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IMO bed size wins. Tundra doesn’t offer a large cab with a large bed. It’s so nice to be able to put three bikes in my bed and still close the tailgate.
Open a thread in non-moto if you want to discuss further.
...and yeah, I'm proud to not support them.
Seen two of these on the road recently.
I can't believe anyone wants to be seen in them. What a dork-wagon. Ugly as fawk....
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Bingo.... let's see how long the turbo motors last.
22r and a 5 speed manual. They should've stopped "improving" them right then and there
I agree....it's about fuel economy. It's why most new vehicles are coming with the small displacement turbo motors.
Think twice about owning one out of warranty.
I've been a big proponent of Toyota over the years.....but I'm not onboard with these turbo motors.
At this point I don't want to buy anything made since COVID. Manufacturers are having all sorts of quality issues since then.
Have the money to buy new, but I will buy used. One more reason I'm keeping my 22 year old "beater" V8 6-speed "daily driver".
Smart man. These newer vehicles will not last like the previous versions did.
If you can afford to buy a new vehicle every time the warranty is up....more power to you.
We could do that, but we prefer to keep vehicles a long time. Don't need to "keep up with the Joneses" and never will.
$$$$ in the bank is more important.
Every GM vehicle I ever owned with an automatic transmission had it fail before 100k miles.
Family members of ours currently own GM junk and the transmissions have gone bad.
It's too bad, I think the Silverado is one of the best looking trucks made right now. ....but I know better than to buy one.
(Man, I really wish this board had a multi-quote feature....I hate having to post multiple posts when quoting multiple people)
My 2005 Tundra SR5 Extended cab with a V8 only has 52,000 miles on it. Had it since new and the only big repair I have ever done was the water pump started leaking at about 36,000 miles. It was out of warranty but Toyota paid for half of it. I thought briefly of getting a new truck but heck I am 68 years old so this thing will still be going long after I’m not. Will keep it and maybe find a fun driving car.
This is sooo ironic. Guess where a majority of the Japanese manufacturing is? Right here in the US just like Ford and GM. Except not through the UAW. Japanese manufacturing is worse with hiring immigrants through a staffing company that pays their associates pennies on the dollar. Source? I see this stuff first hand as ive been employed in several Japanese's automotive supplier outfits.
I can guarantee you there is not much difference between the manufacturing of Japanese and American branded vehicles here in the US. They're all built the same.
Depending on condition you could prob still sell for over 20k if you wanted to That is super low miles for a almost 20 year old vehicle
On the Ecoboost forums theres tons of high mileage success stories. I know there's always a potential for failure on any extra moving parts though, i protected myself with the warranty. I read through GM forums often too and read about more failures there than Ford's.
I bought my wife an avalanche at one time. I bought it with 60k on it. At 90k it killed a motor because of the active fuel management. Same thing happened at 110. Those 5.3s have been touted as bullet proof but that truck bit my wallet hard and ill never buy another 5.3.
I dont know many people that keep vehicles as long as people over 50 like to.
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I guess that explains it. I'm 63 and still driving my 2002 F150. It was one of the last F150s to come with a 5-speed, which meant I got a sweet deal on it. I'll keep waiting to get that good a deal before I get a different truck.
I think they look really good wrapped
The 2.7 seems to be less problematic than the 3.5 but overall they are both great motors, just be sure to keep up on the oil changes. 5k miles MAX. Most of the popular problems (cam phasers, carbon buildup on the valves, etc) with the 3.5 all stem from extended oil change intervals
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OP - have you considered? It has a built in camper, gets 35 mpg, cost 5 grand, and is a manual, and is a sweet daily. Name a better rap sheet than that.
Tacoma's look really good, but they're also a V6 that sucks gas like a V8 and makes the power of a 4 cylinder.
With a blanket ?
Not the worst idea ever. Plus, putting the seats forward and sleeping inside is a bonus.
New Tacoma is a 4cyl turbo.
Welcome to the 21st century.
A gigantic garbage bag.
I mean seriously....I can't believe how freaking ugly those things are.
The technology and impact protection is beyond amazing though.
Yes....I posted later changing my vote. I did not know the new Tacos came with the turbos. Absolute deal killer for me.
All I know is I priced out the F-150 I'd buy if I was to get one today and it was 84k before taxes and crap. Like WTF? I'll stick with my 49k OTD 2019 RAM Laramie with 55k miles that's fully loaded and paid for.
You're correct! I own a 22 Tacoma. Sad but true. lol
My last ecoboost was a 2014, I replaced the turbos at 170k, then other shit started failing so replaced the truck with a newer ecoboost. Great towing, feels rapid for something so large, and the interior is comfy on long trips for the family. Easy choice.
That said, I want a Coyote next and to keep the thing forever.
In the last couple months I have rented a few trucks to haul bikes across the country, a tacoma, dodge 1500, and f150. I used a bike trailer, and the bikes were all larger touring bike (Goldwings, BMWs, and a couple Harleys). F150 had the most power, but was not very good at towing, transmission didnt feel right, and the truck as a whole was not stable. The Dodge was better at towing, but you really had to push it to make it go, and more stable. The Tacoma surprised me, it was a smaller truck, less power, but was actually very easy to tow with. My take away, the 1500 class trucks dont seem like much of a step up from the Tacoma class trucks, other then their physical size, when it comes to doing real truck work.
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