Hunter Lawrence and Jason Anderson Fined by AMA

Magoofan
Posts
10401
Joined
5/4/2021
Location
Shadow Glen (for those who remember), CA, USA
5/13/2024 11:42am

Found a clip on Youtube of Huntah's take out of Ando.     What a pussy move.    

 

10
32
Tumic
Posts
2874
Joined
11/27/2012
Location
Sundsvall, SE
5/13/2024 11:47am
MX Guy wrote:
“The punishment for the act should be the same no matter what lap they are on.”   You can’t be serious, right? There is no way...

“The punishment for the act should be the same no matter what lap they are on.”
 

You can’t be serious, right? There is no way a logical motorsports fan thinks this is true. 

Of all the letters in that post you choose to take one line out of it. 
 

Try to understand that my point is that i don’t want to see riders on the ground caused by other riders that can’t make a clean pass.

It’s a clear difference between American racing and the rest of the world, where you call it rubbin is racing and are fine with takeouts while in Europe that kind of ”racing” is not a positive thing.

Some say starter cross and that it’s impossible to pass but clearly some riders can come from close to last and almost podium in a main event without hitting another rider on their way to the front?.

The main problem here is not the two incidents with lappers, the problem is the things that led to it. 

2
12
LungButter
Posts
8684
Joined
1/9/2016
Location
Yellow Pine, ID, USA
5/13/2024 11:58am
Tumic wrote:
Of all the letters in that post you choose to take one line out of it.    Try to understand that my point is that i...

Of all the letters in that post you choose to take one line out of it. 
 

Try to understand that my point is that i don’t want to see riders on the ground caused by other riders that can’t make a clean pass.

It’s a clear difference between American racing and the rest of the world, where you call it rubbin is racing and are fine with takeouts while in Europe that kind of ”racing” is not a positive thing.

Some say starter cross and that it’s impossible to pass but clearly some riders can come from close to last and almost podium in a main event without hitting another rider on their way to the front?.

The main problem here is not the two incidents with lappers, the problem is the things that led to it. 

The rest of the world doesn't race Supercross like we do, Supercross has more contact than Motocross because it's in a smaller space.

Same can be said for Arenacross, more bumping and banging there than Supercross because it's in a smaller space.

Kinda common sense really.

11
6
Tumic
Posts
2874
Joined
11/27/2012
Location
Sundsvall, SE
5/13/2024 12:28pm
LungButter wrote:
The rest of the world doesn't race Supercross like we do, Supercross has more contact than Motocross because it's in a smaller space. Same can be...

The rest of the world doesn't race Supercross like we do, Supercross has more contact than Motocross because it's in a smaller space.

Same can be said for Arenacross, more bumping and banging there than Supercross because it's in a smaller space.

Kinda common sense really.

No it’s not since the top riders race clean and then you have the next segment with Barcia and Anderson that has to do crap like this.

Since when did the top 5-7 guys become the norm for how racing should be?.

It’s clear that you have ran out of talent when you have to take out the rider you race against instead of passing him. 
 

And i guess some people in the AMA think of it the same way since Anderson is on probation. The thing with probation is that it rarely lead to something.

As someone said. If a rider get out of line, hit them where it hurts (points and race ban) then they will clean up their act.

3
16

The Shop

Hcallz5
Posts
3279
Joined
8/20/2013
Location
USA
5/13/2024 12:57pm

They're both midpack goons in my book Woohoo

 

7
LungButter
Posts
8684
Joined
1/9/2016
Location
Yellow Pine, ID, USA
5/13/2024 1:04pm
Tumic wrote:
No it’s not since the top riders race clean and then you have the next segment with Barcia and Anderson that has to do crap like...

No it’s not since the top riders race clean and then you have the next segment with Barcia and Anderson that has to do crap like this.

Since when did the top 5-7 guys become the norm for how racing should be?.

It’s clear that you have ran out of talent when you have to take out the rider you race against instead of passing him. 
 

And i guess some people in the AMA think of it the same way since Anderson is on probation. The thing with probation is that it rarely lead to something.

As someone said. If a rider get out of line, hit them where it hurts (points and race ban) then they will clean up their act.

So your stance is there should not be any contact in racing at all?

2
2
Tumic
Posts
2874
Joined
11/27/2012
Location
Sundsvall, SE
5/13/2024 1:17pm
LungButter wrote:

So your stance is there should not be any contact in racing at all?

I don’t see any need for it. As i said, for me contact is made when your riding won’t cut it anymore and it seems that the best riders out there feel the same if you look at how they ride.

I follow AMA SX/MX, F1, Speedway GP, some MXGP, All moto GP classes and some Indy car and i just want good clean racing without the cars or bikes hitting eachother. 
 

The racing is often better that way than one rider ending up on the ground. 

7
16
LungButter
Posts
8684
Joined
1/9/2016
Location
Yellow Pine, ID, USA
5/13/2024 1:20pm
Tumic wrote:
I don’t see any need for it. As i said, for me contact is made when your riding won’t cut it anymore and it seems that...

I don’t see any need for it. As i said, for me contact is made when your riding won’t cut it anymore and it seems that the best riders out there feel the same if you look at how they ride.

I follow AMA SX/MX, F1, Speedway GP, some MXGP, All moto GP classes and some Indy car and i just want good clean racing without the cars or bikes hitting eachother. 
 

The racing is often better that way than one rider ending up on the ground. 

Fair enough, we'll have to agree to disagree.

I'm kinda a believer there is a reason the saying "rubbing is racing" has been around for so long....we don't need a bunch of dirty riding but nothing wrong with getting in there and bumping someone outta the way if that's what it takes.

Especially when SX tracks have become super one lined, everyone doing the same exact rhythms  and not much out there to separate guys to make passes.

10
5
DonM
Posts
8820
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
USA
Fantasy
5/13/2024 1:21pm
mxracer71 wrote:
You think this sport as a whole is in a good spot? Look at attendance in salt lake. I’ve been watching moto since I can I...

You think this sport as a whole is in a good spot? Look at attendance in salt lake. I’ve been watching moto since I can I can remember. I rode and raced in the hay days off the mid to late 90s. It usually takes me 30 mins to watch a night of racing because it’s that bad. First time I’ve ever done that. Somthing needs to be done to make it fun to watch again. The heat race with Levi and Rj was good. No optional lines,just the same rythms and just hope someone makes a mistake.

DonM wrote:

What's your point about attendance? the stadium in SLC was sold out? 

mxracer71 wrote:

You watch the broadcast? It was so sold out?it looked like an Oakland a”s game……

You are obviously basing your opinion from the futures race which was taped earlier in the day but shown during the broadcast...the stadium for the night program was full

5
1
Tumic
Posts
2874
Joined
11/27/2012
Location
Sundsvall, SE
5/13/2024 1:35pm
LungButter wrote:
Fair enough, we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm kinda a believer there is a reason the saying "rubbing is racing" has been around for so...

Fair enough, we'll have to agree to disagree.

I'm kinda a believer there is a reason the saying "rubbing is racing" has been around for so long....we don't need a bunch of dirty riding but nothing wrong with getting in there and bumping someone outta the way if that's what it takes.

Especially when SX tracks have become super one lined, everyone doing the same exact rhythms  and not much out there to separate guys to make passes.

I can say that my line goes where the other rider goes down. A nice calculated blockpass or rubbing elbows is one thing, but when it comes to that it’s a fine line before one get down.

yes, we can agree to disagree 👌🏻

3
7
Magoofan
Posts
10401
Joined
5/4/2021
Location
Shadow Glen (for those who remember), CA, USA
5/13/2024 1:53pm
DonM wrote:

Apparently just Hunter was fined in addition both riders received a written warning per Vurb

https://www.vurbmoto.com/hunter-lawrence-fined-following-jason-anderson…

Aggressive/Reckless riding....   What complete and utter BULLSHIT. 

One more nail in the coffin of the once great Supercross sport.

image-20240513135306-1

4
33
DonM
Posts
8820
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
USA
Fantasy
5/13/2024 1:57pm
DonM wrote:

Apparently just Hunter was fined in addition both riders received a written warning per Vurb

https://www.vurbmoto.com/hunter-lawrence-fined-following-jason-anderson…

Magoofan wrote:
Aggressive/Reckless riding....   What complete and utter BULLSHIT.  One more nail in the coffin of the once great Supercross sport.

Aggressive/Reckless riding....   What complete and utter BULLSHIT. 

One more nail in the coffin of the once great Supercross sport.

image-20240513135306-1

Well it was aggressive...TBH I think they got it right for both.

6
1
ando
Posts
4497
Joined
8/20/2009
Location
Perth, AU
5/13/2024 1:58pm
DonM wrote:

Apparently just Hunter was fined in addition both riders received a written warning per Vurb

https://www.vurbmoto.com/hunter-lawrence-fined-following-jason-anderson…

Magoofan wrote:
Aggressive/Reckless riding....   What complete and utter BULLSHIT.  One more nail in the coffin of the once great Supercross sport.

Aggressive/Reckless riding....   What complete and utter BULLSHIT. 

One more nail in the coffin of the once great Supercross sport.

image-20240513135306-1

Are you OK?

6
5
5/13/2024 2:02pm

Hunter started to wash the front end before JA even made contact yet he’s still fined 

Skuzzy29 wrote:
    You're the second person I read posting this and it's just not true. JA hit Hunter's bar sending him up the berm.
 

 

You're the second person I read posting this and it's just not true. JA hit Hunter's bar sending him up the berm.

Okay from this angle I see your point. I wasn’t able to watch the race live and from another online video I saw at a different angle I thought Hunter started to tuck before impact

1
2
5/13/2024 2:08pm
DonM wrote:

Apparently just Hunter was fined in addition both riders received a written warning per Vurb

https://www.vurbmoto.com/hunter-lawrence-fined-following-jason-anderson…

Fair assessment by the AMA although the written warning to Ando is excessive IMO. Racing incident.

3
4
ando
Posts
4497
Joined
8/20/2009
Location
Perth, AU
5/13/2024 2:15pm
DonM wrote:

Apparently just Hunter was fined in addition both riders received a written warning per Vurb

https://www.vurbmoto.com/hunter-lawrence-fined-following-jason-anderson…

Fair assessment by the AMA although the written warning to Ando is excessive IMO. Racing incident.

Not excessive when you continually have “racing incidents”.

5
12
gerg
Posts
1547
Joined
10/29/2014
Location
AU
5/13/2024 2:24pm
DonM wrote:

Apparently just Hunter was fined in addition both riders received a written warning per Vurb

https://www.vurbmoto.com/hunter-lawrence-fined-following-jason-anderson…

Magoofan wrote:
Aggressive/Reckless riding....   What complete and utter BULLSHIT.  One more nail in the coffin of the once great Supercross sport.

Aggressive/Reckless riding....   What complete and utter BULLSHIT. 

One more nail in the coffin of the once great Supercross sport.

image-20240513135306-1

If you've stopped watching (you've told us all 10 times now), can you just go away?

19
5
disbanded
Posts
6957
Joined
8/26/2007
Location
Evergreen, CO, USA
5/13/2024 2:39pm
Magoofan wrote:
Anyone have videos of said incidents?       I did not watch the final race, nor have any interest in it, but curious to see what...

Anyone have videos of said incidents?       I did not watch the final race, nor have any interest in it, but curious to see what the hubbub is about.    I still like a good scruff.

Ando is the AMAs favorite whipping boy after his "AMA suck it"  comment (or whatever wording it was) 

Hunter has proven himself to be a prick a number of times already.

That said....I'm all for the bar-banging.       The pussy-footing AMA (and the fans too) is just one more reason SX has gone to hell. 

 

Can you imagine anyone on the planet giving a flying fuck about what you think at this point?  You've made your bed.

14
6
ATKpilot99
Posts
10473
Joined
4/13/2010
Location
Lake Geneva, WI, USA
5/13/2024 2:40pm
DonM wrote:

Apparently just Hunter was fined in addition both riders received a written warning per Vurb

https://www.vurbmoto.com/hunter-lawrence-fined-following-jason-anderson…

Magoofan wrote:
Aggressive/Reckless riding....   What complete and utter BULLSHIT.  One more nail in the coffin of the once great Supercross sport.

Aggressive/Reckless riding....   What complete and utter BULLSHIT. 

One more nail in the coffin of the once great Supercross sport.

image-20240513135306-1

DonM wrote:

Well it was aggressive...TBH I think they got it right for both.

Anderson wasn't reckless though  , I mean he was able to keep going . Smile

7
2
dsoll703
Posts
271
Joined
10/11/2023
Location
Canton, GA, USA
Fantasy
5/13/2024 2:59pm Edited Date/Time 5/13/2024 2:59pm
DonM wrote:

What's your point about attendance? the stadium in SLC was sold out? 

mxracer71 wrote:

You watch the broadcast? It was so sold out?it looked like an Oakland a”s game……

DonM wrote:
You are obviously basing your opinion from the futures race which was taped earlier in the day but shown during the broadcast...the stadium for the night...

You are obviously basing your opinion from the futures race which was taped earlier in the day but shown during the broadcast...the stadium for the night program was full

I didn’t really pay attention to the attendance at SLC Don, but it does look like there are a lot of empty seats at a lot of the races. I went to the Nashville round and the entire upper deck was empty that was across from me.

I guess there could be ‘no shows’?


Maybe I’m jaded though as I always attended the Atlanta races where every seat was sold during the dome days.

Different times I suppose 

2
1
dsoll703
Posts
271
Joined
10/11/2023
Location
Canton, GA, USA
Fantasy
5/13/2024 3:00pm
Magoofan wrote:

Found a clip on Youtube of Huntah's take out of Ando.     What a pussy move.    

 

Agreed, he would have a hard time living that down back in the day.

2
5
ATKpilot99
Posts
10473
Joined
4/13/2010
Location
Lake Geneva, WI, USA
5/13/2024 3:47pm

A written warning 

16
303MX
Posts
91
Joined
9/6/2015
Location
Denver, CO, USA
5/13/2024 3:49pm

I see the comments saying Anderson is going to do what he wants to because he DGAF, but I can’t help but think Kawasaki does care what he does.

Kawi has told Anderson to tone it down because they don’t want to deal with the issues.

Other manufacturers are trying to protect their franchise riders and don’t want to deal with this shit either… 

So, when Anderson continues to get himself into situations where he’s getting penalized by the AMA and then posts on social media that he’s fine with playing the bad guy role, what does Kawasaki do? I doubt Anderson asked Kawi if he could post what he did, and doubt even more that Kawi wants him playing the bad guy.

But, since Anderson does what he wants on the track and off - Kawi has to rely on the AMA to penalize Anderson (which has had - and will continue have no effect) and by Kawi not taking action against Anderson themselves - they’re allowing Anderson to dictate how fans and other teams view team Kawi and it’s sponsors.

Hunter isn’t innocent either, and I’d guess that Honda doesn’t want him retaliating. And, both the Honda and Kawasaki teams themselves probably have enough mutual respect for each other and the investment that they put into their team/riders/brands/sponsors that they are relying on each other to tell both their riders to knock the shit off.

These riders get paid a lot of money, and I can’t help but think that when the team gives them a directive- they expect the rider to follow it, so it makes me wonder if Kawi sees Anderson as difficult to work with and what they’re willing to put up with?

 

6
5
5/13/2024 4:06pm

I can't help but feel if AC9 was healthy, Ando would be out and replaced with Forkner.

Kawasaki can't be please with his actions and social media posts.

3
16
Magoofan
Posts
10401
Joined
5/4/2021
Location
Shadow Glen (for those who remember), CA, USA
5/13/2024 5:04pm
Magoofan wrote:
Anyone have videos of said incidents?       I did not watch the final race, nor have any interest in it, but curious to see what...

Anyone have videos of said incidents?       I did not watch the final race, nor have any interest in it, but curious to see what the hubbub is about.    I still like a good scruff.

Ando is the AMAs favorite whipping boy after his "AMA suck it"  comment (or whatever wording it was) 

Hunter has proven himself to be a prick a number of times already.

That said....I'm all for the bar-banging.       The pussy-footing AMA (and the fans too) is just one more reason SX has gone to hell. 

 

disbanded wrote:

Can you imagine anyone on the planet giving a flying fuck about what you think at this point?  You've made your bed.

Apparently you do because you follow me around reading my posts all the time.   You and a few others who just can't seem to help yourselves. 

    Maybe you can send me another drunken tirade via Vital PM again about ignoring eachother.     I got a good kick out of that. Woohoo  

 

2
23
Magoofan
Posts
10401
Joined
5/4/2021
Location
Shadow Glen (for those who remember), CA, USA
5/13/2024 5:07pm
DonM wrote:

Apparently just Hunter was fined in addition both riders received a written warning per Vurb

https://www.vurbmoto.com/hunter-lawrence-fined-following-jason-anderson…

Magoofan wrote:
Aggressive/Reckless riding....   What complete and utter BULLSHIT.  One more nail in the coffin of the once great Supercross sport.

Aggressive/Reckless riding....   What complete and utter BULLSHIT. 

One more nail in the coffin of the once great Supercross sport.

image-20240513135306-1

DonM wrote:

Well it was aggressive...TBH I think they got it right for both.

Don...I'm sorry, I just don't see how that was aggressive at all.     That was racin hard in my book.         The AMA just has a hard-on for JA....      

4
16
D.K.O.N.
Posts
1128
Joined
4/30/2021
Location
San Diego, CA, USA
5/13/2024 5:09pm
mxracer71 wrote:
You think this sport as a whole is in a good spot? Look at attendance in salt lake. I’ve been watching moto since I can I...

You think this sport as a whole is in a good spot? Look at attendance in salt lake. I’ve been watching moto since I can I can remember. I rode and raced in the hay days off the mid to late 90s. It usually takes me 30 mins to watch a night of racing because it’s that bad. First time I’ve ever done that. Somthing needs to be done to make it fun to watch again. The heat race with Levi and Rj was good. No optional lines,just the same rythms and just hope someone makes a mistake.

DonM wrote:

What's your point about attendance? the stadium in SLC was sold out? 

mxracer71 wrote:

You watch the broadcast? It was so sold out?it looked like an Oakland a”s game……

Did you only watch during the futures? Because that was before opening ceremony. The place was packed. 

2
5/13/2024 5:19pm

Both riders were given a slap on the wrist and Hunter was fined...

image-20240514101833-1

D.K.O.N.
Posts
1128
Joined
4/30/2021
Location
San Diego, CA, USA
5/13/2024 5:21pm
Both riders were given a slap on the wrist and Hunter was fined...

Both riders were given a slap on the wrist and Hunter was fined...

image-20240514101833-1

Seems fair, to be honest. Clearly Hunta earned the most unnecessary award of that interaction. 

6

Post a reply to: Hunter Lawrence and Jason Anderson Fined by AMA

The Latest