble when Joel Robert retired . . . and Mikkola, then DeCoster retired . . . all was lost it seemed except when Malherbe, then Thorpe, and Jobe filled the championship throne. 

Remember a kid named Stephen Everts who surpassed all mxgp champions before him, including his father!

There will always be a new generation of MXGP champions ready to fill the void of past champions to keep the world title chase relevant.

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In the 70s no one went to america in the 80s jmb ...that european riders go to amerca is from the last years..in the 70s also one pierre karsmakers.........

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Not so long ago they didn't need european riders in america when there was plenty of talent that has also changed...

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There's an argument that MXGP as is right now should be allowed to die, in order for a series that looks to grow the sport not milk it for all its possible worth to replace it... Suffice to say, if I was a rider in MXGP right now or even a team, I'm not sure I'd want to stay either. 

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7/29/2024 3:41am Edited Date/Time 7/29/2024 3:43am

USMX is even worse off.

according to some the entire future of the sport here depends on someone called "danger boy"..

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tmphotoart wrote:
MXGP was in trouble when Joel Robert retired . . . and Mikkola, then DeCoster retired . . . all was lost it seemed except when...

MXGP was in trouble when Joel Robert retired . . . and Mikkola, then DeCoster retired . . . all was lost it seemed except when Malherbe, then Thorpe, and Jobe filled the championship throne. 

Remember a kid named Stephen Everts who surpassed all mxgp champions before him, including his father!

There will always be a new generation of MXGP champions ready to fill the void of past champions to keep the world title chase relevant.

s1200 s600 12299372 10207861147747775 8430126679585743835 nScreenshot 2023-04-07 015636Motopark-GP-pic7w.jpg?VersionId=m4fZvH6r1IsWaluh

Top pic is Gaillifontaine in France . Was there in 1980 for the 500 GP. Unbelievable atmosphere and the biggest crowd I’ve ever seen. 

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7/29/2024 3:48am

But Steve Matthes got cock in Italy courtesy of Luongo Mafioso. So as expected the GP criticism has ceased. 
Cereal Box journalist. 

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tmphotoart wrote:
MXGP was in trouble when Joel Robert retired . . . and Mikkola, then DeCoster retired . . . all was lost it seemed except when...

MXGP was in trouble when Joel Robert retired . . . and Mikkola, then DeCoster retired . . . all was lost it seemed except when Malherbe, then Thorpe, and Jobe filled the championship throne. 

Remember a kid named Stephen Everts who surpassed all mxgp champions before him, including his father!

There will always be a new generation of MXGP champions ready to fill the void of past champions to keep the world title chase relevant.

s1200 s600 12299372 10207861147747775 8430126679585743835 nScreenshot 2023-04-07 015636Motopark-GP-pic7w.jpg?VersionId=m4fZvH6r1IsWaluh

I miss the days when you could actually get close (ish) to the tracks. So happy they traded that for 2 miles of Acerbis banners (no offense Acerbis).

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every year its the same thing, americans start rumors about all the good euro racers going to america.....on the end its like one racer every couple of years going after the supercross challenge.....

if all those rumors were to be true, euros would take over america and their riders would go to unemployment, there is just so many factory rides there.......and if there is a good thing about youth system in europe, is the constant renewal of talent coming from the emx series....

dont worry, we will be fine for the near future atleast....every year "those" americans, that have that "only in america" agenda, will be starting those rumors because  thats how they recognize the talent those euro kids have.......

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rileymx wrote:
every year its the same thing, americans start rumors about all the good euro racers going to america.....on the end its like one racer every couple...

every year its the same thing, americans start rumors about all the good euro racers going to america.....on the end its like one racer every couple of years going after the supercross challenge.....

if all those rumors were to be true, euros would take over america and their riders would go to unemployment, there is just so many factory rides there.......and if there is a good thing about youth system in europe, is the constant renewal of talent coming from the emx series....

dont worry, we will be fine for the near future atleast....every year "those" americans, that have that "only in america" agenda, will be starting those rumors because  thats how they recognize the talent those euro kids have.......

An America dude definitely stole this dude's woman...I can just taste the bitterness through his post.

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Well, Vialle left, Ferrandis left, Roczen left, Musquin left, Tortelli left, I could go on forever, still MXGP is going strong. The real question is why are American teams choosing to sign European talent instead of American talent? Who are the future American stars? Deegan and …

You should probably worry about that first 

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From what I am seeing on the MXGP replays those top MX2 guys can't keep off the ground. I am not sure that is going to work in the US.

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tmphotoart wrote:
MXGP was in trouble when Joel Robert retired . . . and Mikkola, then DeCoster retired . . . all was lost it seemed except when...

MXGP was in trouble when Joel Robert retired . . . and Mikkola, then DeCoster retired . . . all was lost it seemed except when Malherbe, then Thorpe, and Jobe filled the championship throne. 

Remember a kid named Stephen Everts who surpassed all mxgp champions before him, including his father!

There will always be a new generation of MXGP champions ready to fill the void of past champions to keep the world title chase relevant.

s1200 s600 12299372 10207861147747775 8430126679585743835 nScreenshot 2023-04-07 015636Motopark-GP-pic7w.jpg?VersionId=m4fZvH6r1IsWaluh
mxxxeR1 wrote:
In the 70s no one went to america in the 80s jmb ...that european riders go to amerca is from the last years..in the 70s also...

In the 70s no one went to america in the 80s jmb ...that european riders go to amerca is from the last years..in the 70s also one pierre karsmakers.........

(Pierre Karsmakers has entered the chat.)

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7/29/2024 6:42am
RG437 wrote:
Well, Vialle left, Ferrandis left, Roczen left, Musquin left, Tortelli left, I could go on forever, still MXGP is going strong. The real question is why...

Well, Vialle left, Ferrandis left, Roczen left, Musquin left, Tortelli left, I could go on forever, still MXGP is going strong. The real question is why are American teams choosing to sign European talent instead of American talent? Who are the future American stars? Deegan and …

You should probably worry about that first 

Exactly. Europe has so much talent in can afford to share some. 

Where USA is predominantly a privateer series. 

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7/29/2024 6:46am Edited Date/Time 7/29/2024 6:48am
RG437 wrote:
Well, Vialle left, Ferrandis left, Roczen left, Musquin left, Tortelli left, I could go on forever, still MXGP is going strong. The real question is why...

Well, Vialle left, Ferrandis left, Roczen left, Musquin left, Tortelli left, I could go on forever, still MXGP is going strong. The real question is why are American teams choosing to sign European talent instead of American talent? Who are the future American stars? Deegan and …

You should probably worry about that first 

If you count all the teams we have…all the available positions for riders? 

Well, it’s like this…over here in the U.S. …some examples…

HRC Honda 2 450 & 2 250

Monster Kawasaki 2 450

Monster Pro Circuit Kawasaki 4 250

Star Yamaha 3 450 & 4-5 250

Red Bull KTM 2 450 & 1-2 250 

Rockstar Husqvarna 2 450 & 1-2 250

Red Bull GasGas 1 450 & 2-250

Triumph 4 250 & 2 450 by 2026

HEP Suzuki 3 450 

Ducati in 2025-26….

In addition to all of that we’ve got several support teams like Ferrandis at Phoenix Racing or FirePower Honda…etc.

There’s A LOT of opportunity over here and sometimes the smart play for the teams, well…the best rider available might come from outside the U.S.A. …as shown with the recent signing of Prado to Monster Kawasaki. 

There are plenty of opportunities over here…for good riders to make really good money. That’s all there is to it. 

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RG437 wrote:
Well, Vialle left, Ferrandis left, Roczen left, Musquin left, Tortelli left, I could go on forever, still MXGP is going strong. The real question is why...

Well, Vialle left, Ferrandis left, Roczen left, Musquin left, Tortelli left, I could go on forever, still MXGP is going strong. The real question is why are American teams choosing to sign European talent instead of American talent? Who are the future American stars? Deegan and …

You should probably worry about that first 

... Drew Adams...

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EMX is continually churning out new talent so no danger MXGP is going to run out of good riders going to USA.

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mxxxeR1 wrote:
If nothing changes and all the rumors come out and all futere star riders go to america  .....vialle is al ready in america prado is going....the...

If nothing changes and all the rumors come out and all futere star riders go to america  .....vialle is al ready in america prado is going....the coenen brothers and kay de wolf and maybe a few others.... also have plans to go........now they still have herlings....gasjer and febre hopefully they will race for a few more years but if they stop ..... then the world championship will be a joke  

Go watch yesterdays race and tell me they are in trouble!! They will be fine🍺🍺

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rileymx wrote:
every year its the same thing, americans start rumors about all the good euro racers going to america.....on the end its like one racer every couple...

every year its the same thing, americans start rumors about all the good euro racers going to america.....on the end its like one racer every couple of years going after the supercross challenge.....

if all those rumors were to be true, euros would take over america and their riders would go to unemployment, there is just so many factory rides there.......and if there is a good thing about youth system in europe, is the constant renewal of talent coming from the emx series....

dont worry, we will be fine for the near future atleast....every year "those" americans, that have that "only in america" agenda, will be starting those rumors because  thats how they recognize the talent those euro kids have.......

Man you make up some wild shit. Prado has already signed his US contract. Lucas Mirtl (Aussie) confirmed the Coenens are coming to America no later than '26. Kay de Wolf and Thibault Benistant have both said in their own words they are trying to get to the US. De Wolf famously said "80 percent of the paddock" wants to race in the US. What on earth would lead you to believe these are unfounded rumors made up by Americans?

There are only so many seats, though, so in that regard you are correct "80 percent" of the paddock will not be coming to the US.

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mxxxeR1 wrote:
If nothing changes and all the rumors come out and all futere star riders go to america  .....vialle is al ready in america prado is going....the...

If nothing changes and all the rumors come out and all futere star riders go to america  .....vialle is al ready in america prado is going....the coenen brothers and kay de wolf and maybe a few others.... also have plans to go........now they still have herlings....gasjer and febre hopefully they will race for a few more years but if they stop ..... then the world championship will be a joke  

Shaned9326 wrote:

Go watch yesterdays race and tell me they are in trouble!! They will be fine🍺🍺

I was in lommel yesterday.....were you there to.......

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GrapeApe wrote:
Man you make up some wild shit. Prado has already signed his US contract. Lucas Mirtl (Aussie) confirmed the Coenens are coming to America no later...

Man you make up some wild shit. Prado has already signed his US contract. Lucas Mirtl (Aussie) confirmed the Coenens are coming to America no later than '26. Kay de Wolf and Thibault Benistant have both said in their own words they are trying to get to the US. De Wolf famously said "80 percent of the paddock" wants to race in the US. What on earth would lead you to believe these are unfounded rumors made up by Americans?

There are only so many seats, though, so in that regard you are correct "80 percent" of the paddock will not be coming to the US.

Have you got a link to that quote? 

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Man you make up some wild shit. Prado has already signed his US contract. Lucas Mirtl (Aussie) confirmed the Coenens are coming to America no later...

Man you make up some wild shit. Prado has already signed his US contract. Lucas Mirtl (Aussie) confirmed the Coenens are coming to America no later than '26. Kay de Wolf and Thibault Benistant have both said in their own words they are trying to get to the US. De Wolf famously said "80 percent of the paddock" wants to race in the US. What on earth would lead you to believe these are unfounded rumors made up by Americans?

There are only so many seats, though, so in that regard you are correct "80 percent" of the paddock will not be coming to the US.

Have you got a link to that quote? 

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mxxxeR1 wrote:
If nothing changes and all the rumors come out and all futere star riders go to america  .....vialle is al ready in america prado is going....the...

If nothing changes and all the rumors come out and all futere star riders go to america  .....vialle is al ready in america prado is going....the coenen brothers and kay de wolf and maybe a few others.... also have plans to go........now they still have herlings....gasjer and febre hopefully they will race for a few more years but if they stop ..... then the world championship will be a joke  

Dude,  go to any non GP national race in Western Europe and see the amazing level of talent ready to step up.

EMX has tons of riders who will be household names in a couple years…

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mxxxeR1 wrote:
If nothing changes and all the rumors come out and all futere star riders go to america  .....vialle is al ready in america prado is going....the...

If nothing changes and all the rumors come out and all futere star riders go to america  .....vialle is al ready in america prado is going....the coenen brothers and kay de wolf and maybe a few others.... also have plans to go........now they still have herlings....gasjer and febre hopefully they will race for a few more years but if they stop ..... then the world championship will be a joke  

Brent wrote:
Dude,  go to any non GP national race in Western Europe and see the amazing level of talent ready to step up.EMX has tons of riders...

Dude,  go to any non GP national race in Western Europe and see the amazing level of talent ready to step up.

EMX has tons of riders who will be household names in a couple years…

I'm from the netherlands .i go to the onk when dave strijbos and john de berk stil raced .....so you dont have to tell me about that.....

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rileymx wrote:
every year its the same thing, americans start rumors about all the good euro racers going to america.....on the end its like one racer every couple...

every year its the same thing, americans start rumors about all the good euro racers going to america.....on the end its like one racer every couple of years going after the supercross challenge.....

if all those rumors were to be true, euros would take over america and their riders would go to unemployment, there is just so many factory rides there.......and if there is a good thing about youth system in europe, is the constant renewal of talent coming from the emx series....

dont worry, we will be fine for the near future atleast....every year "those" americans, that have that "only in america" agenda, will be starting those rumors because  thats how they recognize the talent those euro kids have.......

BobPA wrote:

An America dude definitely stole this dude's woman...I can just taste the bitterness through his post.

He never should've let her shave her armpits..............

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Exactly. Europe has so much talent in can afford to share some. 

Where USA is predominantly a privateer series. 

🤣🤣🤣

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Riders have talked for years about going to the US, but after their first mxgp title many seems to get stuck.

The Mx2 riders are better at leaving the series but the GP riders must earn good enough money from the brand as soon as they get a title.

The only rider in modern days to do that is Prado, but as mentioned earlier both Herlings and Gajser talked about it for years but never went.


So until the riders land on US soil, i would take the talk about it with a grain of salt.

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Tumic wrote:
Riders have talked for years about going to the US, but after their first mxgp title many seems to get stuck.The Mx2 riders are better at...

Riders have talked for years about going to the US, but after their first mxgp title many seems to get stuck.

The Mx2 riders are better at leaving the series but the GP riders must earn good enough money from the brand as soon as they get a title.

The only rider in modern days to do that is Prado, but as mentioned earlier both Herlings and Gajser talked about it for years but never went.


So until the riders land on US soil, i would take the talk about it with a grain of salt.

The problem for Herlings and Gajser is that generation of US talent was so deep it would have been tough for them. Prado only has to deal with Sexton, the Lawrences and eventually Deegan.

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mxxxeR1 wrote:
If nothing changes and all the rumors come out and all futere star riders go to america  .....vialle is al ready in america prado is going....the...

If nothing changes and all the rumors come out and all futere star riders go to america  .....vialle is al ready in america prado is going....the coenen brothers and kay de wolf and maybe a few others.... also have plans to go........now they still have herlings....gasjer and febre hopefully they will race for a few more years but if they stop ..... then the world championship will be a joke  

This must be one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen here

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