Ordering a Triumph MX bike

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DadBod86 10/5/2023 1:33pm
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Shred wrote:
I was considering waiting for my new bike purchase for the Triumph….but…the only opinions so far on how the bike is are all from paid by...

I was considering waiting for my new bike purchase for the Triumph….but…the only opinions so far on how the bike is are all from paid by Triumph reps and employees.  Still no independent reviews.  Also…the fact that Triumph time lines make a glacier seems like Niagara Falls.  Any after market stuff will be very slow and limited to roll out for this bike.

The aftermarket stuff will come pretty quickly I would imagine 

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Shred 10/5/2023 1:39pm
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Shred wrote:
I was considering waiting for my new bike purchase for the Triumph….but…the only opinions so far on how the bike is are all from paid by...

I was considering waiting for my new bike purchase for the Triumph….but…the only opinions so far on how the bike is are all from paid by Triumph reps and employees.  Still no independent reviews.  Also…the fact that Triumph time lines make a glacier seems like Niagara Falls.  Any after market stuff will be very slow and limited to roll out for this bike.

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The aftermarket stuff will come pretty quickly I would imagine 

No way…super limited number of customers on only a 250.  Not worth it for most to design and tool for it.  They are businesses in business to make money.

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soggy 10/5/2023 1:41pm
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HS_Hasbeen wrote:

Triumph sells 100K bikes worldwide.  I would assume they need to sell more than 400 in the US to make back their R&D on this model.

They wouldn’t expect to make back all there r&d money in the first year. I’m thinking they’ll make 1-2000 in there first year. 

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HonDawg17 10/5/2023 1:49pm
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LewDizzle wrote:

What comes first?....The Triumph or The Stark?

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Honestly? I bet they'll ship Triumphs starting in December. And blow past the amount of Stark units shipped to date in a matter of 3 months. 

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Som comparing a manufacture that's be around for over 100 years to one that just started a few years ago seems resonable.   

Som comparing a manufacture that's be around for over 100 years to one that just started a few years ago seems resonable. Blink

 

Someone else brought them up as a comparison. I just outlined the typical shipping capability of an actual manufacturer that's done this before.

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soggy 10/5/2023 1:57pm
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HonDawg17 wrote:

Someone else brought them up as a comparison. I just outlined the typical shipping capability of an actual manufacturer that's done this before.

You didn’t outline anything. You just took a wild guess. 

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HonDawg17 10/5/2023 2:19pm
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HonDawg17 wrote:

Someone else brought them up as a comparison. I just outlined the typical shipping capability of an actual manufacturer that's done this before.

soggy wrote:

You didn’t outline anything. You just took a wild guess. 

Yamaha sold 4.8 Million motorcycle in 2022. I have no clue how much of that is dirt bikes. But from 2020 numbers of 6170. I'm guessing they easily sold 10K off-road bikes. So there's a little insight into capabilities of a large manufacturer.

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soggy 10/5/2023 2:35pm
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HonDawg17 wrote:
Yamaha sold 4.8 Million motorcycle in 2022. I have no clue how much of that is dirt bikes. But from 2020 numbers of 6170. I'm guessing...

Yamaha sold 4.8 Million motorcycle in 2022. I have no clue how much of that is dirt bikes. But from 2020 numbers of 6170. I'm guessing they easily sold 10K off-road bikes. So there's a little insight into capabilities of a large manufacturer.

The demand is not there for triumph to produce anywhere near 6000 250f’s.  Maybe 2000. And I think that’s even a stretch. 

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LewDizzle wrote:

What comes first?....The Triumph or The Stark?

aeffertz wrote:

I mean, customers already have their hands on and are riding Starks. Different sales tactics, though. Plus it was never a race.

"already".

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Shred 10/5/2023 2:57pm
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LewDizzle wrote:

What comes first?....The Triumph or The Stark?

aeffertz wrote:

I mean, customers already have their hands on and are riding Starks. Different sales tactics, though. Plus it was never a race.

yota wrote:

"already".

lol…but wait…I’ve seen both of them on Youtube….

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captmoto 10/5/2023 9:36pm
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crusher773 wrote:

Dealer we have in Tulsa is a long time Honda, KTM dealer they just lost KTM bringing in Triumph, Husky and Gas Gas.

How do they lose KTM but get Husky and Gas Gas? Some goofy rules KTM has with dealers? Seems like if they lost KTM they wou;d lose the whole franchise? Where is this Honda dealership? I've been to the one 21st and Yale. 

backinthesaddleagain 10/6/2023 1:09am
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I remember local HD dealer added triumph.  That was a fail that lasted a couple years.  Hopefully triumph dealers have interest in mx.  Maybe some will due to the tiger adv bikes. 

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crusher773 10/6/2023 9:08pm
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crusher773 wrote:

Dealer we have in Tulsa is a long time Honda, KTM dealer they just lost KTM bringing in Triumph, Husky and Gas Gas.

yak651 wrote:
Surprised if they “lost” KTM they would pick up Husky and gas gas. Smaller KTM and another Husky dealer dropped them due to them requiring they...

Surprised if they “lost” KTM they would pick up Husky and gas gas. Smaller KTM and another Husky dealer dropped them due to them requiring they buy a bunch of models they have a hard time sealing and requiring large parts inventories be purchased 

Dealership was being sold and there was some kind of sketchy stuff that went in with the previous owner right before he sold it.  They kinda got screwed over.  Not happy about it because we've done business there for more than 20 years.  Sounds like KTM kinda knew it and that's why Husky and GasGas coming in.

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crusher773 10/6/2023 9:12pm
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crusher773 wrote:

Dealer we have in Tulsa is a long time Honda, KTM dealer they just lost KTM bringing in Triumph, Husky and Gas Gas.

captmoto wrote:
How do they lose KTM but get Husky and Gas Gas? Some goofy rules KTM has with dealers? Seems like if they lost KTM they wou;d...

How do they lose KTM but get Husky and Gas Gas? Some goofy rules KTM has with dealers? Seems like if they lost KTM they wou;d lose the whole franchise? Where is this Honda dealership? I've been to the one 21st and Yale. 

KTM got moved to 5th gear in BA.  They didn't have Husky or GasGas before so it's a new dealer situation there.  It was a whole screwed up deal from the old owner is what I have got from someone there.  That's how KTM ended up somewhere else.  

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crusher773 10/6/2023 9:14pm
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crusher773 wrote:

Dealer we have in Tulsa is a long time Honda, KTM dealer they just lost KTM bringing in Triumph, Husky and Gas Gas.

captmoto wrote:
How do they lose KTM but get Husky and Gas Gas? Some goofy rules KTM has with dealers? Seems like if they lost KTM they wou;d...

How do they lose KTM but get Husky and Gas Gas? Some goofy rules KTM has with dealers? Seems like if they lost KTM they wou;d lose the whole franchise? Where is this Honda dealership? I've been to the one 21st and Yale. 

xmlativ69 wrote:
Thats it! Place was a KTM dealer forever , back to the penton days! Long story short is a new owner came in (Car Dealership DOUCHE)...

Thats it! Place was a KTM dealer forever , back to the penton days! Long story short is a new owner came in (Car Dealership DOUCHE) and did some slim ball stuff and sold KTM franchise to dealer across town and then sold Honda franchise. But the new owners of Tulsa Powersports (old Honda of Tulsa) are great people.

I should have just said yeah what he said.Tongue

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