I know it’s way early but wondering if Coops revival will translate over to outdoors.

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Stoked for Coop and loving this SX season but can’t help wondering if Coop’s revival will translate over to outdoors. I know he struggled on the KTM 450 in MX but are we seeing shades of his Star 250 days showing up this summer?

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4/13/2024 11:26pm

prob not, but that'd be cool

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I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I want some good tough battles and Sexton seems to not be gelling with the KTM so well and Tomac apparently is only racing select rds.

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4/13/2024 11:58pm
ProKawi24 wrote:
I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I...

I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I want some good tough battles and Sexton seems to not be gelling with the KTM so well and Tomac apparently is only racing select rds.

Agreed, also, Eli if your reading this, race the whole series, and let us get a title fight like 2022, bring more of the old Eli back.

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4/14/2024 12:07am Edited Date/Time 4/14/2024 7:51pm

Coop is definitely riding the best he's ridden on a 450 currently in SX, If Roczen, Ferrandis, Tomac are there probably a 4-6th place guy.

Edit -  One thing that caught my eye with Webb this year is he's throwing around that 450 a lot more this year which I haven't seen since he was on 250's, so maybe he might surprise but still there is Chase and Jett.

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ProKawi24 wrote:
I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I...

I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I want some good tough battles and Sexton seems to not be gelling with the KTM so well and Tomac apparently is only racing select rds.

Sexton looked like they figured something out last night. That was the best he’s looked all year. 

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I remember Webb was really good and won 250F outdoors title, how's his out doors been on 450? Any wins?

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I remember Webb was really good and won 250F outdoors title, how's his out doors been on 450? Any wins?

He's got one overall win in the 450 class. 

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Last night's track played right into Webb's hands, and style.

His start was outstanding. 

 

He benefited big time by Jett's piss poor start, and slippery as shit track.

Both he and Tomac could only do so much with it.

 

Nothing would be cooler than Webb having his old 250 speed in the upcoming outdoor season.

Let's hope the YZ is the bike to give him that next level speed.

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4/14/2024 3:46am Edited Date/Time 4/14/2024 3:48am
ProKawi24 wrote:
I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I...

I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I want some good tough battles and Sexton seems to not be gelling with the KTM so well and Tomac apparently is only racing select rds.

As much as I like Jett, I'd like him to finish 2nd in the first moto of the year, just to help put a stop to the media over hype.

 

It's time for them, and fans, to sit back and simply enjoy the racing.

 

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ProKawi24 wrote:
I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I...

I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I want some good tough battles and Sexton seems to not be gelling with the KTM so well and Tomac apparently is only racing select rds.

As much as I like Jett, I'd like him to finish 2nd in the first moto of the year, just to help put a stop to...

As much as I like Jett, I'd like him to finish 2nd in the first moto of the year, just to help put a stop to the media over hype.

 

It's time for them, and fans, to sit back and simply enjoy the racing.

 

The media is acting like we need to be convinced or sold that Jett is outstanding. The level of professionalism in our sports broadcasts and media is getting steadily worse it seems. Of course, perhaps they produce to appeal to ADD learning disabled 7-year-olds because that is what they believe us to be, at least according to RC's "keyboard warrior" snit, and Weege's and Matthe's common disparaging remarks.

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This is the same thing everyone said after he won his first sx title on the KTM. Look out for Webb outdoors now! Then Eli handled him every mx season. He won't get in the same zip code as Jett and Chase this summer. Eli too, if he decides to race

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This is the same thing everyone said after he won his first sx title on the KTM. Look out for Webb outdoors now! Then Eli handled...

This is the same thing everyone said after he won his first sx title on the KTM. Look out for Webb outdoors now! Then Eli handled him every mx season. He won't get in the same zip code as Jett and Chase this summer. Eli too, if he decides to race

I know, but wouldn’t it be cool

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This is the same thing everyone said after he won his first sx title on the KTM. Look out for Webb outdoors now! Then Eli handled...

This is the same thing everyone said after he won his first sx title on the KTM. Look out for Webb outdoors now! Then Eli handled him every mx season. He won't get in the same zip code as Jett and Chase this summer. Eli too, if he decides to race

I tend to agree with you.

 

But I'm hoping...

 

Two of my three favorites are tied in points at the moment. 

Numerous others are a threat to win on any particular night.

 

Seriously hope it transfers to outdoors. 

But you're correct, it's probably going to be the Chase and Jett show.

With good battles for the last podium spot.

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This is the same thing everyone said after he won his first sx title on the KTM. Look out for Webb outdoors now! Then Eli handled...

This is the same thing everyone said after he won his first sx title on the KTM. Look out for Webb outdoors now! Then Eli handled him every mx season. He won't get in the same zip code as Jett and Chase this summer. Eli too, if he decides to race

I know, but wouldn’t it be cool

Hell yeah. I'd love to see a dog fight at front with Eli, Chase, Jett, and Coop. Even throw Ando in there. Look at '22 though. When Eli and Chase were pushing, they gapped 3rd by 45 seconds. I just think Chase and Jett are on another level outdoors. 

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It will not. He’s just not a good 450 MX rider. Really strange considering how great he is in SX and how great he was in that 250 MX Championship season. Then his two great performances on the 450 at the MXoN. In a 450 series, I believe he has 3 podiums and 1 win in his 450 MX career, which began in 2017. Truly baffling stuff.

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4/14/2024 7:35am Edited Date/Time 4/14/2024 7:37am

Well judging by how hard they’re pushing the last few rounds they’re gonna need a break after SX but it’s only a couple weeks between the last round and Pala.

4/14/2024 1:34pm
EricZ38 wrote:
Stoked for Coop and loving this SX season but can’t help wondering if Coop’s revival will translate over to outdoors. I know he struggled on the...

Stoked for Coop and loving this SX season but can’t help wondering if Coop’s revival will translate over to outdoors. I know he struggled on the KTM 450 in MX but are we seeing shades of his Star 250 days showing up this summer?

No chance, we’ve been here before.. see 2019/2021

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4/14/2024 7:07pm

When cooper was asked about his goals his first or second goal was win another outdoor race. Cooper is better indoors sure but he is still a 3-7 guy outdoors. That’s a bad dude. 

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EricZ38 wrote:
Stoked for Coop and loving this SX season but can’t help wondering if Coop’s revival will translate over to outdoors. I know he struggled on the...

Stoked for Coop and loving this SX season but can’t help wondering if Coop’s revival will translate over to outdoors. I know he struggled on the KTM 450 in MX but are we seeing shades of his Star 250 days showing up this summer?

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4/14/2024 7:44pm

not sure if coop will break the top 5 outdoors....especially if ELI starts.

 

chase and Jett to fight it out otherwise.

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ProKawi24 wrote:
I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I...

I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I want some good tough battles and Sexton seems to not be gelling with the KTM so well and Tomac apparently is only racing select rds.

You won't bro, I guarantee it. Prado is on the first plane out following MXGP heading to Cali to jump on his (N) 450 KX. He can beat Jett how many times, I don't know. but he will win several 2025 outdoor motos. 

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Not sure if it’s his size but he could never throw the 450 around like he could the 250. Dude was beast mode junior on that 250. 

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I think if anything it will hurt him because he won’t be outdoor testing and will be grinding to get this SX title..

I imagine he will have the Supercross hangover this year.

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ProKawi24 wrote:
I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I...

I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I want some good tough battles and Sexton seems to not be gelling with the KTM so well and Tomac apparently is only racing select rds.

SFOBB wrote:
You won't bro, I guarantee it. Prado is on the first plane out following MXGP heading to Cali to jump on his (N) 450 KX. He...

You won't bro, I guarantee it. Prado is on the first plane out following MXGP heading to Cali to jump on his (N) 450 KX. He can beat Jett how many times, I don't know. but he will win several 2025 outdoor motos. 

You really think Prado is going to jump off of his Euro spec engine/steel frame GasGas onto a Stock aluminum frame KX with little testing and win several motos?

This is on tracks he's never raced before, against the guy who went undefeated on his first try on a bike he is already comfortable on?

 

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ProKawi24 wrote:
I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I...

I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I want some good tough battles and Sexton seems to not be gelling with the KTM so well and Tomac apparently is only racing select rds.

SFOBB wrote:
You won't bro, I guarantee it. Prado is on the first plane out following MXGP heading to Cali to jump on his (N) 450 KX. He...

You won't bro, I guarantee it. Prado is on the first plane out following MXGP heading to Cali to jump on his (N) 450 KX. He can beat Jett how many times, I don't know. but he will win several 2025 outdoor motos. 

kxking wrote:
You really think Prado is going to jump off of his Euro spec engine/steel frame GasGas onto a Stock aluminum frame KX with little testing and...

You really think Prado is going to jump off of his Euro spec engine/steel frame GasGas onto a Stock aluminum frame KX with little testing and win several motos?

This is on tracks he's never raced before, against the guy who went undefeated on his first try on a bike he is already comfortable on?

 

Good point about the bike.  How will he adapt to a production based Kawi. If he indeed signs with them

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The lack of whoops is helping Coop's!

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The lack of whoops is helping Coop's!

Speaking of whoops, man did Jett pull on him in the heat race through the whoops. He literally gave Coop no chance to get him back.

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Webb will race a couple of outdoor races and then figure out a reason not to race until SX.

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ProKawi24 wrote:
I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I...

I sure hope so. I'm not hating on Jett at all but I don't wanna see another perfect season with him running away with it. I want some good tough battles and Sexton seems to not be gelling with the KTM so well and Tomac apparently is only racing select rds.

SFOBB wrote:
You won't bro, I guarantee it. Prado is on the first plane out following MXGP heading to Cali to jump on his (N) 450 KX. He...

You won't bro, I guarantee it. Prado is on the first plane out following MXGP heading to Cali to jump on his (N) 450 KX. He can beat Jett how many times, I don't know. but he will win several 2025 outdoor motos. 

kxking wrote:
You really think Prado is going to jump off of his Euro spec engine/steel frame GasGas onto a Stock aluminum frame KX with little testing and...

You really think Prado is going to jump off of his Euro spec engine/steel frame GasGas onto a Stock aluminum frame KX with little testing and win several motos?

This is on tracks he's never raced before, against the guy who went undefeated on his first try on a bike he is already comfortable on?

 

New CRF 450 next year. So Jett won’t be on his 22-0 bike.

Think of the reverse in this. If Jett signed with KTM next year to race MXGP, would anyone here have think he’d have a hard time winning motos?

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SFOBB wrote:
You won't bro, I guarantee it. Prado is on the first plane out following MXGP heading to Cali to jump on his (N) 450 KX. He...

You won't bro, I guarantee it. Prado is on the first plane out following MXGP heading to Cali to jump on his (N) 450 KX. He can beat Jett how many times, I don't know. but he will win several 2025 outdoor motos. 

kxking wrote:
You really think Prado is going to jump off of his Euro spec engine/steel frame GasGas onto a Stock aluminum frame KX with little testing and...

You really think Prado is going to jump off of his Euro spec engine/steel frame GasGas onto a Stock aluminum frame KX with little testing and win several motos?

This is on tracks he's never raced before, against the guy who went undefeated on his first try on a bike he is already comfortable on?

 

New CRF 450 next year. So Jett won’t be on his 22-0 bike. Think of the reverse in this. If Jett signed with KTM next year...

New CRF 450 next year. So Jett won’t be on his 22-0 bike.

Think of the reverse in this. If Jett signed with KTM next year to race MXGP, would anyone here have think he’d have a hard time winning motos?

After watching Chase struggle like he is, Yes !

And I believe he will be on the same bike this year.

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