pulp mx cooper webb interview

1/9/2024 10:17pm
Its worth a listen for sure.  I only listened to it once, but him talking about his health was very interesting. What disease/problem did he say...

Its worth a listen for sure. 

I only listened to it once, but him talking about his health was very interesting. What disease/problem did he say he had? He also said he had a parasite?

-He learned from working with Baker and combines that with what Swanny does.

Webb interview starts around the 2 hr 32 minute mark https://pulpmx.com/podcast/show-568-cooper-webb-phil-nicoletti-cade-clason-chad-reed-with-daniel-blair-in-studio/

truck wrote:
I know nothing of the specifics of webb's health beyond what was in that interview. He mentioned hashimoto's thyroiditis which is a real thing, but the...

I know nothing of the specifics of webb's health beyond what was in that interview. He mentioned hashimoto's thyroiditis which is a real thing, but the rest of what he mentioned................. parasites and e.coli..... no..... you were duped my friend. 

These guys are marks. They are highly motivated to be at their peak, not well educated, have money, and don't have the team infrastructure of other pro sports where team docs can help them sort through the crap. I cringe all the time listening to these guys talk about their health and the things they are doing. So much of it is total BS and relies almost entirely on placebo effect. They run tests for everything then tell you something isn't right and that their program or supplement will fix it. Even if you wanted to research it yourself a Google search just finds more of their crap to reinforce the idea. 

And don't think for a second that a degree or credential the person has protects you from this. Medicine is a total grind and a ton of people are looking for a way out. Getting paid cash to prescribe placebo out of a strip mall working bankers hours is a hell of a lot better gig than what a lot of doctors are working. Not much of a leap to convince yourself to go do it after the system has sucked your soul. 

We deworm dogs every 3 months are you suggesting humans are exempt from parasites? I was put on a anti parasite protocol by my Dr and literally had multiple climbing up the toilet bowl after I did my business, I like how people know what's best for other people.

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1/9/2024 10:20pm

I haven't seen Coop ride the way he did at A1 on a 450, he looked like he had that swag he had on the 250.

Another thing I noticed in this interview his vocabulary and speaking was much better than previous years, something I also experienced when I cleaned up my health.

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1/10/2024 1:00am
truck wrote:
You think, but you're wrong. Sorry. Not all resources are created equal but they all take cash.  You know what these clinics never do after they...

You think, but you're wrong. Sorry. Not all resources are created equal but they all take cash. 

You know what these clinics never do after they run the countless tests? They never say hey yeah looks like you're good, nothing to sell you. Keep up the good work! 

Truck how could you possibly know how good of a Doctor Cooper is being treated by?  And how can you doubt his health problems to the point you think it’s nonsense? 🤦‍♂️🙄

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1/10/2024 1:01am Edited Date/Time 1/10/2024 1:02am

I find it very interesting that people always say Webb has mental strength, yet I see the opposite- bare with me…..

I enjoyed Webb’s game playing and seeming tenacity at first, but then I saw that it was really only in play when everything was going well. It’s easy to be strong minded and psych the competition out when you’re at the top of your game.

However, what we saw when things weren’t going well painted a different picture. There was the “best off season ever”; how’d that play out? “I get paid to race”; then quit the season…..there’s plenty of examples of Webb going quiet when things aren’t going well.

And that’s not what mental strength is…..mental strength is hanging in there and walking the walk when in reality everything is going to shit.
Glad to see him back and competitive though, hope he carries it on.

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1/10/2024 1:14am
CPR wrote:
I find it very interesting that people always say Webb has mental strength, yet I see the opposite- bare with me….. I enjoyed Webb’s game playing...

I find it very interesting that people always say Webb has mental strength, yet I see the opposite- bare with me…..

I enjoyed Webb’s game playing and seeming tenacity at first, but then I saw that it was really only in play when everything was going well. It’s easy to be strong minded and psych the competition out when you’re at the top of your game.

However, what we saw when things weren’t going well painted a different picture. There was the “best off season ever”; how’d that play out? “I get paid to race”; then quit the season…..there’s plenty of examples of Webb going quiet when things aren’t going well.

And that’s not what mental strength is…..mental strength is hanging in there and walking the walk when in reality everything is going to shit.
Glad to see him back and competitive though, hope he carries it on.

The "I get paid to race" comment was directed at Roczen skipping nationals a few years ago to get his health in order, right? Now a few years later, Webb does the same thing in the midst of switching teams, but looks like he may have also been dealing with some health issues. 

The comment about AC at the finale along the lines of "He choked, I didn't" also really rubbed me the wrong way. I get that they were rivals during ams, but to publicly give such a low blow when AC was arguably at the lowest point in his life after giving up the championship - I dunno, those two incidents put me off and I never really found a reason to root for him since. 

Glad he looks competitive this year though, always a fan of more guys challenging for wins. Bring on the rest of the season! 

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CPR wrote:
I find it very interesting that people always say Webb has mental strength, yet I see the opposite- bare with me….. I enjoyed Webb’s game playing...

I find it very interesting that people always say Webb has mental strength, yet I see the opposite- bare with me…..

I enjoyed Webb’s game playing and seeming tenacity at first, but then I saw that it was really only in play when everything was going well. It’s easy to be strong minded and psych the competition out when you’re at the top of your game.

However, what we saw when things weren’t going well painted a different picture. There was the “best off season ever”; how’d that play out? “I get paid to race”; then quit the season…..there’s plenty of examples of Webb going quiet when things aren’t going well.

And that’s not what mental strength is…..mental strength is hanging in there and walking the walk when in reality everything is going to shit.
Glad to see him back and competitive though, hope he carries it on.

The "I get paid to race" comment was directed at Roczen skipping nationals a few years ago to get his health in order, right? Now a...

The "I get paid to race" comment was directed at Roczen skipping nationals a few years ago to get his health in order, right? Now a few years later, Webb does the same thing in the midst of switching teams, but looks like he may have also been dealing with some health issues. 

The comment about AC at the finale along the lines of "He choked, I didn't" also really rubbed me the wrong way. I get that they were rivals during ams, but to publicly give such a low blow when AC was arguably at the lowest point in his life after giving up the championship - I dunno, those two incidents put me off and I never really found a reason to root for him since. 

Glad he looks competitive this year though, always a fan of more guys challenging for wins. Bring on the rest of the season! 

If I remember rightly, happy to be corrected, but the “I get paid to race” was directed at Roczen pulling out of SX, then Webb pulled out of Outdoors?

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You think, but you're wrong. Sorry. Not all resources are created equal but they all take cash.  You know what these clinics never do after they...

You think, but you're wrong. Sorry. Not all resources are created equal but they all take cash. 

You know what these clinics never do after they run the countless tests? They never say hey yeah looks like you're good, nothing to sell you. Keep up the good work! 

125Rider wrote:
Truck how could you possibly know how good of a Doctor Cooper is being treated by?  And how can you doubt his health problems to the point...

Truck how could you possibly know how good of a Doctor Cooper is being treated by?  And how can you doubt his health problems to the point you think it’s nonsense? 🤦‍♂️🙄

Imagine someone who knows nothing about cars telling a mechanic all about the repairs another mechanic did on their car. If the first mechanic did a bunch of extra junk just to line their pockets and also fixed the actual small issue, the second mechanic isn't going to have much trouble picking up on that based on their conversation with the person. That person's car might be running better, they might have nothing but good things to say about the first mechanic, might even be considered "elite" by some.... but that doesn't change the reality of what happened and both mechanics know it. 

This is no different. Some of what has been sold to webb and others is total nonsense and its not hard to pick up on for those who are educated on the topics.

And this is the generous interpretation of what's going on. Go read up on Balco or the countless other methods of PEDs given out under the guise of medicine over the years if you want to get into the less generous option. 

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1/10/2024 2:43am
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Comprehension is king, hoss. Webb is not going to some strip mall quack slinging snake oil. Get you some good insurance bro. 

TbonesPop wrote:
I'm not aligning with Truck so don't take this the wrong way.  But I've gotten shit medical advice from the Mayo clinic on more than one...

I'm not aligning with Truck so don't take this the wrong way.  But I've gotten shit medical advice from the Mayo clinic on more than one occasion.  Most of the time, they have been great but they miss things just like everybody else does from time to time.  I had a condition they couldn't figure out after seeing 5 different specialists in the Mayo system.  They pretty much gave up on me.  Then got a personal friend referral to another doctor locally who is a specialist doctor for the AZ Cardinals.  He figured things out in one visit and I was better within a week.  8 months and 5 specialists at the Mayo clinic = no solution

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You solidified my point. Elite athletes see elite Dr’s such as the one you mentioned. Thing is they go straight to those types through connections and...

You solidified my point. Elite athletes see elite Dr’s such as the one you mentioned. Thing is they go straight to those types through connections and networking and eliminate the possibility of “getting a bad Dr” at the common folk level.  

This is not the case routinely, unfortunately. While not all the care they receive is substandard, particularly within large academic centers, athletes are frequently roped into BS testing, “treatment”, etc. by snake oil salesmen. Some of these people are actual medical doctors, but the majority are trainers, chiropractors, naturopaths, or self apppointed gurus.

 

Coop looked great on the bike in person at A1. The medical part of the interview on pulp didn’t have enough info to say much about except for the parasite and bacteria part. That’s very suspect. 

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CPR wrote:
I find it very interesting that people always say Webb has mental strength, yet I see the opposite- bare with me….. I enjoyed Webb’s game playing...

I find it very interesting that people always say Webb has mental strength, yet I see the opposite- bare with me…..

I enjoyed Webb’s game playing and seeming tenacity at first, but then I saw that it was really only in play when everything was going well. It’s easy to be strong minded and psych the competition out when you’re at the top of your game.

However, what we saw when things weren’t going well painted a different picture. There was the “best off season ever”; how’d that play out? “I get paid to race”; then quit the season…..there’s plenty of examples of Webb going quiet when things aren’t going well.

And that’s not what mental strength is…..mental strength is hanging in there and walking the walk when in reality everything is going to shit.
Glad to see him back and competitive though, hope he carries it on.

The "I get paid to race" comment was directed at Roczen skipping nationals a few years ago to get his health in order, right? Now a...

The "I get paid to race" comment was directed at Roczen skipping nationals a few years ago to get his health in order, right? Now a few years later, Webb does the same thing in the midst of switching teams, but looks like he may have also been dealing with some health issues. 

The comment about AC at the finale along the lines of "He choked, I didn't" also really rubbed me the wrong way. I get that they were rivals during ams, but to publicly give such a low blow when AC was arguably at the lowest point in his life after giving up the championship - I dunno, those two incidents put me off and I never really found a reason to root for him since. 

Glad he looks competitive this year though, always a fan of more guys challenging for wins. Bring on the rest of the season! 

I mean coop saying tht bout AC is no different from any other rival in any sport , u hear shit talking like tht all the time in UFC & boxing to sell the fights and to get your point across. not mention in the NBA when Reggie miller threw up the choke jester at a player , thts how it is when u have a brash athlete thts dgaf 🤷🏾‍♂️

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1/10/2024 3:50am Edited Date/Time 1/10/2024 3:50am
CPR wrote:
I find it very interesting that people always say Webb has mental strength, yet I see the opposite- bare with me….. I enjoyed Webb’s game playing...

I find it very interesting that people always say Webb has mental strength, yet I see the opposite- bare with me…..

I enjoyed Webb’s game playing and seeming tenacity at first, but then I saw that it was really only in play when everything was going well. It’s easy to be strong minded and psych the competition out when you’re at the top of your game.

However, what we saw when things weren’t going well painted a different picture. There was the “best off season ever”; how’d that play out? “I get paid to race”; then quit the season…..there’s plenty of examples of Webb going quiet when things aren’t going well.

And that’s not what mental strength is…..mental strength is hanging in there and walking the walk when in reality everything is going to shit.
Glad to see him back and competitive though, hope he carries it on.

The "I get paid to race" comment was directed at Roczen skipping nationals a few years ago to get his health in order, right? Now a...

The "I get paid to race" comment was directed at Roczen skipping nationals a few years ago to get his health in order, right? Now a few years later, Webb does the same thing in the midst of switching teams, but looks like he may have also been dealing with some health issues. 

The comment about AC at the finale along the lines of "He choked, I didn't" also really rubbed me the wrong way. I get that they were rivals during ams, but to publicly give such a low blow when AC was arguably at the lowest point in his life after giving up the championship - I dunno, those two incidents put me off and I never really found a reason to root for him since. 

Glad he looks competitive this year though, always a fan of more guys challenging for wins. Bring on the rest of the season! 

CPR wrote:
If I remember rightly, happy to be corrected, but the “I get paid to race” was directed at Roczen pulling out of SX, then Webb pulled...

If I remember rightly, happy to be corrected, but the “I get paid to race” was directed at Roczen pulling out of SX, then Webb pulled out of Outdoors?

Correct . He did some local level off road races instead. 

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When they asked him how do u beat Jett. He really didn't have an answer. He mumbled a round a bit. Said Jetts faster. Then said...

When they asked him how do u beat Jett. He really didn't have an answer. He mumbled a round a bit. Said Jetts faster. Then said he just needs to stay in it for 17 rounds it's a long time and see what happens.

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He's beaten guys for the title before that were faster than him. If there's anybody that can get in Jetts head and force him to get...

He's beaten guys for the title before that were faster than him. If there's anybody that can get in Jetts head and force him to get out of his comfort zone it's Webb

In 2019 I don’t think there was really anyone who was clearly faster than him. Marvin and Tomac beat him here and there but he was clearly the best guy all year. In 2021 Roczen was faster than him but he also had issues of his own that meant he couldn’t really put a full season or even full races together at times. IMO Jett is a different animal. I don’t think he’s just going be able to roll up on him at the end of races and pass him like he has with Roczen so many times 

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truck wrote:
You think, but you're wrong. Sorry. Not all resources are created equal but they all take cash.  You know what these clinics never do after they...

You think, but you're wrong. Sorry. Not all resources are created equal but they all take cash. 

You know what these clinics never do after they run the countless tests? They never say hey yeah looks like you're good, nothing to sell you. Keep up the good work! 

125Rider wrote:
Truck how could you possibly know how good of a Doctor Cooper is being treated by?  And how can you doubt his health problems to the point...

Truck how could you possibly know how good of a Doctor Cooper is being treated by?  And how can you doubt his health problems to the point you think it’s nonsense? 🤦‍♂️🙄

truck wrote:
Imagine someone who knows nothing about cars telling a mechanic all about the repairs another mechanic did on their car. If the first mechanic did a...

Imagine someone who knows nothing about cars telling a mechanic all about the repairs another mechanic did on their car. If the first mechanic did a bunch of extra junk just to line their pockets and also fixed the actual small issue, the second mechanic isn't going to have much trouble picking up on that based on their conversation with the person. That person's car might be running better, they might have nothing but good things to say about the first mechanic, might even be considered "elite" by some.... but that doesn't change the reality of what happened and both mechanics know it. 

This is no different. Some of what has been sold to webb and others is total nonsense and its not hard to pick up on for those who are educated on the topics.

And this is the generous interpretation of what's going on. Go read up on Balco or the countless other methods of PEDs given out under the guise of medicine over the years if you want to get into the less generous option. 

Okay, so it’s really DR Truck.  Should have just told us that in the beginning…🤦

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Its worth a listen for sure.  I only listened to it once, but him talking about his health was very interesting. What disease/problem did he say...

Its worth a listen for sure. 

I only listened to it once, but him talking about his health was very interesting. What disease/problem did he say he had? He also said he had a parasite?

-He learned from working with Baker and combines that with what Swanny does.

Webb interview starts around the 2 hr 32 minute mark https://pulpmx.com/podcast/show-568-cooper-webb-phil-nicoletti-cade-clason-chad-reed-with-daniel-blair-in-studio/

truck wrote:
I know nothing of the specifics of webb's health beyond what was in that interview. He mentioned hashimoto's thyroiditis which is a real thing, but the...

I know nothing of the specifics of webb's health beyond what was in that interview. He mentioned hashimoto's thyroiditis which is a real thing, but the rest of what he mentioned................. parasites and e.coli..... no..... you were duped my friend. 

These guys are marks. They are highly motivated to be at their peak, not well educated, have money, and don't have the team infrastructure of other pro sports where team docs can help them sort through the crap. I cringe all the time listening to these guys talk about their health and the things they are doing. So much of it is total BS and relies almost entirely on placebo effect. They run tests for everything then tell you something isn't right and that their program or supplement will fix it. Even if you wanted to research it yourself a Google search just finds more of their crap to reinforce the idea. 

And don't think for a second that a degree or credential the person has protects you from this. Medicine is a total grind and a ton of people are looking for a way out. Getting paid cash to prescribe placebo out of a strip mall working bankers hours is a hell of a lot better gig than what a lot of doctors are working. Not much of a leap to convince yourself to go do it after the system has sucked your soul. 

We deworm dogs every 3 months are you suggesting humans are exempt from parasites? I was put on a anti parasite protocol by my Dr and...

We deworm dogs every 3 months are you suggesting humans are exempt from parasites? I was put on a anti parasite protocol by my Dr and literally had multiple climbing up the toilet bowl after I did my business, I like how people know what's best for other people.

Parasites in humans is the elephant in the room. Most have no clue and should quietly research this topic and make the corrections as you choose for yourself. Freewill my friends.........

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crusty_xx wrote:
He's beaten guys for the title before that were faster than him. If there's anybody that can get in Jetts head and force him to get...

He's beaten guys for the title before that were faster than him. If there's anybody that can get in Jetts head and force him to get out of his comfort zone it's Webb

Yz450fkid wrote:
I'm not denying that. Just the way he answered the question. He didn't sound confident. And basically said Jett is fast. And he (webb) just has...

I'm not denying that.

Just the way he answered the question. He didn't sound confident. And basically said Jett is fast. And he (webb) just has to be there for the 17 races.

To me it almost sounded like in his head he couldn't outright beat him. Just waiting to see if jett makes a mistake.

TbonesPop wrote:
Why would a competitor let on as to how to beat another competitor that is as tough to beat as Jett is?  Just like when guys...

Why would a competitor let on as to how to beat another competitor that is as tough to beat as Jett is?  Just like when guys started to pressure Stew when he was faster, they will find weaknesses in Jett's riding at some point.  Just as in any sport, the bar always gets raised.  

Unless he has no weaknesses. We'll see. I don't think it's pressuring him, I can say that. We saw Chase practically riding on his seat, he was so close, for entire motos and he didn't crack. We haven't seen him come through the pack in sx yet

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truck wrote:
I know nothing of the specifics of webb's health beyond what was in that interview. He mentioned hashimoto's thyroiditis which is a real thing, but the...

I know nothing of the specifics of webb's health beyond what was in that interview. He mentioned hashimoto's thyroiditis which is a real thing, but the rest of what he mentioned................. parasites and e.coli..... no..... you were duped my friend. 

These guys are marks. They are highly motivated to be at their peak, not well educated, have money, and don't have the team infrastructure of other pro sports where team docs can help them sort through the crap. I cringe all the time listening to these guys talk about their health and the things they are doing. So much of it is total BS and relies almost entirely on placebo effect. They run tests for everything then tell you something isn't right and that their program or supplement will fix it. Even if you wanted to research it yourself a Google search just finds more of their crap to reinforce the idea. 

And don't think for a second that a degree or credential the person has protects you from this. Medicine is a total grind and a ton of people are looking for a way out. Getting paid cash to prescribe placebo out of a strip mall working bankers hours is a hell of a lot better gig than what a lot of doctors are working. Not much of a leap to convince yourself to go do it after the system has sucked your soul. 

We deworm dogs every 3 months are you suggesting humans are exempt from parasites? I was put on a anti parasite protocol by my Dr and...

We deworm dogs every 3 months are you suggesting humans are exempt from parasites? I was put on a anti parasite protocol by my Dr and literally had multiple climbing up the toilet bowl after I did my business, I like how people know what's best for other people.

Tim507 wrote:
Parasites in humans is the elephant in the room. Most have no clue and should quietly research this topic and make the corrections as you choose...

Parasites in humans is the elephant in the room. Most have no clue and should quietly research this topic and make the corrections as you choose for yourself. Freewill my friends.........

Some of us who are physicians who treat primarily athletes know that this is incorrect. 
 

Go Coop!

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In 2019 I don’t think there was really anyone who was clearly faster than him. Marvin and Tomac beat him here and there but he was...

In 2019 I don’t think there was really anyone who was clearly faster than him. Marvin and Tomac beat him here and there but he was clearly the best guy all year. In 2021 Roczen was faster than him but he also had issues of his own that meant he couldn’t really put a full season or even full races together at times. IMO Jett is a different animal. I don’t think he’s just going be able to roll up on him at the end of races and pass him like he has with Roczen so many times 

Disagree. In 2019 Tomac was the fastest guy, but had that weirdo stretch where he went 6-12-1-6 in Minneapolis, Arlington, Detroit, Atlanta and that cost him the title (had to go look up the cities again). Webb goes 1-1-2-1 in the same races.

In 2020, one could make a case that if Webb does not splatter himself in Arlington he maybe snakes that title from Eli. He was on fire when they came back for the Salt Lake Seven, and SLC3 2020 is one of the best mano a mano SX battles in modern times.

In 2021, Cooper was the fastest guy in the main events consistently. Don't forget because of the weirdo schedule there were no west coast races in 2021, so not much hard slick dirt and most races the whoops were soft, beat up and jumpy. My memory of that season is Webb just getting faster as the mains went on, and his ability on that 21 KTM to cut down in turns and shorten the track was unmatchable.

But yeah, Jett poses a whole new problem.

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CPR wrote:
I find it very interesting that people always say Webb has mental strength, yet I see the opposite- bare with me….. I enjoyed Webb’s game playing...

I find it very interesting that people always say Webb has mental strength, yet I see the opposite- bare with me…..

I enjoyed Webb’s game playing and seeming tenacity at first, but then I saw that it was really only in play when everything was going well. It’s easy to be strong minded and psych the competition out when you’re at the top of your game.

However, what we saw when things weren’t going well painted a different picture. There was the “best off season ever”; how’d that play out? “I get paid to race”; then quit the season…..there’s plenty of examples of Webb going quiet when things aren’t going well.

And that’s not what mental strength is…..mental strength is hanging in there and walking the walk when in reality everything is going to shit.
Glad to see him back and competitive though, hope he carries it on.

I see that you get the same response as i get when i mention it.

i am at the same page as you. It’s easy to be mentally strong when you are winning but when it gets tough it’s easy to run away and hide.

we all know the startgate nonsence in salt lake, but it’s strange that he never does that when he is in 10th or finger taunt guys over the finish line when he ends up in seventh.

 

the best thing is that none of the other riders seems to care about it. When he struggle they don’t care about him and never sink to the same douce level that he is at when he is ”mentally strong”..

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I'm not gonna lie. Seeing it in person, Webb barely even did anything to Lawrence, and look what happened. That's exactly what these guys need to do. I'm sick of seeing guys pull over for Jett and not giving him any kind of fight. Its too bad Webb got hung up by Anderson for so long. He probably could've put a charge on Jett for a good chunk of the race, just to see how that would've been.

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CPR wrote:
I find it very interesting that people always say Webb has mental strength, yet I see the opposite- bare with me….. I enjoyed Webb’s game playing...

I find it very interesting that people always say Webb has mental strength, yet I see the opposite- bare with me…..

I enjoyed Webb’s game playing and seeming tenacity at first, but then I saw that it was really only in play when everything was going well. It’s easy to be strong minded and psych the competition out when you’re at the top of your game.

However, what we saw when things weren’t going well painted a different picture. There was the “best off season ever”; how’d that play out? “I get paid to race”; then quit the season…..there’s plenty of examples of Webb going quiet when things aren’t going well.

And that’s not what mental strength is…..mental strength is hanging in there and walking the walk when in reality everything is going to shit.
Glad to see him back and competitive though, hope he carries it on.

The "I get paid to race" comment was directed at Roczen skipping nationals a few years ago to get his health in order, right? Now a...

The "I get paid to race" comment was directed at Roczen skipping nationals a few years ago to get his health in order, right? Now a few years later, Webb does the same thing in the midst of switching teams, but looks like he may have also been dealing with some health issues. 

The comment about AC at the finale along the lines of "He choked, I didn't" also really rubbed me the wrong way. I get that they were rivals during ams, but to publicly give such a low blow when AC was arguably at the lowest point in his life after giving up the championship - I dunno, those two incidents put me off and I never really found a reason to root for him since. 

Glad he looks competitive this year though, always a fan of more guys challenging for wins. Bring on the rest of the season! 

See, takes like this are what make me super confused about the SX/MX fan base. A lot of the people in this sport claim to be tough & hard-nosed, talking down on other "stick and ball" sports and say they're for softies.

But then a dude like Webb says some of the lightest, most harmless trash talk in sports history and the "tough" crowd that this sport attracts seem to get up in arms. 

I'm not saying you specifically are one of these people that act all tough-guy... just a general observation.

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When they asked him how do u beat Jett. He really didn't have an answer. He mumbled a round a bit. Said Jetts faster. Then said...

When they asked him how do u beat Jett. He really didn't have an answer. He mumbled a round a bit. Said Jetts faster. Then said he just needs to stay in it for 17 rounds it's a long time and see what happens.

crusty_xx wrote:
He's beaten guys for the title before that were faster than him. If there's anybody that can get in Jetts head and force him to get...

He's beaten guys for the title before that were faster than him. If there's anybody that can get in Jetts head and force him to get out of his comfort zone it's Webb

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In 2019 I don’t think there was really anyone who was clearly faster than him. Marvin and Tomac beat him here and there but he was...

In 2019 I don’t think there was really anyone who was clearly faster than him. Marvin and Tomac beat him here and there but he was clearly the best guy all year. In 2021 Roczen was faster than him but he also had issues of his own that meant he couldn’t really put a full season or even full races together at times. IMO Jett is a different animal. I don’t think he’s just going be able to roll up on him at the end of races and pass him like he has with Roczen so many times 

Agreed. 

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Yz450fkid wrote:
When they asked him how do u beat Jett. He really didn't have an answer. He mumbled a round a bit. Said Jetts faster. Then said...

When they asked him how do u beat Jett. He really didn't have an answer. He mumbled a round a bit. Said Jetts faster. Then said he just needs to stay in it for 17 rounds it's a long time and see what happens.

crusty_xx wrote:
He's beaten guys for the title before that were faster than him. If there's anybody that can get in Jetts head and force him to get...

He's beaten guys for the title before that were faster than him. If there's anybody that can get in Jetts head and force him to get out of his comfort zone it's Webb

Yz450fkid wrote:
I'm not denying that. Just the way he answered the question. He didn't sound confident. And basically said Jett is fast. And he (webb) just has...

I'm not denying that.

Just the way he answered the question. He didn't sound confident. And basically said Jett is fast. And he (webb) just has to be there for the 17 races.

To me it almost sounded like in his head he couldn't outright beat him. Just waiting to see if jett makes a mistake.

Jett is fast. And you do have to be in it for 17 rounds. What did he say that was incorrect or shows a lack of confidence? 

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I'm not gonna lie. Seeing it in person, Webb barely even did anything to Lawrence, and look what happened. That's exactly what these guys need to...

I'm not gonna lie. Seeing it in person, Webb barely even did anything to Lawrence, and look what happened. That's exactly what these guys need to do. I'm sick of seeing guys pull over for Jett and not giving him any kind of fight. Its too bad Webb got hung up by Anderson for so long. He probably could've put a charge on Jett for a good chunk of the race, just to see how that would've been.

What happened? Jett won the main when it mattered, that's what happened. They aren't pulling over for Jett, they're getting their doors blown off by him. 

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crusty_xx wrote:
He's beaten guys for the title before that were faster than him. If there's anybody that can get in Jetts head and force him to get...

He's beaten guys for the title before that were faster than him. If there's anybody that can get in Jetts head and force him to get out of his comfort zone it's Webb

Yz450fkid wrote:
I'm not denying that. Just the way he answered the question. He didn't sound confident. And basically said Jett is fast. And he (webb) just has...

I'm not denying that.

Just the way he answered the question. He didn't sound confident. And basically said Jett is fast. And he (webb) just has to be there for the 17 races.

To me it almost sounded like in his head he couldn't outright beat him. Just waiting to see if jett makes a mistake.

agn5008 wrote:
Jett is fast. And you do have to be in it for 17 rounds. What did he say that was incorrect or shows a lack of...

Jett is fast. And you do have to be in it for 17 rounds. What did he say that was incorrect or shows a lack of confidence? 

Did u listen to it.

The way he mumbled around for an answer. He didn't seem confident and he never had an answer. He said Jett was fast. Jett knows how to control the race and he just has to be there for 17 and see what happens. It wasn't like he was confident something would happen.

I was expecting him to say. Ahhh jetts a rookie. We just to to pressure him make him uncomfortable and force him into not being able to get 17 good results. 

 

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See, takes like this are what make me super confused about the SX/MX fan base. A lot of the people in this sport claim to be...

See, takes like this are what make me super confused about the SX/MX fan base. A lot of the people in this sport claim to be tough & hard-nosed, talking down on other "stick and ball" sports and say they're for softies.

But then a dude like Webb says some of the lightest, most harmless trash talk in sports history and the "tough" crowd that this sport attracts seem to get up in arms. 

I'm not saying you specifically are one of these people that act all tough-guy... just a general observation.

The problem is not that he says it, the problem is that if you are gonna run your mouth, you better back it up.

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The problem is not that he says it, the problem is that if you are gonna run your mouth, you better back it up.

He’s a five time champ.  He’s backed it up good enough for me.  

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Tumic wrote:

The problem is not that he says it, the problem is that if you are gonna run your mouth, you better back it up.

TogaSet wrote:

He’s a five time champ.  He’s backed it up good enough for me.  

Did he back up “best off season ever” or “I get paid to race”?
Because that’s what we’re talking about, not results.

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tomlopez wrote:
See, takes like this are what make me super confused about the SX/MX fan base. A lot of the people in this sport claim to be...

See, takes like this are what make me super confused about the SX/MX fan base. A lot of the people in this sport claim to be tough & hard-nosed, talking down on other "stick and ball" sports and say they're for softies.

But then a dude like Webb says some of the lightest, most harmless trash talk in sports history and the "tough" crowd that this sport attracts seem to get up in arms. 

I'm not saying you specifically are one of these people that act all tough-guy... just a general observation.

Eh, disagree. First, I'm 100% not someone that acts tough and looks down on other sports, although that can be a pretty accurate statement for the typical moto fanbase. 

Second, as I already mentioned, the comment toward AC was directly after the most heartbreaking moment in his life, losing a title at the last second that he's been working toward his whole life. I wouldn't say it was "light, harmless trash talk" - it just came across bitter and in poor taste, and completely unwarranted. When has AC ever said/done anything remotely negative towards anyone, ever? lol

And re: "I get paid to race", as others already mentioned, it was just hypocritical because he did the exact same thing a few years later. 

I know he tends to lean into the "tough guy, mentally strong" character, but it just comes across phony to me.

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