What’s your guys thoughts on where collector condition (low hours, non-restored, clean) Honda CR250 & CR500’s go in 5-10yrs value wise?
We’ve obviously seen an increase from them in the past few years. But do you think it’s a bubble or will continue to grow in the next 5-10+ years?
2nd question: how much more or less are fully restored bikes worth compared to a non-restored original bike?
Bonus points on the rarest years for each model
Just like Dinosaur's, as long as they are complete and unmolested they should continue to climb in value.
You just have to find the right palaeontologist.
It's not necessarily because the bike is worth more, but the dollar is worth less. So..
The auto market at this time seems to be going backwards.... Unmolested, unaltered classics don't seem to be what they once were. However, a restomod car seems to be what everyone wants. I have an 63k 57 T bird, red with white inside, both tops, and the value of those cars is down a bit from 5 years ago. And the 63K on the clock is legit......
Here in Australia they peaked in value in 2020/21. Have been going down since and I struggle to see them going up a lot in the next 5-10 years, but so much of that depends on interest rates and the general strength of the economy.
when interest rates were close to zero it was easy to justify buying expensive toys. It’s a very different situation today.
Also a pretty significant volume of cr500’s have been shipped from US to Australia (and maybe to a lesser degree Uk and EU?) over the last decade or so. To the point that the market here now is saturated and I don’t see prices ever getting back to the covid madness era. You could argue the opposite may happen in the US, since the supply is getting drained by this trade flow.
At the moment the whole used dirt bike market is pretty much in the toilet, so it doesn’t help the value of collectibles either.
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It seems like there more alum frame 500 ,s than 250 forsale . Thd 500,s go for the biggest money . Which I don’t understand nobody races them & they were boring to watch in 91 . Everybody was excited to see the 125,s race. A few 125,s r above 5k. Rarely see a 05/07 cr250 for sale . But I Love that bike and would like to hv one. But I like the 125,s more. Suzuki threw the kitchen sink into the rm250 engine . The bike feel great but there soo squirrelly And built like crap. 4 rm,s to 1 Honda in durability.
Sold a few kx500s that left the country. Same exporters keep asking if I want to sell anymore. Offers been pretty high still. For both steel and AF bikes. Surprised to see so many Cr250 and 500s on the market. Many are restored or excellent survivors. Easier to get parts for the Hondas versus the Kaws.
Bikes wanna be ridden, not sit in a museum... yuck
I would like to think that post-Covid collecters madness will be the prices realised in 5-10 years.
Some bikes went up 100% here in Australia (typically steel frame CRs).
Like said up a little. The bubble has burst by say 20-25%. But it won't drop much further than that. People who have overpaid will not sell on the market unless they have to. Making the used market more scarce again which will hold value.
Im with the aussie guys on this one. Globaly the bouble has burst.
My dad owns two cr500’s, not stock bikes but one ex -96 Sarholz Honda gp bike and one -90 with all the right parts on it with aluminium tank, subframe/airbox. WP suspension, conepipe etc.
He gets contacted a couple of times a year and people often offer him around 10.000$ for each bike. That number is not rising.
The value wont continue to increase.
I have a friend, and older friend who is in to his road racing two-strokes, stuff like Yamahas RDs & TZs.
I was having a conversation with him about inheritance and rather than leave his son a bunch of cash & property, he would be better off leaving him a unit full of his old valuable Yamaha TZs..
He disagreed....
He said- See that TZ there, its worth about 8 grand if I put it on eBay. Would you give me 7 grand for it?? I replied, No, cos its not really my thing or something im passionate about.
He said and thats the point- the value of these machines is NOW, whilst his generation are alive to appreciate them and appreciate the nostalgia. His son, his grandson, neither of them or any of that generation could GAF about a 1970s two stroke bike..
So once his generation has passed, the people who want them and willing to pay top-dollar for them are also passed. The later generation aren't interested.. so their value decreases.
Aside form a handful of models which will remain in museums, nobody else sees their value, so wont pay for it.
I think prices would be different if there wasn't other companies making them still. Even on Hondas, for instance, the motor is worth near what the bike of a certain year is. I used to build AF 500s and the last build I did was a 125 in a CRF250 frame. The new Honda frames are good, because the Y is open now for exhaust. So, for instance the 2002 to 2007 CRs are a great bike once you figure out Honda shrunk down the intake boot so it didn't run correctly and hard to jet. (Just a coincidence, that is when the CRF came out...). Once I figured that out, I got them running really well. But since the new frames are really better, it's hard to want that in comparison to a new KTM or newer CRF250 frame and suspension. Jmho
I’m into collecting NASCAR diecasts and prices have plummeted because the generation that collected them is dying off.
This….once us geezers that have a nostalgia for these bikes are dead… the values will decrease…But who knows …
If you can outlast the old geezers, you will pickup a bargain!
No it’s because most people r struggling & broke. 700,000 trks 4sale in Chicago, tens of thousands of co.s shutting down weekly. Wages cut in half. A smart rider would purchase a cr250 or cr125. Modded they r more than competitive. There r co.s making parts like pv flaps & shafts . There co is holding the release up. Trans parts also. Surrat ,s cr250 stock bore pulled all the 300,s on all the hills but the largest at gl. Waiting in line here in NC to ld. I,m working a young man’s job 53ft flatbed because no other trl has freight. It’s much worse than 08.
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