Is Friese Good For Our Sport?

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11/6/2023 6:23am

If I was a top 5 supercross racer fighting for a AMA championship and a much less talented Squid like Vince Friese blatantly took me out and ruined my chances for a title, regardless of what the penalty was going to be, I'd blindside that POS and knock out all of his front teeth, so he'd never be able to eat Corn on the Cob ever again.   The guy put a bounty on Roczen and Brayton in his desperation of some sort of title and it's unforgiveable   Yeah! he's bad for the Sport. 

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11/6/2023 6:30am

He's such a moron. He's the #1 man of racing behind him. He's never faster than the rider behind him. Track clown.

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11/6/2023 6:35am

At this point if Vince takes you out you have to look in the mirror and accept the blame yourself. 

If you take your brand-new car to the bad side of town and leave it with the keys in the door whose fault is it when it gets jacked? 

Same thing if you leave Vince an opening where he can take the line or the front wheel. 

Doesn't make Vince right but right and wrong don't mean squat when you are laying on the ground instead of jumping the finish line jump. 

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11/6/2023 6:53am

I'd say, good old fashioned aggressive riding is very good for our sport...but Vince Friese is not.

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11/6/2023 7:12am

I’ve never been a fan of takeout riding. Barcia included. Generally he does it moving forward, not trying to hold on going backwards. 
 

He had to ride the way he does , wide , with jerk moves because if not , he wouldn’t get results. 

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11/6/2023 7:28am

No, VF is a C$%t...cross jumping, brake checking whilst he is going backwards..Even Barcia has way more respect. 

I ain't voting..Vince is a fucking first class tool..

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11/6/2023 7:33am
McG194 wrote:
At this point if Vince takes you out you have to look in the mirror and accept the blame yourself.  If you take your brand-new car...

At this point if Vince takes you out you have to look in the mirror and accept the blame yourself. 

If you take your brand-new car to the bad side of town and leave it with the keys in the door whose fault is it when it gets jacked? 

Same thing if you leave Vince an opening where he can take the line or the front wheel. 

Doesn't make Vince right but right and wrong don't mean squat when you are laying on the ground instead of jumping the finish line jump. 

Bru, it's not so much the take outs, if you opened your ears and listened to what the guys are saying, it all about Vince's cross jumping and brake checking...he can't keep up so he starts fucking with everyone who is trying to pass him..the guy is a fucking loser....

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11/6/2023 7:38am

Not a fan...  Surprised we haven't really had to deal with someone taking him out behind the woodshed since Weston.

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11/6/2023 7:42am

It's ironic that he rides for Tony Alessi, and also rides a lot like Mike Alessi. Get the holeshot, then spend the rest of the race looking over his shoulder trying to block the faster riders from getting by. 

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11/6/2023 7:43am

As a Brit, I find him to be somewhat entertaining but no way is he good for the sport, he’s dirty plain as, although sometimes you need a character like that but he takes it too far imo

11/6/2023 8:13am
Magoofan wrote:
Based on the poll.... 70% of you would not have done well in the 1970's/80's..... Looks like it's Friese week in the "lynching" pool.     ...

Based on the poll.... 70% of you would not have done well in the 1970's/80's.....

Looks like it's Friese week in the "lynching" pool.        Vital gotta hate on someone. 

 

Well I'm just gonna guess , but perhaps IF we were still in the 70's or 80s Vince might not have been a problem.  But we are not . And clean racing results in longer battles. 

What would you rather watch. A guy get the wholeshot, and then another rider come up and run him wide right off the track after 2 corners of being close. And then gap him by 25 seconds.  OR 2 or more guys start 1st and 2nd riding clean that pass each other back and forth multiple times over the entire 30minite moto and cross the finish a bike length apart?  For me the second is more exciting and what I would rather watch.

In the past I did enjoy racing others hard and bumping each other. It was fun for me and the other riders who were OK racing like that.   Then I had a battle that lasted the entire moto and it changed how I liked to race.  In my opinion it makes for a less exciting race when You have a quick takeout or have a guy that another racer is worried about them cross jumping or taking them out. If guys that don't mind the increased risk of injury want to race each other that way, that's one thing. But when so many riders dislike how Vince rides it's another.  

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11/6/2023 8:22am

Not cross jumping is one of the first things you learn not to do because it is a dangerous way to ride. This is some racing 101 stuff.
I don’t know why this is so difficult to understand 😂

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11/6/2023 11:08am

If todays riders had to ride with Bob Hannah they would all be crying like babbies!

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11/6/2023 11:11am
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If todays riders had to ride with Bob Hannah they would all be crying like babbies!

What's a babbie ? 

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11/6/2023 11:20am
Magoofan wrote:
Based on the poll.... 70% of you would not have done well in the 1970's/80's..... Looks like it's Friese week in the "lynching" pool.     ...

Based on the poll.... 70% of you would not have done well in the 1970's/80's.....

Looks like it's Friese week in the "lynching" pool.        Vital gotta hate on someone. 

 

Listen to the actual rider interviews, 100% of them are not cool with it. So are the pro riders also vital lynching enthusiasts in your book?

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11/6/2023 11:22am
Magoofan wrote:
Based on the poll.... 70% of you would not have done well in the 1970's/80's..... Looks like it's Friese week in the "lynching" pool.     ...

Based on the poll.... 70% of you would not have done well in the 1970's/80's.....

Looks like it's Friese week in the "lynching" pool.        Vital gotta hate on someone. 

 

You always conveniently ignore that the speeds were about 70% lower back in those days too.

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11/6/2023 11:43am

Is Friese in 250 SX again next year? Man I'm just thinking if he pulls that kind of riding with Danger Boy, the Deegan Nation of fans will probably be showing up at his house.

 

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11/6/2023 12:07pm

The way I see it, Vince is out there racing according to the customary rules of sport, and for your entertainment. If vince wasn't out there half the same crowd would be crying that the race was too boring

All of this harassment and online bullying of vince friese has to be the most embarassing thing about the whole MX industry. Just weird little guys pretending to be morally upright while hiding behind a keyboard, making threats and so on because they don't like the outcome of a game.

At a certain point it gets bad when more and more people join the mob to try and have vince blacklisted or demonetized or whatever exactly y'all are trying to do.

this behavior starts to present as a form of gang-stalking after a while

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11/6/2023 12:08pm
jaysimpson wrote:
The way I see it, Vince is out there racing according to the customary rules of sport, and for your entertainment. If vince wasn't out there...

The way I see it, Vince is out there racing according to the customary rules of sport, and for your entertainment. If vince wasn't out there half the same crowd would be crying that the race was too boring

All of this harassment and online bullying of vince friese has to be the most embarassing thing about the whole MX industry. Just weird little guys pretending to be morally upright while hiding behind a keyboard, making threats and so on because they don't like the outcome of a game.

At a certain point it gets bad when more and more people join the mob to try and have vince blacklisted or demonetized or whatever exactly y'all are trying to do.

this behavior starts to present as a form of gang-stalking after a while

With all due respect....you're an idiot.

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11/6/2023 12:14pm

Hell I wish the dude had a full time 450 in sx this year. 

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11/6/2023 12:24pm
mark_swart wrote:
Is Friese in 250 SX again next year? Man I'm just thinking if he pulls that kind of riding with Danger Boy, the Deegan Nation of...

Is Friese in 250 SX again next year? Man I'm just thinking if he pulls that kind of riding with Danger Boy, the Deegan Nation of fans will probably be showing up at his house.

 

Riding 250 SX and some 450 rounds. 

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11/6/2023 12:27pm
jaysimpson wrote:
The way I see it, Vince is out there racing according to the customary rules of sport, and for your entertainment. If vince wasn't out there...

The way I see it, Vince is out there racing according to the customary rules of sport, and for your entertainment. If vince wasn't out there half the same crowd would be crying that the race was too boring

All of this harassment and online bullying of vince friese has to be the most embarassing thing about the whole MX industry. Just weird little guys pretending to be morally upright while hiding behind a keyboard, making threats and so on because they don't like the outcome of a game.

At a certain point it gets bad when more and more people join the mob to try and have vince blacklisted or demonetized or whatever exactly y'all are trying to do.

this behavior starts to present as a form of gang-stalking after a while

Sorry to hear you are having trouble navigating the internet without it scaring you.  If you really talk to moto fans, you'll realize a lot of them are good people.  Best of luck overcoming your fears.

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11/6/2023 12:33pm
jaysimpson wrote:
The way I see it, Vince is out there racing according to the customary rules of sport, and for your entertainment. If vince wasn't out there...

The way I see it, Vince is out there racing according to the customary rules of sport, and for your entertainment. If vince wasn't out there half the same crowd would be crying that the race was too boring

All of this harassment and online bullying of vince friese has to be the most embarassing thing about the whole MX industry. Just weird little guys pretending to be morally upright while hiding behind a keyboard, making threats and so on because they don't like the outcome of a game.

At a certain point it gets bad when more and more people join the mob to try and have vince blacklisted or demonetized or whatever exactly y'all are trying to do.

this behavior starts to present as a form of gang-stalking after a while

In what "customary racing" rule book can you leave the track and gain an advantage? Or jump on a red-cross flag (him and DW15 should have been docked 5 positions in moto 1)?

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11/6/2023 12:58pm

Vince Friese is stealing the spotlight, not with titles, but with his unapologetically aggressive riding style. His penchant for block passing and pushing the envelope has divided the fanbase, but here's my perspective: it's exactly the kind of drama that keeps the wheels of excitement spinning in WSX.

Friese isn't just participating; he's commanding attention, dictating the pace, and making sure that every race is as much about survival as it is about speed. Some say he's playing dirty, but I argue he's just playing to win. The track isn't a place for the timid, and his take-no-prisoners approach is a throwback to the raw, gritty roots of Supercross.

I see a lot of hate being thrown his way, but let's flip the script. Isn't it the responsibility of the other riders to step up their game and meet the challenge? If they're not happy being on the receiving end of Friese's aggressive tactics, perhaps it's time they dish out their own brand of racing justice.

So, let's open the floor: Is Vince Friese crossing the line with his assertive style, or is he injecting a much-needed edge into WSX's nascent legacy? Should the other riders retaliate on the track, or rise above and beat him at his own game?

Weigh in with your opinions and let's dissect the role of aggression in the evolution of WSX!

(Thank you to chatGPT for making my 2 sentence forumreply into a blogpost)

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Ridelow wrote:
Vince Friese is stealing the spotlight, not with titles, but with his unapologetically aggressive riding style. His penchant for block passing and pushing the envelope has...

Vince Friese is stealing the spotlight, not with titles, but with his unapologetically aggressive riding style. His penchant for block passing and pushing the envelope has divided the fanbase, but here's my perspective: it's exactly the kind of drama that keeps the wheels of excitement spinning in WSX.

Friese isn't just participating; he's commanding attention, dictating the pace, and making sure that every race is as much about survival as it is about speed. Some say he's playing dirty, but I argue he's just playing to win. The track isn't a place for the timid, and his take-no-prisoners approach is a throwback to the raw, gritty roots of Supercross.

I see a lot of hate being thrown his way, but let's flip the script. Isn't it the responsibility of the other riders to step up their game and meet the challenge? If they're not happy being on the receiving end of Friese's aggressive tactics, perhaps it's time they dish out their own brand of racing justice.

So, let's open the floor: Is Vince Friese crossing the line with his assertive style, or is he injecting a much-needed edge into WSX's nascent legacy? Should the other riders retaliate on the track, or rise above and beat him at his own game?

Weigh in with your opinions and let's dissect the role of aggression in the evolution of WSX!

(Thank you to chatGPT for making my 2 sentence forumreply into a blogpost)

Woohoo Idiot.

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11/6/2023 1:16pm
jaysimpson wrote:
The way I see it, Vince is out there racing according to the customary rules of sport, and for your entertainment. If vince wasn't out there...

The way I see it, Vince is out there racing according to the customary rules of sport, and for your entertainment. If vince wasn't out there half the same crowd would be crying that the race was too boring

All of this harassment and online bullying of vince friese has to be the most embarassing thing about the whole MX industry. Just weird little guys pretending to be morally upright while hiding behind a keyboard, making threats and so on because they don't like the outcome of a game.

At a certain point it gets bad when more and more people join the mob to try and have vince blacklisted or demonetized or whatever exactly y'all are trying to do.

this behavior starts to present as a form of gang-stalking after a while

Online bullying..... join the mob..... gang stalking......

It's always the biggest pieces of shit that cry victim the loudest when the natural consequences of their choices finally catch up with them..... 

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11/6/2023 2:03pm
jaysimpson wrote:
The way I see it, Vince is out there racing according to the customary rules of sport, and for your entertainment. If vince wasn't out there...

The way I see it, Vince is out there racing according to the customary rules of sport, and for your entertainment. If vince wasn't out there half the same crowd would be crying that the race was too boring

All of this harassment and online bullying of vince friese has to be the most embarassing thing about the whole MX industry. Just weird little guys pretending to be morally upright while hiding behind a keyboard, making threats and so on because they don't like the outcome of a game.

At a certain point it gets bad when more and more people join the mob to try and have vince blacklisted or demonetized or whatever exactly y'all are trying to do.

this behavior starts to present as a form of gang-stalking after a while

Did you watch the races ?  Guys pass him and he immediately goes for a take out move.  If he wasn’t there , those guys would have been racing forward and maybe we see some actual battling , not blocking. 
 

He’s earned the reputation, it’s not a one off incident.  
 

As far as it being customary, eras change. 80’s basketball wouldn’t fly today , nor would that style of racing.  Speeds are now higher than they were , and much more flow oriented.   

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11/6/2023 2:08pm
Flatliner wrote:
Did you watch the races ?  Guys pass him and he immediately goes for a take out move.  If he wasn’t there , those guys would...

Did you watch the races ?  Guys pass him and he immediately goes for a take out move.  If he wasn’t there , those guys would have been racing forward and maybe we see some actual battling , not blocking. 
 

He’s earned the reputation, it’s not a one off incident.  
 

As far as it being customary, eras change. 80’s basketball wouldn’t fly today , nor would that style of racing.  Speeds are now higher than they were , and much more flow oriented.   

I think you mispronounced "the sport now has a cancel culture / mob type mentality that it adopted from the political far left"

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11/6/2023 2:17pm
Flatliner wrote:
Did you watch the races ?  Guys pass him and he immediately goes for a take out move.  If he wasn’t there , those guys would...

Did you watch the races ?  Guys pass him and he immediately goes for a take out move.  If he wasn’t there , those guys would have been racing forward and maybe we see some actual battling , not blocking. 
 

He’s earned the reputation, it’s not a one off incident.  
 

As far as it being customary, eras change. 80’s basketball wouldn’t fly today , nor would that style of racing.  Speeds are now higher than they were , and much more flow oriented.   

jaysimpson wrote:

I think you mispronounced "the sport now has a cancel culture / mob type mentality that it adopted from the political far left"

Can we get an unfollow button please. 

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11/6/2023 4:07pm
Flatliner wrote:
Did you watch the races ?  Guys pass him and he immediately goes for a take out move.  If he wasn’t there , those guys would...

Did you watch the races ?  Guys pass him and he immediately goes for a take out move.  If he wasn’t there , those guys would have been racing forward and maybe we see some actual battling , not blocking. 
 

He’s earned the reputation, it’s not a one off incident.  
 

As far as it being customary, eras change. 80’s basketball wouldn’t fly today , nor would that style of racing.  Speeds are now higher than they were , and much more flow oriented.   

jaysimpson wrote:

I think you mispronounced "the sport now has a cancel culture / mob type mentality that it adopted from the political far left"

B Gotti wrote:

Can we get an unfollow button please. 

 There's a really useful forum IGNORE feature and it works great.

It works like this.   When you see certain users posts, you scroll past them without reading them. Cool   

It's worked great for me. 

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