Bondo - Weekly Complaint box

3/26/2024 4:03pm
If you add up all the in-person and TV viewers over the 50 years it's been in existence (plus Bercy, WSX, etc), that's probaly not too...

If you add up all the in-person and TV viewers over the 50 years it's been in existence (plus Bercy, WSX, etc), that's probaly not too far off.Whistling

 

Apparently average per round was 626,000 in 2022 according to Motocross Sponsorship Demographics — EC Sports Management (ecsportsmgmt.com)

*...sigh...* It was a joke. They always bring out the statisticians. 

*...sigh...*

It was a joke.

They always bring out the statisticians. Grinning

Wasn’t trying to single you out haha just for informational purposes 

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3/26/2024 4:18pm Edited Date/Time 3/26/2024 4:19pm

Apparently average per round was 626,000 in 2022 according to Motocross Sponsorship Demographics — EC Sports Management (ecsportsmgmt.com)

*...sigh...* It was a joke. They always bring out the statisticians. 

*...sigh...*

It was a joke.

They always bring out the statisticians. Grinning

Wasn’t trying to single you out haha just for informational purposes 

It's all good! Grinning

Was just pointing out that there are literally hundreds of SX viewers - but probably a lot less listeners due to the mute buttonWhistling- out there for every event... and don't forget they all come back here afterwards to rail about how much they hated it! Tongue

With that sort of clout, why wouldn't networks jump when they complain? Laughing

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3/26/2024 6:00pm
Talon wrote:
Dude exactly. No one even really knows what job I do and if I suck I get fired. Millions of people see this product and A...

Dude exactly. No one even really knows what job I do and if I suck I get fired. Millions of people see this product and A LOT of people think it sucks. You’re telling me they can have that much exposure and suck that bad and have ZERO accountability? That means one thing to me. Like others have mentioned.. politics. Only in politics can you suck that bad and have nothing change. Bondo has top cover and can suck however bad he wants. 

LungButter wrote:

Wait a minute....millions of people watch SX?  Is that legit?

Yes

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The number one thing to me is the constant dumbing down of the show.  If someone is watching it for the first time its because they are watching it with someone who's been watching a long time and can explain the basics.  The 7 people that stumbled upon it on accident can figure it out themselves, it's not rocket surgery.  As others have mentioned, go deeper on the technical side both on the equipment and the riding and make us all smarter about the sport which in turn makes you a bigger fan.  It would be nice to have someone replace RC that actually knows about the bikes-someone like Phil who knows the bikes inside and out and can help us nerd out on bike setup (I realize he's probably not the best guy for the booth, but he has flexed his knowledge several times on pulp before he has to shut up before he gets himself in trouble).  Wedge doesn't even know where to put gas in the bike so we need someone seriously good next to him to pick up that deficiency. Thankfully we finally got him in the boot for SX as he can actually carry the show.  Hell he could probably call the shots as far as which camera to go to WHILE announcing.  It can't possibly be worse than who's doing it now.   

 

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3/26/2024 9:52pm

I have seen other sports broadcast, soccer maybe, where there is just live audio from the stadium. Can we all sign a petition to do that. I just want to hear the bikes. 

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3/27/2024 2:36am
EZZA 95B wrote:

A guy called into PulpMX and Matthes and Keefer see no problem with the production.🙄

I just listened to this segment and that isn’t true. They both agreed there are problems with the broadcast and the shot to the crowd was...

I just listened to this segment and that isn’t true. They both agreed there are problems with the broadcast and the shot to the crowd was a mistake. They also said they don’t care about them and don’t understand why everyone is so upset about the broadcast. It’s kind of a strange stance for me. They care about so much stuff like privateers getting paid etc. but don’t care about how the sport is presented on screen? Certainly seems like a convenient way to skirt around actually talking about how bad the broadcast is. Even Marks chimed in and said “I understand it’s a mistake, I’ve fat fingered this board multiple times but to let the shot last that long without changing it back quicker was odd.” 

 

Let me rephrase that. They don’t care.

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3/27/2024 8:39am
EZZA 95B wrote:

Let me rephrase that. They don’t care.

They are just unwilling to adapt. It sucks. I like weege but he dumbs himself down. Ricky is down right terrible. Weege hardly calls the race, everything is rider said/did this during the week. There’s no breakdowns of the racing. Who’s fast in sector x, who’s moving through the pack. When I can see a rider charging on timing and scoring and it doesn’t get brought up on the broadcast I don’t understand. 
 

People that say we should just be happy to watch racing?  Is such a cop out. If that was the permeating attitude the sport would never have even got on tv. The complacent attitude is why we don’t see any changes in the broadcast. We need new people running the show. 

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They are just unwilling to adapt. It sucks. I like weege but he dumbs himself down. Ricky is down right terrible. Weege hardly calls the race...

They are just unwilling to adapt. It sucks. I like weege but he dumbs himself down. Ricky is down right terrible. Weege hardly calls the race, everything is rider said/did this during the week. There’s no breakdowns of the racing. Who’s fast in sector x, who’s moving through the pack. When I can see a rider charging on timing and scoring and it doesn’t get brought up on the broadcast I don’t understand. 
 

People that say we should just be happy to watch racing?  Is such a cop out. If that was the permeating attitude the sport would never have even got on tv. The complacent attitude is why we don’t see any changes in the broadcast. We need new people running the show. 

It's a 3 hour infomercial. Nothing more, nothing less.

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3/27/2024 9:28am

What is today? Wednesday? BONDO sucks!

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3/27/2024 3:15pm

What are the long-term effects of Bondo?

Acute effects include eye, nose, and throat irritation, headaches, nausea and vomiting, dizziness, and the worsening of asthma symptoms. Long-term exposure has been associated with damage to the central nervous system, liver and kidneys, as well as with an increased risk of cancer (CDC, 1987).

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EZZA 95B wrote:

Let me rephrase that. They don’t care.

soggy wrote:
They are just unwilling to adapt. It sucks. I like weege but he dumbs himself down. Ricky is down right terrible. Weege hardly calls the race...

They are just unwilling to adapt. It sucks. I like weege but he dumbs himself down. Ricky is down right terrible. Weege hardly calls the race, everything is rider said/did this during the week. There’s no breakdowns of the racing. Who’s fast in sector x, who’s moving through the pack. When I can see a rider charging on timing and scoring and it doesn’t get brought up on the broadcast I don’t understand. 
 

People that say we should just be happy to watch racing?  Is such a cop out. If that was the permeating attitude the sport would never have even got on tv. The complacent attitude is why we don’t see any changes in the broadcast. We need new people running the show. 

One of my biggest issues with US MX and SX racing is the complete disregard of tracking different riders pace. Imagine watching F1, MotoGP, any Superbike race, Nascar, Indycar or whatever and they put next to zero effort towards keeping track of riders/drivers either dropping back or coming through the pack with a good pace? 

It doesn't happen. But here at our little pond, it's the norm. 

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3/28/2024 5:12am
Motofinne wrote:
One of my biggest issues with US MX and SX racing is the complete disregard of tracking different riders pace. Imagine watching F1, MotoGP, any Superbike...

One of my biggest issues with US MX and SX racing is the complete disregard of tracking different riders pace. Imagine watching F1, MotoGP, any Superbike race, Nascar, Indycar or whatever and they put next to zero effort towards keeping track of riders/drivers either dropping back or coming through the pack with a good pace? 

It doesn't happen. But here at our little pond, it's the norm. 

I mostly watch the intervals to know what’s going on.😂

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I've been on this site for as long as I can remember. 

After reading this topic, I finally joined so I could post a reply.

This Bondo guy sucks!!  Biggest friggin idiot in the business.  Watching the broadcast makes me want to take a running start and kick him repeatedly in the nuts.

There are only two possibilities.  He actually hates the sport, hates his job, hates the fans and is WILLFULLY effing up the broadcast just to be a total dick.  I could almost respect that if this is what he's doing.

But more than likely it's the other possibility.  He's just an idiot who sucks at his job!  A retarded chimp with down syndrome could do a better job.

Like DV, I love watching dirt bikes racing a SX track on my full LCD TV!   Watching how the bike's suspension reacts, the line choices, and close racing action. I don't want to watch ants from the ceiling of the stadium (on BOTH split screens) where you can't even tell who they are.

When they go to the two split screens, I find myself just zoning out, waiting for it to go back so I can see bikes!!!  And now the norm seems to be that the split screens are being used for more than half of the time in each of the races. Use them for a few 10 second intervals and go back to the full screen.  It's so friggin' lazy, (I'm sure he thinks "I'll just leave the split screens up for most of the race so I don't have to do my actual job".  Idiot!)

This, and every complaint you've all mentioned about stupid cutaways to riders talking.  Other than Nicoletti who can actually talk fast and express his thoughts quickly, it makes me hate the dumb riders that take forever to get a friggin sentence out, dragging the interview out even longer; ("uhh, I just want to say, uhh, my bike is working, uhhh better now, and I uhh,... blah, blah, blah).  Just dump these interviews and the other cutaways that steal the full screen action!

Feld, Peacock, whoever,... Please dump this incompetent moron and get someone that actually loves the sport and knows how to direct the action in a GD broadcast!

 

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3/28/2024 1:51pm

Bottom line, the camera director needs to be someone who understands moto, someone who can recognize the the race development and know the storylines that are most relevant to the race and the championship. Bondo has proven for 15 years, he ain't that guy. Somebody else needs to call the camera shots.

Weege is absolutely the best play-by-play guy we have. I like Diffey, but Weege is core moto. He can reference in real time the career win leaders, track conditions at last year's event, or some shit Ron Lechien did in 1985. 

RC was finally impressive with his observation that Webb was suffering from arm pump late in the Seattle main. That's all he needs to do and that is his job, but James seems to seems to notice and comment on these things more naturally. 

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3/28/2024 1:55pm

Every Vital Mx member is sitting down with a notepad and pencil this weekend ready to stick it to Bondo. 

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3/28/2024 2:10pm
Bri577 wrote:
I've been on this site for as long as I can remember.  After reading this topic, I finally joined so I could post a reply. This...

I've been on this site for as long as I can remember. 

After reading this topic, I finally joined so I could post a reply.

This Bondo guy sucks!!  Biggest friggin idiot in the business.  Watching the broadcast makes me want to take a running start and kick him repeatedly in the nuts.

There are only two possibilities.  He actually hates the sport, hates his job, hates the fans and is WILLFULLY effing up the broadcast just to be a total dick.  I could almost respect that if this is what he's doing.

But more than likely it's the other possibility.  He's just an idiot who sucks at his job!  A retarded chimp with down syndrome could do a better job.

Like DV, I love watching dirt bikes racing a SX track on my full LCD TV!   Watching how the bike's suspension reacts, the line choices, and close racing action. I don't want to watch ants from the ceiling of the stadium (on BOTH split screens) where you can't even tell who they are.

When they go to the two split screens, I find myself just zoning out, waiting for it to go back so I can see bikes!!!  And now the norm seems to be that the split screens are being used for more than half of the time in each of the races. Use them for a few 10 second intervals and go back to the full screen.  It's so friggin' lazy, (I'm sure he thinks "I'll just leave the split screens up for most of the race so I don't have to do my actual job".  Idiot!)

This, and every complaint you've all mentioned about stupid cutaways to riders talking.  Other than Nicoletti who can actually talk fast and express his thoughts quickly, it makes me hate the dumb riders that take forever to get a friggin sentence out, dragging the interview out even longer; ("uhh, I just want to say, uhh, my bike is working, uhhh better now, and I uhh,... blah, blah, blah).  Just dump these interviews and the other cutaways that steal the full screen action!

Feld, Peacock, whoever,... Please dump this incompetent moron and get someone that actually loves the sport and knows how to direct the action in a GD broadcast!

 

HOF ! 

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Motofinne wrote:
One of my biggest issues with US MX and SX racing is the complete disregard of tracking different riders pace. Imagine watching F1, MotoGP, any Superbike...

One of my biggest issues with US MX and SX racing is the complete disregard of tracking different riders pace. Imagine watching F1, MotoGP, any Superbike race, Nascar, Indycar or whatever and they put next to zero effort towards keeping track of riders/drivers either dropping back or coming through the pack with a good pace? 

It doesn't happen. But here at our little pond, it's the norm. 

EZZA 95B wrote:

I mostly watch the intervals to know what’s going on.😂

Try to but as with everything else the timing also sucks. Oh they are getting within a half second…nope timing just messed up and its actually 3🤦‍♂️

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People like you is why there’s no progress on anything. The “be happy and shut up” crowd.    none of us have a clue how to...

People like you is why there’s no progress on anything. The “be happy and shut up” crowd. 
 

none of us have a clue how to broadcast? Yeah no shit. It’s not our jobs. If it was my job people would expect me to do it well. That’s why I was hired. If I’m shitty at my job.. people complain and I have to do better.. I don’t say.. well why don’t so and so try my job. Well it’s not their fucking job. It’s mine. And I have to do it well. So no.. we don’t have to know how to broadcast. That’s their job. And they suck at it. 

MB19 wrote:
I’m more in the, don’t bitch about every little thing and be happy crowd. It’s not like you critique the show, you just go straight to...

I’m more in the, don’t bitch about every little thing and be happy crowd. It’s not like you critique the show, you just go straight to insults as if bondo screws up to personally piss you off. It’s funny that you think you posting “fuck you” on vitwlmx is what brings about change for the better. What if you’re at work and screw up, you cool with some stranger saying fuck you? Is that gonna help you to never make another mistake? Who knows, maybe you’re one of those perfect people who does everything perfect all the time.
As far as progress, remember where I said that it wasn’t long ago that we had to wait a month before watching a race? I realize that there are definitely ways to improve the broadcast and you know what, I guarantee peacock or whoever runs broadcasting, knows that too, without reading a bunch of angry dudes complaining about it on vital. If all of you angry guys get so pissed watching the races because the production value isn’t up to your standards, go watch baseball where you’re guaranteed to not miss any of the excitement 

Talon wrote:
Sorry dude. lm going to be honest here. Your opinion is pretty dog shit and I was debating even typing up a response. If I was...

Sorry dude. lm going to be honest here. Your opinion is pretty dog shit and I was debating even typing up a response. If I was just one guy out of a small group then I’d say you have a point. But this a big deal and it’s a big deal to thousands of people. Just look around social media. And besides, if you’re happy with the product but something comes out of bitching and it gets even better, why do you care? You’re over there mad that we want something better? Weird flex 

 

also, where on earth are you coming up with this “not Long ago we waited a month” bullshit? I was watching consistent 2 week tape delays in 1998. Nothing was a month. So you’re saying 30 years later we shouldn’t have a damn near perfected show? Comments like that are what makes me think you’re kinda a special guy. 

I appreciate you calling me special, means a lot…
First off, I was never mad about any of this. If you listened to what I was saying you’d see that I AGREE that it could be better. If bondo really is the problem, of course, get rid of him. But, a perfect live show is impossible, moto is unpredictable so perfect’s never gonna happen. And yes, it’d be awesome if it got better but I can actually enjoy watching the broadcast despite it not being perfect. Apparently you can’t so you go on vital and write “seriously fuck you bondo.” You think the broadcast executives are gonna see your post and be like, “Fire bondo immediately! Thank you Talon from vital Mx for that cryptic fuck you post. We’ll never let you down again”

 

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3/28/2024 5:25pm

Agree with most of the posts.  We want to watch racing. Every cut in interview is the same thing every time. We don’t care 🤪 

one thing that has been brought up by people I watch with and myself is the sound. Motor sports go to another level when you can hear what you are watching.  Sx has been so low on bike sound. So much better when you can hear the bike in whoops or blast a turn. Especially when the camera angle shows the speed. 

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MB19 wrote:
I’m more in the, don’t bitch about every little thing and be happy crowd. It’s not like you critique the show, you just go straight to...

I’m more in the, don’t bitch about every little thing and be happy crowd. It’s not like you critique the show, you just go straight to insults as if bondo screws up to personally piss you off. It’s funny that you think you posting “fuck you” on vitwlmx is what brings about change for the better. What if you’re at work and screw up, you cool with some stranger saying fuck you? Is that gonna help you to never make another mistake? Who knows, maybe you’re one of those perfect people who does everything perfect all the time.
As far as progress, remember where I said that it wasn’t long ago that we had to wait a month before watching a race? I realize that there are definitely ways to improve the broadcast and you know what, I guarantee peacock or whoever runs broadcasting, knows that too, without reading a bunch of angry dudes complaining about it on vital. If all of you angry guys get so pissed watching the races because the production value isn’t up to your standards, go watch baseball where you’re guaranteed to not miss any of the excitement 

Talon wrote:
Sorry dude. lm going to be honest here. Your opinion is pretty dog shit and I was debating even typing up a response. If I was...

Sorry dude. lm going to be honest here. Your opinion is pretty dog shit and I was debating even typing up a response. If I was just one guy out of a small group then I’d say you have a point. But this a big deal and it’s a big deal to thousands of people. Just look around social media. And besides, if you’re happy with the product but something comes out of bitching and it gets even better, why do you care? You’re over there mad that we want something better? Weird flex 

 

also, where on earth are you coming up with this “not Long ago we waited a month” bullshit? I was watching consistent 2 week tape delays in 1998. Nothing was a month. So you’re saying 30 years later we shouldn’t have a damn near perfected show? Comments like that are what makes me think you’re kinda a special guy. 

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I appreciate you calling me special, means a lot… First off, I was never mad about any of this. If you listened to what I was...

I appreciate you calling me special, means a lot…
First off, I was never mad about any of this. If you listened to what I was saying you’d see that I AGREE that it could be better. If bondo really is the problem, of course, get rid of him. But, a perfect live show is impossible, moto is unpredictable so perfect’s never gonna happen. And yes, it’d be awesome if it got better but I can actually enjoy watching the broadcast despite it not being perfect. Apparently you can’t so you go on vital and write “seriously fuck you bondo.” You think the broadcast executives are gonna see your post and be like, “Fire bondo immediately! Thank you Talon from vital Mx for that cryptic fuck you post. We’ll never let you down again”

 

It’s not my problem that out of all of the replies I’ve posted in this thread you only choose to hone in on the one sentence I said “fuck you” to bondo on and continue to make it the focal point of your argument. 
 

 

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I have no idea how many people are part of the production crew, but only two of them are any good, JT and Weeg. The rest...

I have no idea how many people are part of the production crew, but only two of them are any good, JT and Weeg. The rest need to go, maybe keep the camera men, because they go where they’re told. 
 

 RC was getting better, and than just regressed. It’s like he thinks he needs to sound intelligent, but ends up sounding ridiculous. He needs to sit back and talk like he’s bench racing with someone. 
 

 And Wil? I just want to shoot the tv every time she’s on. Her voice is soooo annoying, and she literally has nothing to add. 
 

 Yesterday was the first time I’ve watched race day live this year, they managed to ruin that too.  

I don’t think I’ve ever agreed with someone more on this forum. Everything here is just objectively true. 

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Alright guys. I’ve changed the thread topic. Let’s start a running tab on his producer skills. This thread can be like the weekly race links. Bitching in real time as the race unfolds 😂😂

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3/30/2024 8:49am Edited Date/Time 3/30/2024 9:09am
Talon wrote:
Alright guys. I’ve changed the thread topic. Let’s start a running tab on his producer skills. This thread can be like the weekly race links. Bitching...

Alright guys. I’ve changed the thread topic. Let’s start a running tab on his producer skills. This thread can be like the weekly race links. Bitching in real time as the race unfolds 😂😂

Did he show up to work today? I am logging an official complaint 

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Agree with most of the posts.  We want to watch racing. Every cut in interview is the same thing every time. We don’t care 🤪  one...

Agree with most of the posts.  We want to watch racing. Every cut in interview is the same thing every time. We don’t care 🤪 

one thing that has been brought up by people I watch with and myself is the sound. Motor sports go to another level when you can hear what you are watching.  Sx has been so low on bike sound. So much better when you can hear the bike in whoops or blast a turn. Especially when the camera angle shows the speed. 

Yes, I too would like to hear the sound of the bikes but hey let’s not give them something else to screw up…

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3/30/2024 10:42am Edited Date/Time 3/30/2024 11:50am

First complaint. 
 

RDL - How many times do we have to hear about how the triple crown is “unique”. Are they really just going to ask the same gd question everytime we have one of these. 

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STOP the interviews during qualifying! Who makes these stupid decisions? We want to watch the bikes not an interview 

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3/30/2024 11:00am Edited Date/Time 3/30/2024 11:24am

Jett does fast lap, inject Mookie rolling around and go away from a fast lap to watch Malcolm rolling through the rhythms. Great work gentlemen. Really great stuff. 

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Full screen interview with Jordon Smith while the 250 Group A guys are on track during qualifying. 

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Jett does fast lap, inject Mookie rolling around and go away from a fast lap to watch Malcolm rolling through the rhythms. Great work gentlemen. Really...

Jett does fast lap, inject Mookie rolling around and go away from a fast lap to watch Malcolm rolling through the rhythms. Great work gentlemen. Really great stuff. 

Did they actually catch anyone’s fast lap? Seen the top 4 switch up at the end as we were watching sexton “just looking at the track”

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3/30/2024 11:13am

ohh yeah they are on it tonight, have a feeling that this is going to be really bad one tonight.

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