Just stop supporting brands that support Friese.

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Lol sanction Vince such a wild thought.

/ Vince wearing Alpine Stars one week so I by a pair of Thor boots.

/ next race Vince wearing Thor.

FUK!!!!!

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One could assume most of Vince's haters are former never made it novice racers living vicariously through their favorite riders. Jealous Vince has been racing pro...

One could assume most of Vince's haters are former never made it novice racers living vicariously through their favorite riders. Jealous Vince has been racing pro a decade or more with skill not near his competitors, staying in it with determination and guile they themselves could never muster.

Getting hole shots and then obstructing or taking cheap shots against actual good riders isn't "determination or guile".  Its clown behavior from a "never was". Vince...

Getting hole shots and then obstructing or taking cheap shots against actual good riders isn't "determination or guile".  Its clown behavior from a "never was".

Vince is a fast local guy who can't accept he doesn't have the goods to make it against the best.

He's been a professional motorcycle racer for over a decade. I don't believe that is debatable.

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He probably gets a bonus check from Feld. They were already using that footage last night of riders flying off their bikes for promotional purposes.

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One could assume most of Vince's haters are former never made it novice racers living vicariously through their favorite riders. Jealous Vince has been racing pro...

One could assume most of Vince's haters are former never made it novice racers living vicariously through their favorite riders. Jealous Vince has been racing pro a decade or more with skill not near his competitors, staying in it with determination and guile they themselves could never muster.

Getting hole shots and then obstructing or taking cheap shots against actual good riders isn't "determination or guile".  Its clown behavior from a "never was". Vince...

Getting hole shots and then obstructing or taking cheap shots against actual good riders isn't "determination or guile".  Its clown behavior from a "never was".

Vince is a fast local guy who can't accept he doesn't have the goods to make it against the best.

Spoonguy wrote:

He's been a professional motorcycle racer for over a decade. I don't believe that is debatable.

He has been pro since 2008, 16 years. Lot of top tens and has been paid to race. Placed third in a 250 regional championship. Two Lorretta Lynn's titles. Local fast guy indeed.

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Tell you what....if I was in the pits and I had a chance to walk up to any of the riders, I'd walk up to Vince and say: "Thanks man, for making racing interesting and the heart....fuck what the whiners think". Cool

Never gave Vince much thought before, he's not all that "likeable"...but think i'm gonna be a fan moving forward. 

I wonder who the lynch mob will turn to in their need to burn someone at the stake after Vince retires. 

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Tell you what....if I was in the pits and I had a chance to walk up to any of the riders, I'd walk up to Vince...

Tell you what....if I was in the pits and I had a chance to walk up to any of the riders, I'd walk up to Vince and say: "Thanks man, for making racing interesting and the heart....fuck what the whiners think". Cool

Never gave Vince much thought before, he's not all that "likeable"...but think i'm gonna be a fan moving forward. 

I wonder who the lynch mob will turn to in their need to burn someone at the stake after Vince retires. 

i dont get how ppl cry over friese and give barcia a pass. barcia takes pleasure in breaking people off and is absolutely incapable of taking it after dishing it. 

 

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Tell you what....if I was in the pits and I had a chance to walk up to any of the riders, I'd walk up to Vince...

Tell you what....if I was in the pits and I had a chance to walk up to any of the riders, I'd walk up to Vince and say: "Thanks man, for making racing interesting and the heart....fuck what the whiners think". Cool

Never gave Vince much thought before, he's not all that "likeable"...but think i'm gonna be a fan moving forward. 

I wonder who the lynch mob will turn to in their need to burn someone at the stake after Vince retires. 

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i dont get how ppl cry over friese and give barcia a pass. barcia takes pleasure in breaking people off and is absolutely incapable of taking...

i dont get how ppl cry over friese and give barcia a pass. barcia takes pleasure in breaking people off and is absolutely incapable of taking it after dishing it. 

 

Oh man.     I'm a big Barcia fan.      I love the way he rides.    Old school.

Barcia has taken his turns in the "burn the witch" mobs here on Vital plenty.   He's just on the back burner because the rabid/unhinged currently have their knives set on Vince. 

 

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I know a guy....lets get a cloudfund going......

 

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Vince does (and did) a bunch of d-bag moves, that's a fact, but on this particular action, he has the right like anyone on the gate to get the holeshot. Hunter should've been more aware of the riders around him and his own speed coming into the first turn.

I would also speculate on the fact that if the roles were reversed, most of the Vince haters would call the action as a "racing incident".

 

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Those companies also support a lot of other riders. If you want to stop supporting a company, stop supporting Leisure Concepts/SmarTop. The guy who owns the...

Those companies also support a lot of other riders.

If you want to stop supporting a company, stop supporting Leisure Concepts/SmarTop. The guy who owns the company is the one signing the cheques.   

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Not specifically to or at Mav…but, about this subject…in general and as it addresses the team: Mike spends a serious amount of money to run a...

Not specifically to or at Mav…but, about this subject…in general and as it addresses the team:

Mike spends a serious amount of money to run a team that races SX, WSX & the SMX play offs. While we may not love one of his riders, it’s not a reasonable position to slide into “cancel culture mode” just like it’s not reasonable to lay Hunter’s results on Vince. 

I’ve been fairly vocal about my angst and disappointment in Vince’s antics; but, calling for “Boycotts” or thinly veiled attempts to “cancel” teams and sponsors? 

I’m just gonna remind everyone that this is our sport and we’re historically NOT a punch of pussies; so, please…can we just stop this shit? 

About Mike Genova: he LOVES this sport. PERIOD. Does he have a history of having a rider…or 2…that wear black hats and cause a bit of drama? Yup!

Now, as some of us sit here and stew in our anger and hate…know this…there are people out there who’s job it is to police this stuff. And, regardless of wether or not you agree with me…or them…the people that “police” our sport HAVE been doing their job. 

I’m jus’ sayin’…

While I agree with the vast majority of your post, I could not disagree more that "people that police this sport HAVE been doing their job." Who? How? What have they done? 

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Is this thread about  the start incident?  Any rider who has a bike length lead heading into the first turn has the right to go for...

Is this thread about  the start incident? 
Any rider who has a bike length lead heading into the first turn has the right to go for the best line, that is the benefit of getting the holeshot. He did not blatantly cut anyone off, it’s up to Hunter to back off and give him the line. 

I don't know where Hunter Lawrence thought he was going to go.  He was on the gas while everyone else was slowing down for the turn. He's lucky he ran into the "Frieser" because he would have gone straight through the first turn, the next straight and the next. 

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Getting hole shots and then obstructing or taking cheap shots against actual good riders isn't "determination or guile".  Its clown behavior from a "never was". Vince...

Getting hole shots and then obstructing or taking cheap shots against actual good riders isn't "determination or guile".  Its clown behavior from a "never was".

Vince is a fast local guy who can't accept he doesn't have the goods to make it against the best.

Spoonguy wrote:

He's been a professional motorcycle racer for over a decade. I don't believe that is debatable.

Spoonguy wrote:
He has been pro since 2008, 16 years. Lot of top tens and has been paid to race. Placed third in a 250 regional championship. Two...

He has been pro since 2008, 16 years. Lot of top tens and has been paid to race. Placed third in a 250 regional championship. Two Lorretta Lynn's titles. Local fast guy indeed.

Very few pros ride like he does.  But the ones that do are actual contenders for wins.  Not consistently getting between 15th and 20th place and without any professional wins and only one lites class podium after 16 years of racing.

Even one of his Loretta's wins that you're bragging about is a B-class win... from 2007.  He's a clown who can't hang with the fast guys so he rides like a moron.

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The Vince thing is kind of intriguing tbh. Some of the wrecks and takeouts really are just racing. Some are Vince being a douche. Im mostly intrigued because it is ALWAYS Vince. his fault or not how in the heck does it always involve him lol 

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Spot on....  this says it all right here.  ^^^^^

 

The thumbsuckers are pissed one of their golden-boys shit the bed all on his own.

 

Vince has never had a podium or even a top 5 in the 450 class.  He never has been or will be in contention. You don't...

Vince has never had a podium or even a top 5 in the 450 class.  He never has been or will be in contention.

You don't have to think Hunter is a golden boy to realize that Vince is a hack who's only talent is getting hole shots and taking cheap shots.  Nobody has ever mentioned Vince's name outside of mentioning he has done something unnecessary and moronic.

So Vince and Hunter are even on podiums and top 5?

The start was not on Vince. If half the field tried as hard as Vince, the field would be truly stacked.

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He's been a professional motorcycle racer for over a decade. I don't believe that is debatable.

Spoonguy wrote:
He has been pro since 2008, 16 years. Lot of top tens and has been paid to race. Placed third in a 250 regional championship. Two...

He has been pro since 2008, 16 years. Lot of top tens and has been paid to race. Placed third in a 250 regional championship. Two Lorretta Lynn's titles. Local fast guy indeed.

Very few pros ride like he does.  But the ones that do are actual contenders for wins.  Not consistently getting between 15th and 20th place and...

Very few pros ride like he does.  But the ones that do are actual contenders for wins.  Not consistently getting between 15th and 20th place and without any professional wins and only one lites class podium after 16 years of racing.

Even one of his Loretta's wins that you're bragging about is a B-class win... from 2007.  He's a clown who can't hang with the fast guys so he rides like a moron.

Not bragging about anything friend, just stated fact. Perhaps a B class championship at Lorettas means nothing to you, but many would be proud of it. That he can maintain a paying job racing motocross seventeen years later speaks volumes as well. As far as him never winning a pro race, I believe most pros have never won in the pro supercross ranks, and most pros don't achieve what Friese has either. Plenty of guys out there racing pro who are happy making night shows at supercrosses, are you so dismissive of their skills too? The notion that if you don't win in this sport you are disposable is elitist and ignorant.

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He has been pro since 2008, 16 years. Lot of top tens and has been paid to race. Placed third in a 250 regional championship. Two...

He has been pro since 2008, 16 years. Lot of top tens and has been paid to race. Placed third in a 250 regional championship. Two Lorretta Lynn's titles. Local fast guy indeed.

Very few pros ride like he does.  But the ones that do are actual contenders for wins.  Not consistently getting between 15th and 20th place and...

Very few pros ride like he does.  But the ones that do are actual contenders for wins.  Not consistently getting between 15th and 20th place and without any professional wins and only one lites class podium after 16 years of racing.

Even one of his Loretta's wins that you're bragging about is a B-class win... from 2007.  He's a clown who can't hang with the fast guys so he rides like a moron.

Spoonguy wrote:
Not bragging about anything friend, just stated fact. Perhaps a B class championship at Lorettas means nothing to you, but many would be proud of it...

Not bragging about anything friend, just stated fact. Perhaps a B class championship at Lorettas means nothing to you, but many would be proud of it. That he can maintain a paying job racing motocross seventeen years later speaks volumes as well. As far as him never winning a pro race, I believe most pros have never won in the pro supercross ranks, and most pros don't achieve what Friese has either. Plenty of guys out there racing pro who are happy making night shows at supercrosses, are you so dismissive of their skills too? The notion that if you don't win in this sport you are disposable is elitist and ignorant.

Im not dismissing anyone's skills.  Friese clearly has the talent to be a professional racer.  But he is not a fast pro and never has been.  He has no wins ever as a pro and not a single premier class podium, yet he races every turn as if it's for the title. 

The majority of pros have no wins.  Most racers will never have a win and only a few will even podium.  The issue isn't wins or not.  The issue is riding in an absolutely reckless and dangerous manner while contending for nothing.

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Vince does (and did) a bunch of d-bag moves, that's a fact, but on this particular action, he has the right like anyone on the gate...

Vince does (and did) a bunch of d-bag moves, that's a fact, but on this particular action, he has the right like anyone on the gate to get the holeshot. Hunter should've been more aware of the riders around him and his own speed coming into the first turn.

I would also speculate on the fact that if the roles were reversed, most of the Vince haters would call the action as a "racing incident".

 

Yea..so Vince has a “right” to cut over and for sure Hunter should have been quicker maybe to see….but most riders don’t make that move, cutting so sharp inside, because it is clear there will be contact and the move could take someone, including themselves, out.  Vince isn’t smart enough, or respectful, to think about that.  He proves that in a dumb ass takeout of Dean on the first lap for something like 11th place….on lap one.  He dislocated his own shoulder on a dumb ass takeout.  He’s literally the dumbest pro rider with the worst racecraft out there and shows it almost every race.  That combined with the total lack of respect, and risk of injuring others, and you have someone that is bad for the sport. 
…now cue the idiots that like to watch punks sucker punch people on TikTok crowd.

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He has been pro since 2008, 16 years. Lot of top tens and has been paid to race. Placed third in a 250 regional championship. Two...

He has been pro since 2008, 16 years. Lot of top tens and has been paid to race. Placed third in a 250 regional championship. Two Lorretta Lynn's titles. Local fast guy indeed.

Very few pros ride like he does.  But the ones that do are actual contenders for wins.  Not consistently getting between 15th and 20th place and...

Very few pros ride like he does.  But the ones that do are actual contenders for wins.  Not consistently getting between 15th and 20th place and without any professional wins and only one lites class podium after 16 years of racing.

Even one of his Loretta's wins that you're bragging about is a B-class win... from 2007.  He's a clown who can't hang with the fast guys so he rides like a moron.

Spoonguy wrote:
Not bragging about anything friend, just stated fact. Perhaps a B class championship at Lorettas means nothing to you, but many would be proud of it...

Not bragging about anything friend, just stated fact. Perhaps a B class championship at Lorettas means nothing to you, but many would be proud of it. That he can maintain a paying job racing motocross seventeen years later speaks volumes as well. As far as him never winning a pro race, I believe most pros have never won in the pro supercross ranks, and most pros don't achieve what Friese has either. Plenty of guys out there racing pro who are happy making night shows at supercrosses, are you so dismissive of their skills too? The notion that if you don't win in this sport you are disposable is elitist and ignorant.

 

 

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Very few pros ride like he does.  But the ones that do are actual contenders for wins.  Not consistently getting between 15th and 20th place and...

Very few pros ride like he does.  But the ones that do are actual contenders for wins.  Not consistently getting between 15th and 20th place and without any professional wins and only one lites class podium after 16 years of racing.

Even one of his Loretta's wins that you're bragging about is a B-class win... from 2007.  He's a clown who can't hang with the fast guys so he rides like a moron.

Spoonguy wrote:
Not bragging about anything friend, just stated fact. Perhaps a B class championship at Lorettas means nothing to you, but many would be proud of it...

Not bragging about anything friend, just stated fact. Perhaps a B class championship at Lorettas means nothing to you, but many would be proud of it. That he can maintain a paying job racing motocross seventeen years later speaks volumes as well. As far as him never winning a pro race, I believe most pros have never won in the pro supercross ranks, and most pros don't achieve what Friese has either. Plenty of guys out there racing pro who are happy making night shows at supercrosses, are you so dismissive of their skills too? The notion that if you don't win in this sport you are disposable is elitist and ignorant.

Im not dismissing anyone's skills.  Friese clearly has the talent to be a professional racer.  But he is not a fast pro and never has been. ...

Im not dismissing anyone's skills.  Friese clearly has the talent to be a professional racer.  But he is not a fast pro and never has been.  He has no wins ever as a pro and not a single premier class podium, yet he races every turn as if it's for the title. 

The majority of pros have no wins.  Most racers will never have a win and only a few will even podium.  The issue isn't wins or not.  The issue is riding in an absolutely reckless and dangerous manner while contending for nothing.

So pro riders shouldn't fight for every position? If they are in 12th just ride around? Look behind themselves before entering a turn so they don't take a line away from someone behind them? No doubt Friese has questionable moves at times, more than most, but the absolute panic people have when he takes the track, obsessing his every move borders mania. He's been pro 16-17 years, Tomac, Webb, Sexton, most of the really fast guys never bitch about him. I think Roczen had a problem with him once, but typically it's guys who are disappointed in their own results anyway without Friese.

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It might be the only way as a fan you can actually do anything about your dislike of Vince. Stop giving money to companies that support...

It might be the only way as a fan you can actually do anything about your dislike of Vince. Stop giving money to companies that support him. 

Agree. I've been thinking this way since the 2022 WSX final where Vince's mechanic Ryan offered Harlan $2,000 to take out Brayton. The team owner or those sponsors never did address it.

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It might be the only way as a fan you can actually do anything about your dislike of Vince. Stop giving money to companies that support...

It might be the only way as a fan you can actually do anything about your dislike of Vince. Stop giving money to companies that support him. 

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Agree. I've been thinking this way since the 2022 WSX final where Vince's mechanic Ryan offered Harlan $2,000 to take out Brayton. The team owner or...

Agree. I've been thinking this way since the 2022 WSX final where Vince's mechanic Ryan offered Harlan $2,000 to take out Brayton. The team owner or those sponsors never did address it.

So many examples of why the FIM and AMA are just a joke that caves to owner/sponsor influence.  Vince offers another rider money to take someone out and not shit happens…. or is even talked about.  Vince knew it was his only chance and has no moral compass at all.  All part of the MO of a dirty rider that is bad for the sport and should have been banned.  I blame the AMA and FIM for that.  They don’t want to even have the conversation Mike and Tony.  

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Vince does (and did) a bunch of d-bag moves, that's a fact, but on this particular action, he has the right like anyone on the gate...

Vince does (and did) a bunch of d-bag moves, that's a fact, but on this particular action, he has the right like anyone on the gate to get the holeshot. Hunter should've been more aware of the riders around him and his own speed coming into the first turn.

I would also speculate on the fact that if the roles were reversed, most of the Vince haters would call the action as a "racing incident".

 

We need more 2002 DV type racers would you agree DV. 🐍 

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Bought time this turd of a thread got flushed....

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I buy items from the riders I appreciate. That said if I see they use the same brand as Vince. I have multiple riders I like, I can shoose another item from another favorite rider.

The problem with Friese is not the single incidents but rather that he has in so many races taken out podium candidates where I was looking forward to a good race. He takes the enjoyment from watching the racing away for me. And it's my right to not want to look like him while riding my bike. The purpose of sponsoring riders is to sell products by making the products look good. I don't think one single brand on his bike looks good. Rather they look like brands that don't care about the sport. So I cancel the hell out of them in my purchases and actively choose products from great riders with skill and personality.

There is a line for me. I don't try to push my beliefs unto others but I have nothing against explaining why I do what I do.

Now I just hope we can have a few Vince-free races and see all the other riders fighting.

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He probably gets a bonus check from Feld. They were already using that footage last night of riders flying off their bikes for promotional purposes.

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There ya go, and people cry because they dont think the riders are getting paid. Cool

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