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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 9:41am
If a rider is an A rider in a non-AMA district, NESC, is he allowed to ride the Vet B/C class at LL?
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Justin314 3/23/2010 6:05am
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I don't believe so. It'd be sandbagging.
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That's the class i'm going to try qualifying for this year, so I would say no, get him out of there!

Seriously though, I think that the rules state if you've EVER raced A, you do not qualify for the VET B/C class.
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mxmat813 wrote:
That's the class i'm going to try qualifying for this year, so I would say no, get him out of there! Seriously though, I think that...
That's the class i'm going to try qualifying for this year, so I would say no, get him out of there!

Seriously though, I think that the rules state if you've EVER raced A, you do not qualify for the VET B/C class.
that is correct...
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Huckster 3/23/2010 6:10am
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that is what I thought, but I guess they dont check at the area's?

Matt are you going to Broome?

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jbomx363 3/23/2010 6:14am
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Huckster wrote:
that is what I thought, but I guess they dont check at the area's?

Matt are you going to Broome?
Well that's a good reason to cheat. "They don't check".

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mxmat813 3/23/2010 6:15am
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Yeah, it's the only area qualifier that's close to me. I'm not a fan of Broome but it's a half hour from my house. You?
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RNagy052 3/23/2010 6:21am
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They lat former Pro's run that class, so I don't see why not. More sandbagging in that class than the C classes.
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Huckster 3/23/2010 6:24am
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mxmat813 wrote:
Yeah, it's the only area qualifier that's close to me. I'm not a fan of Broome but it's a half hour from my house. You?
yea i am planning on being there.

When did they let "former pros" run that class since they changed it to B/C?
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motofab36 3/23/2010 6:40am
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Ask Kevin Cozzad.
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racin mason 3/23/2010 7:04am
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Why does everyone want to race the lowest class possible??Why not get some fake titties and a wig and run the womans class,what the hell no one is checking for pussies....
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Devil1nNj 3/23/2010 7:21am
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Was anyone here at the North East Qualifier at E-Town last weekend?
I was goin through Lukatis's pics (which were really good), and the gates did not seem full at all. I checked the MX Sports Results and couldn't tell if they only posted results to a certain position in each class, or were the gates that empty?
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racin mason wrote:
Why does everyone want to race the lowest class possible??Why not get some fake titties and a wig and run the womans class,what the hell no...
Why does everyone want to race the lowest class possible??Why not get some fake titties and a wig and run the womans class,what the hell no one is checking for pussies....
You may want to take a look at the options for a 30 year old vet rider before you start talking about fake titties.. Which by the way I have no problem with..
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Devil1nNj wrote:
Was anyone here at the North East Qualifier at E-Town last weekend? I was goin through Lukatis's pics (which were really good), and the gates did...
Was anyone here at the North East Qualifier at E-Town last weekend?
I was goin through Lukatis's pics (which were really good), and the gates did not seem full at all. I checked the MX Sports Results and couldn't tell if they only posted results to a certain position in each class, or were the gates that empty?
They were like that last year here in D14, Michigan area.
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rallendude 3/23/2010 7:28am
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Once an A rider, always an A rider.

In my experience, the early qualifiers are usually not very populated. Doesn't much matter anyway, the regional will be full and, in most classes, all you got to do is sign up to get that far.
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suzrider982 3/23/2010 7:30am
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talked to a friend who was there Saturday and said there wasn't a lot of people there.
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Huckster 3/23/2010 7:50am
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Devil1nNj wrote:
Was anyone here at the North East Qualifier at E-Town last weekend? I was goin through Lukatis's pics (which were really good), and the gates did...
Was anyone here at the North East Qualifier at E-Town last weekend?
I was goin through Lukatis's pics (which were really good), and the gates did not seem full at all. I checked the MX Sports Results and couldn't tell if they only posted results to a certain position in each class, or were the gates that empty?
my buddy and his kid raced. He raced +40 and said it was a decent turnout in that class. The results are up and +30 b/c is interesting....
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dl117 3/23/2010 7:51am
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I am thinking about the Vet b/c class, but I am a true B rider, I would get killed at LL, but it always worth trying
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racin mason wrote:
Why does everyone want to race the lowest class possible??Why not get some fake titties and a wig and run the womans class,what the hell no...
Why does everyone want to race the lowest class possible??Why not get some fake titties and a wig and run the womans class,what the hell no one is checking for pussies....
Laughing Laughing Laughing loviin' it Mason - but judging by some of the responses the sandbaggers don't get it. I guess the "If I can't win, I won't play" attitude doesn't seem childish and sad to a lot of guys....Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Devil1nNj wrote:
Was anyone here at the North East Qualifier at E-Town last weekend? I was goin through Lukatis's pics (which were really good), and the gates did...
Was anyone here at the North East Qualifier at E-Town last weekend?
I was goin through Lukatis's pics (which were really good), and the gates did not seem full at all. I checked the MX Sports Results and couldn't tell if they only posted results to a certain position in each class, or were the gates that empty?
Wasnt too bad. Joeys B classes had like 20. A class was just about the same. Alot of riders still in Texas for the GNC though...but the weather was awesome!
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Huckster 3/23/2010 8:59am
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I heard your son rode well as did Renzland.
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mxmat813 3/23/2010 9:52am
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Devil1nNj wrote:
Was anyone here at the North East Qualifier at E-Town last weekend? I was goin through Lukatis's pics (which were really good), and the gates did...
Was anyone here at the North East Qualifier at E-Town last weekend?
I was goin through Lukatis's pics (which were really good), and the gates did not seem full at all. I checked the MX Sports Results and couldn't tell if they only posted results to a certain position in each class, or were the gates that empty?
Huckster wrote:
my buddy and his kid raced. He raced +40 and said it was a decent turnout in that class. The results are up and +30 b/c...
my buddy and his kid raced. He raced +40 and said it was a decent turnout in that class. The results are up and +30 b/c is interesting....
Indeed, google search of the top two guys shows that they were running VET A and Plus 25A classes all the way back in 2007.

http://www.nationalvetmx.com/results.htm
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ehr400 3/23/2010 9:56am
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That is interesting. They should be DQ'd. I am a mid pack B rider at best. More then likely won't make it to LL's, but shit how do I even have a chance when "A" class dudes are pulling this shit. If this is true I declare shenanigans.
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mxrose3 3/23/2010 10:35am
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There is at least one rider listed in the 30+B/C class at Englishtown that finished in the top 3 that is an A rider in NESC. PM me if you want his name.
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Huckster 3/23/2010 10:59am
3/23/2010 10:59am Edited Date/Time 3/23/2010 11:02am
I know his name and he is well aware of his transgression, but seems to think that it is legal.

Matt I knew about the NESC rider but it looks as though he has company. What a joke. Where is the pride?
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knowitalloveragainnovice 3/23/2010 11:02am
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Let's just say the line at the protest table was very loooong this weekend.

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mxrose3 3/23/2010 11:06am
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Huckster wrote:
I know his name and he is well aware of his transgression, but seems to think that it is legal. Matt I knew about the NESC...
I know his name and he is well aware of his transgression, but seems to think that it is legal.

Matt I knew about the NESC rider but it looks as though he has company. What a joke. Where is the pride?
I would think that anybody that wanted to protest him would be successful. All that MXSports would have to do is lookup his results in NESC races.... but then again, its not an AMA recognized district, so who knows what they would do.
SlowOldGuy 3/23/2010 11:13am
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The rule is if you race up a class in AMA or non AMA competition, you must ride the higher class. Submit proof of the NESC results to MX Sports and that should be that.
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bobby397 3/23/2010 11:22am
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mxmat813 wrote:
That's the class i'm going to try qualifying for this year, so I would say no, get him out of there! Seriously though, I think that...
That's the class i'm going to try qualifying for this year, so I would say no, get him out of there!

Seriously though, I think that the rules state if you've EVER raced A, you do not qualify for the VET B/C class.
kw859 wrote:
that is correct...
answered by a 13x LL champ
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teggers 3/23/2010 11:36am
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Huckster wrote:
I know his name and he is well aware of his transgression, but seems to think that it is legal. Matt I knew about the NESC...
I know his name and he is well aware of his transgression, but seems to think that it is legal.

Matt I knew about the NESC rider but it looks as though he has company. What a joke. Where is the pride?
Last 4 words......
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DanDunes818 3/23/2010 11:41am
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If anyone knows the rules it would be kw859.. Bottom line is Mr. Novak will probably be DQ'ed.. The vital police have busted you sir.

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