Gajser and Fernandez on the 2025 Honda

2/2/2024 12:03pm Edited Date/Time 2/2/2024 12:10pm
Funny they painted Pirelli on a Dunlop MX32 for the photos. The press release did say that they will be running Pirelli's so they are not...

Funny they painted Pirelli on a Dunlop MX32 for the photos. The press release did say that they will be running Pirelli's so they are not trying too hard to make people think they are Pirelli's.  No info on the bike in the press info. They call it a 2024 and go over the history of the development of the past few generations of CRF450.  Billet Ti pegs along with other pieces and lots of Ti bolts. Not really any info on the bike other than that.  The more I look at the high quality photos the more it grows on me and I like it.  It looks so clean and well put together. A real work of art.

 

THE TIRES ARE NOT DUNLOPS . I saw the word Scorpion under the painted letters and thought it was a Dunlop logo. Thanks to the other posters who corrected me. I wanted to just edit this and leave my mistake so the replies  correcting me make sense but also make sure that the info in this post was correct. 

cbarber wrote:

those are pirelli's. they painted pirelli over scorpion. you can even see the logo printed in the tire.

The front tire is, the rear is a Dunlop MX32. Take a closer look at it.

 

Edited to just say I was wrong. I thought the Scorpion word was Dunlop.  I looked at it closer and saw I was wrong. Thank You for pointing that out.

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2/2/2024 12:09pm

I thought it said Dunlop under the paint. I see that it is the word Scorpion now though. Thanks for pointing it out.Rear tire close up.jpg?VersionId=kr UpT6BdRChewC

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2/2/2024 12:13pm Edited Date/Time 2/2/2024 12:15pm
The front tire is, the rear is a Dunlop MX32. Take a closer look at it.   Edited to just say I was wrong. I thought...

The front tire is, the rear is a Dunlop MX32. Take a closer look at it.

 

Edited to just say I was wrong. I thought the Scorpion word was Dunlop.  I looked at it closer and saw I was wrong. Thank You for pointing that out.

well at least we got that cleared up lol

 

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2/2/2024 12:20pm
The front tire is, the rear is a Dunlop MX32. Take a closer look at it.   Edited to just say I was wrong. I thought...

The front tire is, the rear is a Dunlop MX32. Take a closer look at it.

 

Edited to just say I was wrong. I thought the Scorpion word was Dunlop.  I looked at it closer and saw I was wrong. Thank You for pointing that out.

ayearinmx wrote:

well at least we got that cleared up lol

 

I know, I went a little heavy on the retractions .  I just wanted to make sure I had the correct info.  I hate making mistakes.

 

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2/2/2024 12:25pm

88 cr all the way 

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2/2/2024 12:28pm

From the write up on the main page: "The airbox design is one of the biggest changes to the 2025 platform. It appears to split the difference between the outgoing production box, where the filter was upside down, and the factory box the US team runs where the air filter is located right above the throttle body and goes in from above. The new filter has been moved up higher but appears to be on its side."

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2/2/2024 12:45pm
Silas444 wrote:
Well, being unable to see something that's staring you straight in the face isn't unusual here, so I wouldn't be too concerned. In fact, I'd almost...

Well, being unable to see something that's staring you straight in the face isn't unusual here, so I wouldn't be too concerned.

In fact, I'd almost say turning a blind eye to the obvious is a Vital tradition.

280driver wrote:

I’m not concerned in the slightest.  I will be if you can show me a mid-‘80’s CR with ridiculously small shrouds and number plates.  

Silas444 wrote:
It would be my pleasure. Take a look at the 1983 CR125. The shrouds are about the size of a postage stamp. But it's not merely...

It would be my pleasure. Take a look at the 1983 CR125. The shrouds are about the size of a postage stamp. But it's not merely the small size of the shrouds, it's the simplicity of their design. In this, they have an unmistakably 80s retro feel to anyone not trying to argue for the sake of arguing, which, like turning a blind eye to the obvious, is something of a Vital tradition.

As far as the shrinking side panels go, I will agree, this is a current trend. It's based on the fact that side number plates are no longer necessary due to transponders being used at even the smallest of venues. Sad but true, the only remaining purpose side panels have is to collect mud and add weight, which is to say - they've outlasted their purpose.

Thus, like compression releases, fork braces, and twin shock suspensions, they should go.

You sure are full of yourself aren’t you?  LOL.  Glad you like it.  Moving on.

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2/2/2024 1:44pm
ayearinmx wrote:

well at least we got that cleared up lol

 

Jeez, I literally but all my nails off about the freakin tire thing… 

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2/2/2024 1:47pm Edited Date/Time 2/2/2024 1:49pm
280driver wrote:

I’m not concerned in the slightest.  I will be if you can show me a mid-‘80’s CR with ridiculously small shrouds and number plates.  

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2/2/2024 2:10pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:

Must be a shortage of plastic at the honda plant...WTFShocked

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2/2/2024 2:14pm

Absolutely hideous 

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2/2/2024 2:18pm
280driver wrote:

I’m not concerned in the slightest.  I will be if you can show me a mid-‘80’s CR with ridiculously small shrouds and number plates.  

burn1986 wrote:

IMG 0673 2

It shares similar lines with many of the 80s CR's. And I'm sure if it is unpopular there will be a restyled option. 

R-Tech has a restyled body kit for the 21-24 CRF's

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2/2/2024 2:30pm
280driver wrote:

You sure are full of yourself aren’t you?  LOL.  Glad you like it.  Moving on.

Throwing a sideways insult at me as you exit the conversation rather than simply admitting you were mistaken - yet another long-standing Vital tradition. That makes three in four posts, I think. Impressive.

You forgot to accuse me of being a "Stark Varg nut-hugger," but other than that, I think you covered all the bases.

 

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Who cares about looks. Is it comfortable to ride on a rough track? Is it stable?

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2/2/2024 2:47pm

Anybody have a front snap of the current gen? Looking at the front view of this 25’, shroud/radiator width looks significantly wider - almost Suzuki-like.

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I say it has an 82 cr250 vibe goin on.

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2/2/2024 3:11pm
JL13 wrote:
Anybody have a front snap of the current gen? Looking at the front view of this 25’, shroud/radiator width looks significantly wider - almost Suzuki-like.

Anybody have a front snap of the current gen? Looking at the front view of this 25’, shroud/radiator width looks significantly wider - almost Suzuki-like.

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2/2/2024 3:18pm
JL13 wrote:
Anybody have a front snap of the current gen? Looking at the front view of this 25’, shroud/radiator width looks significantly wider - almost Suzuki-like.

Anybody have a front snap of the current gen? Looking at the front view of this 25’, shroud/radiator width looks significantly wider - almost Suzuki-like.

IMG 8780 1

-MAVERICK- wrote:

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Ooph. Visually it does look to confirm that the 25’ is noticeably wider. 

2/2/2024 3:33pm

The mid-80's vibe hits me hard in the feels; absolutely love it!  

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2/2/2024 4:37pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2024 1:13pm

Man, so it is real. Someone posted a blurry pic of this on Reddit the other day and I actually thought it was a joke. 

Looks like a 2015 Husky / 1988 CR500 love child

shrouds

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2/2/2024 4:38pm
burn1986 wrote:

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Rad shroud on the other side was a tiny bit larger but I like where you are going Smile

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2/2/2024 5:01pm Edited Date/Time 2/2/2024 5:01pm
JL13 wrote:
Anybody have a front snap of the current gen? Looking at the front view of this 25’, shroud/radiator width looks significantly wider - almost Suzuki-like.

Anybody have a front snap of the current gen? Looking at the front view of this 25’, shroud/radiator width looks significantly wider - almost Suzuki-like.

IMG 8780 1

-MAVERICK- wrote:

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JL13 wrote:

Ooph. Visually it does look to confirm that the 25’ is noticeably wider. 

It looks wider , the proportions look off when I put the 2 images ontop of eachother in Photoshop. Looks like the 25 was sitting up higher than the photographer and the 21-24 was sitting level. When I size the front plates to the same size , the front wheels and foot peg heights are way different.The bars look wider on the 25. The reservoirs for the brake/clutch look to be farther out towards the ends of the bars. 

image-20240202200040-1Pegs lined upI did a quick photo shop with the bars/plate lined up. and then lined up the pegs in another. It looks slightly wider . but the camera angles could be messing with it.

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2/2/2024 5:03pm
OwenJakes wrote:

Absolutely hideous 

The Honda Hate is strong with this one. 

I think graphics can absolutely transform the way a bike looks, for instance

2024 Gas Gas MC450  ( HIDEOUS!) Compared to 2024 Gas Gas Factory Edition ( Beautiful )

I'm not a fan of this years HRC graphics compared to the 2023 ones, but I'm sure there will be better ones in the future.

Gas GasFactory edition gas gas

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Also, do manufacturer's consider the graphics that'll go on the bikes? I would think that would be one of the priorities when designing the shape, with...

Also, do manufacturer's consider the graphics that'll go on the bikes? I would think that would be one of the priorities when designing the shape, with the goal of leaving a nice big place for a logo to be stretched out across the shroud without cutting too much away from it with holes in the plastic.

On the 23 bike, they nailed this with where the CRF logo is. It looks great, it's easy to see and it's ideal for a potential sponsor to pay to have their logo in that spot.

I would think it would be a turn off for a company to know that their logo is going to be cut out through the middle or scaled down to fit in a smaller area. 

Hate to sound like I'm complaining but damn this bums me out. Maybe it's because it's not Friday yet. 

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soggy wrote:

These are some weird ass critiques.

Engineers spend 4 years designing state of the art performance machines.... only to have Vitards critique the graphics.  Woohoo

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

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JL13 wrote:

Ooph. Visually it does look to confirm that the 25’ is noticeably wider. 

It looks wider , the proportions look off when I put the 2 images ontop of eachother in Photoshop. Looks like the 25 was sitting up...

It looks wider , the proportions look off when I put the 2 images ontop of eachother in Photoshop. Looks like the 25 was sitting up higher than the photographer and the 21-24 was sitting level. When I size the front plates to the same size , the front wheels and foot peg heights are way different.The bars look wider on the 25. The reservoirs for the brake/clutch look to be farther out towards the ends of the bars. 

image-20240202200040-1Pegs lined upI did a quick photo shop with the bars/plate lined up. and then lined up the pegs in another. It looks slightly wider . but the camera angles could be messing with it.

Really appreciate you taking the time to do this!

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2/2/2024 6:57pm
OwenJakes wrote:

Absolutely hideous 

The Honda Hate is strong with this one.  I think graphics can absolutely transform the way a bike looks, for instance 2024 Gas Gas MC450  (...

The Honda Hate is strong with this one. 

I think graphics can absolutely transform the way a bike looks, for instance

2024 Gas Gas MC450  ( HIDEOUS!) Compared to 2024 Gas Gas Factory Edition ( Beautiful )

I'm not a fan of this years HRC graphics compared to the 2023 ones, but I'm sure there will be better ones in the future.

Gas GasFactory edition gas gas

It's the GasGas logo on the stocker that kills it for me. It's just awkward and fights the natural angles of the plastics/bike. The F.E. is awesome.

I actually like the 2025 CRF, different graphics will make a huge difference IMHO (as they do on the GasGas).

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 I made some quick 80's inspired renderings.  I have to do some work on orders today. I have some ideas for modern designs. But they will take more time. 
crf450r 1980's throwbackcrf450r 1980's throwback black rims red seat 0crf450r 1980's throwback black rims 0crf450r 1980's throwback RWB wing 0

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2/3/2024 9:59am
Also, do manufacturer's consider the graphics that'll go on the bikes? I would think that would be one of the priorities when designing the shape, with...

Also, do manufacturer's consider the graphics that'll go on the bikes? I would think that would be one of the priorities when designing the shape, with the goal of leaving a nice big place for a logo to be stretched out across the shroud without cutting too much away from it with holes in the plastic.

On the 23 bike, they nailed this with where the CRF logo is. It looks great, it's easy to see and it's ideal for a potential sponsor to pay to have their logo in that spot.

I would think it would be a turn off for a company to know that their logo is going to be cut out through the middle or scaled down to fit in a smaller area. 

Hate to sound like I'm complaining but damn this bums me out. Maybe it's because it's not Friday yet. 

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soggy wrote:

These are some weird ass critiques.

JB 19 wrote:
Engineers spend 4 years designing state of the art performance machines.... only to have Vitards critique the graphics.  

Engineers spend 4 years designing state of the art performance machines.... only to have Vitards critique the graphics.  Woohoo

And body shape, usually front fenders. 

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