Kove moto vs Triumph!

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This guy is doing no favours for Kove as a brand 

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2/27/2024 9:51am

So, who's the fast guy riding the Kove? 

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I dialed up my decoder ring and still don’t understand this post.  Guess I need an updated decoder ring.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

So, who's the fast guy riding the Kove? 

And on the other end, who’s the slow guys we’ve seen on a Triumph…? They have probably the best AND fastest testers in the industry as well as a Professional race team 

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Let me get this straight: Kove is talking shit on Triumph? 

Wow. This is gonna get interesting. 

So, at exactly WHICH SUPERCROSS did someone “fast” race a Kove? 

Look, I can give the folks at Kove some serious credit for competing in The Dakar. But, these guys here in the U.S….I’m gonna call’em Kove USA/the importer…well, they’re talking out there ass. 

Good luck with that. Laughing

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2/27/2024 10:06am

Rule #1 on hiring someone to manage social media for a business: At a minimum, choose someone able to pass 4th-grade English grammar.

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Rule #1 on hiring someone to manage social media for a business: At a minimum, choose someone able to pass 4th-grade English grammar.

This. Methinks Kove REALLY needs to re-think who has the password to their social accounts. This is just embarassing.

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2/27/2024 10:18am

Hey Kove - if it’s legit, why aren’t you sending  test units to the magazines and other moto media? Set up a ride day. It’s not rocket science…

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2/27/2024 10:18am Edited Date/Time 2/27/2024 10:19am

Rule #1 on hiring someone to manage social media for a business: At a minimum, choose someone able to pass 4th-grade English grammar.

kardy wrote:

This. Methinks Kove REALLY needs to re-think who has the password to their social accounts. This is just embarassing.

Just horrible 😂

I thought the IG comments from the Kove USA account were bad enough. Now he’s calling out Triumph lol

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2/27/2024 10:18am

I'm assuming he's talking about Carson Brown giving it a spin recently?

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Did they get professional125 to do their PR ?

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2/27/2024 10:20am Edited Date/Time 2/27/2024 10:22am

Sounds like a used car salesman - wheelies in every gear! 

This is the same dumbass saying the 250 was 231 pounds. But yet kove themselves said it weighed 237 lbs like the dirtbike test. 

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2/27/2024 10:21am
ATKpilot99 wrote:

Did they get professional125 to do their PR ?

No chance he does PR for anything other than a crisp CR125Woohoo

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

So, who's the fast guy riding the Kove? 

I'd assume Carson Brown and yes, it looked kinda slow hahaha

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studworx wrote:
And on the other end, who’s the slow guys we’ve seen on a Triumph…? They have probably the best AND fastest testers in the industry as...

And on the other end, who’s the slow guys we’ve seen on a Triumph…? They have probably the best AND fastest testers in the industry as well as a Professional race team 

I saw a clip of Carson Brown at Glen Helen on the Kove, but I don't know if he's the one pictured in the post you made.

If it's Brown, he's certainly not a slow rider by the definition of the word, however, if he's referring to Swoll and Ferry as slow, what would that make Brown?

Swoll has a podium in 250 SX and won a 250 MX national. 

Ferry is just starting his pro career so we don't have much to go off of except his amateur career. I know his amateur career wasn't as successful as a guy like AC, but I do know he has a couple Loretta Lynn's titles.

Carson Brown has no titles at Loretta's, one top 5 in 250 SX and his best national finish was an 18th overall at Washougal. 

Also, if the guy on the Kove is a pro/national rider, of course he'll to blow by everyone if he's on a track with weekend warriors/9-5ers. I wouldn't expect anything less. 

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ATKpilot99 wrote:

Did they get professional125 to do their PR ?

No chance he does PR for anything other than a crisp CR125

No chance he does PR for anything other than a crisp CR125Woohoo

Oh wait! You forgot the dual boost ports.Wink

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Clip of Brown. 

 

 

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2/27/2024 10:34am

That pic is from some random Chinese sx race. Like to know who these "fast guys" are. 

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Props to the 910 for not just saying the thing is a sack of shit. If the only potential, subjective plus side is that the teal makes it stand out as different, that's not so good though 😂

Who does this prick think he is trying to shit talk ANY other motorcycle manufacturer let alone one who's just developed a decent bike and gone racing in the best supercross series out there.

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2/27/2024 10:38am

Kove USA is creating a bigger issue if he’s going to play that game.. if the bike is marketed as a beginner, entry level bike then it’s probably good for that market and reviews will be made with that in mind. 
 

But calling out Triumph makes me believe he thinks it’s a capable race bike against the major OEM’s. Which… it’s not. And that will change the tune of the reviews it gets. 

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mark_swart wrote:
Hey Kove - if it’s legit, why aren’t you sending  test units to the magazines and other moto media? Set up a ride day. It’s not...

Hey Kove - if it’s legit, why aren’t you sending  test units to the magazines and other moto media? Set up a ride day. It’s not rocket science…

<cough>   <cough>  Stark <cough>

 

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If only we could get the same pro to ride all the bikes and compare them Dizzy

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It kind of sounds like some idiot bought into Kove as their US distributor, and now he's realised they're overgrown pitbike and is lashing out at other companies 😂

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Kove Moto USA/Joe Henner joined a few days ago. Maybe he'll chime in? https://www.vitalmx.com/community/hennermx#all Made his first post in the Kove 450 thread. 

Kove Moto USA/Joe Henner joined a few days ago. Maybe he'll chime in?

https://www.vitalmx.com/community/hennermx#all

Made his first post in the Kove 450 thread. 

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Wow one hell of a first post. 65 hp and 220lbs. Meaning 17 pounds lighter than their 250F and up 19 HP on it. impressive🤣

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I think you guys are missing the point, it's worded poorly but essentially what he's saying is that people are judging the bike based on internet videos (dumb) and their own pre-conceived notions about the quality because of where it was manufactured (slightly more valid but becoming bad practice).  There are a lot of internet experts out there who think they can judge a bike based on a 15 second instagram clip, but all they're really doing is looking to confirm the bias they've already created.  The point was that the bike should be judged with the same open mind that a Triumph or Honda would be rather than immediately dismissing it, especially considering most major brands are quietly moving production over to China as well.

 

However, when you word things poorly and riddle them with grammatical errors to the point where it's hard to even read that doesn't help your cause any, but his point is valid as far as I'm concerned.

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Maybe Twisted D could do some magic if we are just looking at performance. 

Anyway, I hate to say it, but when you claim xxx while you can easily know it is x and far off, that is not how it works.

Lots of transparency and honesty = a building brand image, even if everything is not perfect, that can be a good start. 

 

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2/27/2024 11:01am
-MAVERICK- wrote:

So, who's the fast guy riding the Kove? 

studworx wrote:
And on the other end, who’s the slow guys we’ve seen on a Triumph…? They have probably the best AND fastest testers in the industry as...

And on the other end, who’s the slow guys we’ve seen on a Triumph…? They have probably the best AND fastest testers in the industry as well as a Professional race team 

Pulpmx

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JM485 wrote:
I think you guys are missing the point, it's worded poorly but essentially what he's saying is that people are judging the bike based on internet...

I think you guys are missing the point, it's worded poorly but essentially what he's saying is that people are judging the bike based on internet videos (dumb) and their own pre-conceived notions about the quality because of where it was manufactured (slightly more valid but becoming bad practice).  There are a lot of internet experts out there who think they can judge a bike based on a 15 second instagram clip, but all they're really doing is looking to confirm the bias they've already created.  The point was that the bike should be judged with the same open mind that a Triumph or Honda would be rather than immediately dismissing it, especially considering most major brands are quietly moving production over to China as well.

 

However, when you word things poorly and riddle them with grammatical errors to the point where it's hard to even read that doesn't help your cause any, but his point is valid as far as I'm concerned.

Maybe so, but his other posts in IG comments and such have said otherwise. 
 

plus..

He originally said the 250F was 232lbs with 1.5 gal of fuel and 53 hp. It has 37hp and 237lbs with no fuel. 
 

Now the 450 is 220lbs without fuel and 65hp. 

He’s been telling guys the 450 was too fast and too light weight to get homologated. And it was actually so much under the 220lbs weight limit he couldn’t even add enough weight. This is something he really told people

When does this lying stop

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2/27/2024 11:06am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Kove Moto USA/Joe Henner joined a few days ago. Maybe he'll chime in? https://www.vitalmx.com/community/hennermx#all Made his first post in the Kove 450 thread. 

Kove Moto USA/Joe Henner joined a few days ago. Maybe he'll chime in?

https://www.vitalmx.com/community/hennermx#all

Made his first post in the Kove 450 thread. 

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I mean... 65hp? That sounds like a bit of a stretch in my opinion

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2/27/2024 11:11am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Kove Moto USA/Joe Henner joined a few days ago. Maybe he'll chime in? https://www.vitalmx.com/community/hennermx#all Made his first post in the Kove 450 thread. 

Kove Moto USA/Joe Henner joined a few days ago. Maybe he'll chime in?

https://www.vitalmx.com/community/hennermx#all

Made his first post in the Kove 450 thread. 

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CoverGH7 wrote:

I mean... 65hp? That sounds like a bit of a stretch in my opinion

Not really.... most motors make the best power just before they blow. Laughing

 

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