Should the MXDN go to a bi-yearly format?

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When you look at other major international sporting events like the Ryder Cup and the Olympics, they are contested every 2 or 4 years.  Would the MXDN benefit from moving to a different schedule?  

Also, what about a separate event that pitted the different series against each other?  AMA Pro Motocross vs MXGP vs Canadian MX series vs Japan MX series vs Australian series?  You could select teams of 5 from each series to compete in the different classes and it would be for series pride on off years from country pride.  

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10/13/2023 7:07am

Let me ask you this... I doubt you'll be able to answer honestly, but if the USA was winning every year, would you still be asking this question?

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10/13/2023 7:19am

I think it should, just like every other sport that has these kids of events.  It ups the prestige.  Or maybe switch it every other year with an event that brings together the top 10 from the four collective classes from the us and gps for a 40 man gate of the best of the best. Instead of the mxdn each year. With a big enough pay day to get them to show up. 

 

But it will always be yearly.  They aren't passing up on that kind of money.  

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10/13/2023 7:24am
Let me ask you this... I doubt you'll be able to answer honestly, but if the USA was winning every year, would you still be asking...

Let me ask you this... I doubt you'll be able to answer honestly, but if the USA was winning every year, would you still be asking this question?

For me, yes.  Mainly because of the rest and cost arguments.  Those can't be issues strictly for the US team.  I think you'd see increased participation from areas outside of the MXGP circuit as well (Canada, Mexico, etc.).  

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10/13/2023 7:27am
Let me ask you this... I doubt you'll be able to answer honestly, but if the USA was winning every year, would you still be asking...

Let me ask you this... I doubt you'll be able to answer honestly, but if the USA was winning every year, would you still be asking this question?

So..:if it’s not the answer you want—-he isn’t being honest. Got it. 

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10/13/2023 7:35am Edited Date/Time 10/13/2023 12:23pm

No.  When USA was winning every year, no one was complaining about schedules, paying out of pockets, contracts, not enough prep time, etc.  They went and they rode. 

These riders need to learn to do the same.  Losing should be a good valuable lesson, and with the exception of winning in our backyard, it's clear the US riders have a lot to learn.

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10/13/2023 7:39am

I don't care about the U.S. winning, and I usually root for the Netherlands, but I think it should be every four years. Being like Tanel Leok and doing 30 straight is really cool, but every rider should say, "I only get a couple of these in my career while I'm at the top, I need to go do it." Then it becomes a generational thing. FIFA, Olympics, even the Baseball World Classic gets some hype.

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10/13/2023 7:42am

No.

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10/13/2023 7:45am

Every year 

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10/13/2023 7:46am
El Capitan wrote:

So..:if it’s not the answer you want—-he isn’t being honest. Got it. 

Well nobody was asking these questions when USA was on a 7 year winning streak so I think you get why I'd be skeptical of his thought process. I think the answer is that it would definitely benefit the US to have it every 2 or 4 years because their schedule is so damn busy now with the off season supercross races, but no other countries are really struggling to send their best every year. It's a shame that supercross has taken precedent over the biggest race of the year for the Americans. 

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10/13/2023 7:53am
El Capitan wrote:

So..:if it’s not the answer you want—-he isn’t being honest. Got it. 

Well nobody was asking these questions when USA was on a 7 year winning streak so I think you get why I'd be skeptical of his...

Well nobody was asking these questions when USA was on a 7 year winning streak so I think you get why I'd be skeptical of his thought process. I think the answer is that it would definitely benefit the US to have it every 2 or 4 years because their schedule is so damn busy now with the off season supercross races, but no other countries are really struggling to send their best every year. It's a shame that supercross has taken precedent over the biggest race of the year for the Americans. 

You assume the worst in all Americans. Got it. Keep digging that hole. 

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10/13/2023 8:03am
El Capitan wrote:

You assume the worst in all Americans. Got it. Keep digging that hole. 

I assume the worst in everyone if it makes you feel better

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10/13/2023 8:21am

It’s kinda of like the 250 SX class, it needs a revamp, I just don’t have the perfect answer.  

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El Capitan wrote:

So..:if it’s not the answer you want—-he isn’t being honest. Got it. 

Well nobody was asking these questions when USA was on a 7 year winning streak so I think you get why I'd be skeptical of his...

Well nobody was asking these questions when USA was on a 7 year winning streak so I think you get why I'd be skeptical of his thought process. I think the answer is that it would definitely benefit the US to have it every 2 or 4 years because their schedule is so damn busy now with the off season supercross races, but no other countries are really struggling to send their best every year. It's a shame that supercross has taken precedent over the biggest race of the year for the Americans. 

How do you know nobody asked the questions....it's a moot point because Luongo won't do it because of the $$$$$

You ready for your country to break the string of home countries winning the MXDN.....

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El Capitan wrote:

You assume the worst in all Americans. Got it. Keep digging that hole. 

I assume the worst in everyone if it makes you feel better

Such a fucking ray of sunshine....

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10/13/2023 9:02am

Wanting to lose less often Don?

 

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10/13/2023 9:15am

No. I never ever go to this event and think, ‘I wish we had less of this’ 

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10/13/2023 9:15am
El Capitan wrote:

You assume the worst in all Americans. Got it. Keep digging that hole. 

I assume the worst in everyone if it makes you feel better

Clearly. I hope you find inner peace someday. A lot of good folks out there across the globe…

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10/13/2023 9:16am
ksithumper wrote:

Wanting to lose less often Don?

 

How many wins does your country have?

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No.

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ksithumper wrote:

Wanting to lose less often Don?

 

Where did I say that? I think the event every year is great I've been to many of them over the years and enjoy them and the atmosphere that this event creates.....like I said it's moot point because Luongo wants the money

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10/13/2023 9:20am
visser62 wrote:
I don't care about the U.S. winning, and I usually root for the Netherlands, but I think it should be every four years. Being like Tanel...

I don't care about the U.S. winning, and I usually root for the Netherlands, but I think it should be every four years. Being like Tanel Leok and doing 30 straight is really cool, but every rider should say, "I only get a couple of these in my career while I'm at the top, I need to go do it." Then it becomes a generational thing. FIFA, Olympics, even the Baseball World Classic gets some hype.

Four years would be genuinely ridiculous. This isn’t football, or athletics, where you see the best against the best all the time outside of the World Cup or Olympics. This is our one chance in the moto world to see most of the top guys in the same place at the same time. Limiting that happening to once every four years would be a monumental self own for the sport 

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10/13/2023 9:22am

The question should have been...   why are we not supporting this race properly every year?

 

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10/13/2023 9:27am

Maybe every 2 years. Definitely not 4. 
 

With how injury prone our sport is, if the race was only every 4 years there would be a higher probability of top tier guys never being able to compete. 

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No.

 That needs an addition :

F**k No!

 It's been going / set up as a yearly event for decades.

It's Not the Olympics, it's Not the World Cup, it's Not the Ryder cup.

It's The MXdN - well, the MXoN since they felt the need to Anglicize it. 

If it's not important to some - mostly now it seems to the 'some', no longer having domination - well, such is life.

That there is now, recently,  more racing in the country that the 'some' now have, that makes it less appealing to the 'some', well, it's how it is. The MXdN this year was moved specifically to accommodate the new US events - it was set to be earlier. One of your most favoured riders set his Wedding date to (originally) suit it / his attendance. 

That an utter Bastard and his company / company he now is in partnership with make money from it - well, it s**ts me that said Utter Bastard does, but it's Always been a Big event, and thus, potentially, if not inevitably,  a big earner for whoever the promoter was. Look to pictures of the vast crowds at events well before Luongo The Drongo got a hold of it.

Now, I'd say there's a few non US people that may want it to Not be a yearly event, but I'd say the vast majority that want it changed, are from the US - wanting it to suit them. And that's just a 'insert your favourite derogatory word ' attitude.

It's too expensive / we can't afford it / we should get paid  ( though Yes, I'd like to see a far higher payout, and travel assistance for All) because 'we're we'- AKA - the US Team -? Cripes, we are forever bombarded by how much money is present in US racing, yet the "crying poor" attitude is stunning.

I know of the costs of representing your Country. Over a few decades ( and admittedly, just under two decades ago was the last time) I had the Honour to represent my Country in a few Sports overseas from my Teens into my 40s - and I paid for it All. I sat down a few years ago and totted it all up, and it  was Six figures in cost, to Me.  I never (and never would have got) had any assistance with the cost. The experiences were priceless to me. And, it got me addicted to travel - so a few more six figure sums have been spent since my more active, representative sporting years.  

Yearly - as it always has been. 

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10/13/2023 9:39am

Summer Olympics once every four years while still possibly having something annually.

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10/13/2023 9:40am
Let me ask you this... I doubt you'll be able to answer honestly, but if the USA was winning every year, would you still be asking...

Let me ask you this... I doubt you'll be able to answer honestly, but if the USA was winning every year, would you still be asking this question?

Dude I was in love with the sport and the race years before we had our run.

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10/13/2023 9:45am

I am torn on that. I think having it every other year would make it a bit more prestigious and make more of the top guys want to be apart each year. People forget that some riders skip them when it comes to the USA races (see Gajser) and obviously we know about USA going to Europe. BUT, I do love this time of year and nothing gets me more excited than packing my bag to head off for the Nations every year! I guess I stand on the "keep it as it is" side.

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10/13/2023 10:02am

I love the race.   Don't want any certain country to dominate it either as that gets boring.   I do however feel it would be best that every 3rd year it goes to the USA as we have a huge population of the pro riders based here and we certainly have some of the best tracks.  It just seems easier for most of the teams and riders to travel.  

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10/13/2023 10:17am

Hard no.

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10/13/2023 10:27am

If you don't send a really good team every year chances are somebody else is going to win. I have no problem with that. Having more countries in contention is better for everyones interest and excitment. Just wish there was a better way to help cover costs for the tracks and teams.

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