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I love AJ and his motocross training, and I respect the hustle he has, but it’s important not to think that, just because you excel in one thing, you will excel in another. Everything takes expertise and years to get the hang of. If he was scraping together funding, let his partner put up money, and did the announcement, that’s just not smart. I’m not telling people I bought a home until the mortgage and offer is at least approved, maybe even finalized. 

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I love AJ and his motocross training, and I respect the hustle he has, but it’s important not to think that, just because you excel in...

I love AJ and his motocross training, and I respect the hustle he has, but it’s important not to think that, just because you excel in one thing, you will excel in another. Everything takes expertise and years to get the hang of. If he was scraping together funding, let his partner put up money, and did the announcement, that’s just not smart. I’m not telling people I bought a home until the mortgage and offer is at least approved, maybe even finalized. 

Not sure what you think based on your post, but AJ seems to think that the premature announcement was his screwup. 

A business-first person (scrupulous or not) would realize that fucking over their partner was the real screwup. Lost relationships, burned bridges, and bad PR are expensive currency. Then you have the nerve to blow it off and throw shade at the people that stood behind their commitments? 

Make no mistake, the premature announcement was a bad decision, but just to the extent that it made all this public, which in the end may cost AJ much more than the amount of his share of the purchase of GPF. Karma is a bitch I guess.

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Any updates?

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yak651 wrote:

So do they get to keep the down payment? 

JazzyJJ wrote:

Depends. They likely will get to keep some amount of money, but no way to tell how much without seeing the contract. 

Wouldn't the buyer get his money back minus fees (lawyers, appraisals, surveying fees, lost revenue etc)?  Only a crazy person would sign a contract that wouldn't give him a majority of his money back.  And only a real A hole would have the gall to keep it all without great cause.

This is my first time posting on vital.  This thread brought he here.  I've read the whole thread and can't figure out how or why the buyer wouldn't get most of his money back unless his lawyer was completely reckless.  I can understand GPF keeping a deposit, but to keep the whole thing seems insane.

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With MTF next door, that's a non issue, that fight has already been put to rest.... 1st part of a 3 part youtube video here from...

With MTF next door, that's a non issue, that fight has already been put to rest....

1st part of a 3 part youtube video here from Racer X films will show some of the previous history.  About 30 minutes total but a good watch.

https://youtu.be/OGLThxTDQ3k

I also believe the guy who commented he is the partner and got screwed is truthful.  If you put up money on a land contract with a partner, and the partner (whoever that may be) fails to come up with their end, you are out of what you invested, unless you have a specific clause in the contract protecting your investment.  Any good lawyer for the seller, would never allow that verbage to exist.  It would get redlined all day, unless the seller was OK with it.

My guess, is there will be some future legal action vs whoever walked (which we know was not GPF), it will all be spelled out in public court documents, if it hasn't already been done.

Hopefully all parties get made whole in the end, with as little headache as possible, and the moto community keeps trucking forward....

DonM wrote:
Are you sure it was a land contract and not an asset purchase agreement? With an asset purchase contract there would be what is called a...

Are you sure it was a land contract and not an asset purchase agreement? With an asset purchase contract there would be what is called a good faith deposit that would be held in escrow, the contract would stipulate the contingencies, financing is typically a contingency. If it were a cash deal where the partners would have a separate agreement on how it was going to be funded and that fell apart outside of the purchase agreement and they couldn't fulfill the purchase agreement as a result then that would be a breach of the purchase agreement. The seller would be able to have a claim to the good faith deposit and my assumption is that the closing day came due and the buyers didn't have the money to settle the transaction and the seller chose not to move forward. 

BBusa576 wrote:
Was not a land contract. Was a purchase with owner financing. I paid up my half in February when we signed contracts. Other party was suppose...

Was not a land contract. Was a purchase with owner financing. I paid up my half in February when we signed contracts. Other party was suppose to have his for closing and he did not. Leaving me and my family out allot of money.

I can understand GPF keeping some money to cover their lawyer fees, surveyors, appraisals, banker fees and other expenses related to the sale.  But to keep any money beyond that would be in poor taste.  Even if it is spelled out in the contract that they can keep the whole thing, doesn't mean that they should.  I hope you get some back.  Sorry brother.

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DonM wrote:
Are you sure it was a land contract and not an asset purchase agreement? With an asset purchase contract there would be what is called a...

Are you sure it was a land contract and not an asset purchase agreement? With an asset purchase contract there would be what is called a good faith deposit that would be held in escrow, the contract would stipulate the contingencies, financing is typically a contingency. If it were a cash deal where the partners would have a separate agreement on how it was going to be funded and that fell apart outside of the purchase agreement and they couldn't fulfill the purchase agreement as a result then that would be a breach of the purchase agreement. The seller would be able to have a claim to the good faith deposit and my assumption is that the closing day came due and the buyers didn't have the money to settle the transaction and the seller chose not to move forward. 

BBusa576 wrote:
Was not a land contract. Was a purchase with owner financing. I paid up my half in February when we signed contracts. Other party was suppose...

Was not a land contract. Was a purchase with owner financing. I paid up my half in February when we signed contracts. Other party was suppose to have his for closing and he did not. Leaving me and my family out allot of money.

jstevie wrote:
I can understand GPF keeping some money to cover their lawyer fees, surveyors, appraisals, banker fees and other expenses related to the sale.  But to keep...

I can understand GPF keeping some money to cover their lawyer fees, surveyors, appraisals, banker fees and other expenses related to the sale.  But to keep any money beyond that would be in poor taste.  Even if it is spelled out in the contract that they can keep the whole thing, doesn't mean that they should.  I hope you get some back.  Sorry brother.

From what I know , the potential buyers went and did several thousand dollars in what could be considered damage by gutting the rec room and maybe a few other areas before actually closing .

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9/26/2023 10:08am Edited Date/Time 9/26/2023 10:10am
BBusa576 wrote:
Was not a land contract. Was a purchase with owner financing. I paid up my half in February when we signed contracts. Other party was suppose...

Was not a land contract. Was a purchase with owner financing. I paid up my half in February when we signed contracts. Other party was suppose to have his for closing and he did not. Leaving me and my family out allot of money.

jstevie wrote:
I can understand GPF keeping some money to cover their lawyer fees, surveyors, appraisals, banker fees and other expenses related to the sale.  But to keep...

I can understand GPF keeping some money to cover their lawyer fees, surveyors, appraisals, banker fees and other expenses related to the sale.  But to keep any money beyond that would be in poor taste.  Even if it is spelled out in the contract that they can keep the whole thing, doesn't mean that they should.  I hope you get some back.  Sorry brother.

From what I know , the potential buyers went and did several thousand dollars in what could be considered damage by gutting the rec room and...

From what I know , the potential buyers went and did several thousand dollars in what could be considered damage by gutting the rec room and maybe a few other areas before actually closing .

So premature announcement and video as well as premature deconstruction and redecorating? Smart 🤦

Doesn't sound like it was the guy who lost his money who would have done that stuff.

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alphado wrote:

Any updates?

AJ discussed it on his latest podcast (with his wife). He claimed no one lost money and no one was hurt in the process. 

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jstevie wrote:
I can understand GPF keeping some money to cover their lawyer fees, surveyors, appraisals, banker fees and other expenses related to the sale.  But to keep...

I can understand GPF keeping some money to cover their lawyer fees, surveyors, appraisals, banker fees and other expenses related to the sale.  But to keep any money beyond that would be in poor taste.  Even if it is spelled out in the contract that they can keep the whole thing, doesn't mean that they should.  I hope you get some back.  Sorry brother.

From what I know , the potential buyers went and did several thousand dollars in what could be considered damage by gutting the rec room and...

From what I know , the potential buyers went and did several thousand dollars in what could be considered damage by gutting the rec room and maybe a few other areas before actually closing .

Richy wrote:
So premature announcement and video as well as premature deconstruction and redecorating? Smart 🤦 Doesn't sound like it was the guy who lost his money who...

So premature announcement and video as well as premature deconstruction and redecorating? Smart 🤦

Doesn't sound like it was the guy who lost his money who would have done that stuff.

My understanding when we were there (last of july, which was the last week before lorettas. The sale would take place August 1st) was that the other half was still living in one of the cabins there. So why destroy it if you still live/train there and are going to own it. I was told the building (gym) would be torn down? It was a nice building so that was puzzling to me but hey, its not my money.

This is what other people that had been living there for a few months told me. Its gossip so take it for what its worth.  Gym did no look destroyed to me, maybe sparse? But, it was our first time ever at a train facility so maybe i dont know what a high level gym looks like

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9/26/2023 10:36am Edited Date/Time 9/26/2023 10:39am
alphado wrote:

Any updates?

AJ discussed it on his latest podcast (with his wife). He claimed no one lost money and no one was hurt in the process. 

And we all know how a narcissist works....

Par for the course.

My son made a comment he didn't like AJ a year or so ago, and wouldn't train with him if it was free.  About 10 minutes into the video he made at GPF (that has been removed), I understood why.....But hey, we all are entitled to our own opinions.  

GPF track looks sweet after I took a peek at it last week.  May send the boy over there Saturday and let him ride it...

 

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From what I know , the potential buyers went and did several thousand dollars in what could be considered damage by gutting the rec room and...

From what I know , the potential buyers went and did several thousand dollars in what could be considered damage by gutting the rec room and maybe a few other areas before actually closing .

Richy wrote:
So premature announcement and video as well as premature deconstruction and redecorating? Smart 🤦 Doesn't sound like it was the guy who lost his money who...

So premature announcement and video as well as premature deconstruction and redecorating? Smart 🤦

Doesn't sound like it was the guy who lost his money who would have done that stuff.

gharmon wrote:
My understanding when we were there (last of july, which was the last week before lorettas. The sale would take place August 1st) was that the...

My understanding when we were there (last of july, which was the last week before lorettas. The sale would take place August 1st) was that the other half was still living in one of the cabins there. So why destroy it if you still live/train there and are going to own it. I was told the building (gym) would be torn down? It was a nice building so that was puzzling to me but hey, its not my money.

This is what other people that had been living there for a few months told me. Its gossip so take it for what its worth.  Gym did no look destroyed to me, maybe sparse? But, it was our first time ever at a train facility so maybe i dont know what a high level gym looks like

Gym wasn't being torn down. I was about to add a lean too off of it for more space and get all new equipment. Rec room was being changed to a 2 bedroom house. 

Whatever Aj is saying on podcast he's lying. My bank account is still shy the money.  Aj has also lost a trainer, cameraman cam, Jetts endorsement and Lucas  Myrtle dropped him. He's a liar. He bullshit me for 10 months acting like he had all the money to buy the property on his own if he wanted but couldn't even come up with his portion of a deposit. 

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9/26/2023 11:22am Edited Date/Time 9/26/2023 11:42am
alphado wrote:

Any updates?

No updates I can speak about yet. I will post it all when the time is right along as my attorney says I'm OK to. It will blow your mind.

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The instagram updates of the track are looking pretty damn good lately. 

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Richy wrote:
So premature announcement and video as well as premature deconstruction and redecorating? Smart 🤦 Doesn't sound like it was the guy who lost his money who...

So premature announcement and video as well as premature deconstruction and redecorating? Smart 🤦

Doesn't sound like it was the guy who lost his money who would have done that stuff.

gharmon wrote:
My understanding when we were there (last of july, which was the last week before lorettas. The sale would take place August 1st) was that the...

My understanding when we were there (last of july, which was the last week before lorettas. The sale would take place August 1st) was that the other half was still living in one of the cabins there. So why destroy it if you still live/train there and are going to own it. I was told the building (gym) would be torn down? It was a nice building so that was puzzling to me but hey, its not my money.

This is what other people that had been living there for a few months told me. Its gossip so take it for what its worth.  Gym did no look destroyed to me, maybe sparse? But, it was our first time ever at a train facility so maybe i dont know what a high level gym looks like

BBusa576 wrote:
Gym wasn't being torn down. I was about to add a lean too off of it for more space and get all new equipment. Rec room...

Gym wasn't being torn down. I was about to add a lean too off of it for more space and get all new equipment. Rec room was being changed to a 2 bedroom house. 

Whatever Aj is saying on podcast he's lying. My bank account is still shy the money.  Aj has also lost a trainer, cameraman cam, Jetts endorsement and Lucas  Myrtle dropped him. He's a liar. He bullshit me for 10 months acting like he had all the money to buy the property on his own if he wanted but couldn't even come up with his portion of a deposit. 

Thats why i said it was gossip. I know how stories grow as they go from one person to the next.  Sorry,i kept the story growing. 

Also sorry that you lost the money. We enjoyed our week down there!! 

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Richy wrote:
So premature announcement and video as well as premature deconstruction and redecorating? Smart 🤦 Doesn't sound like it was the guy who lost his money who...

So premature announcement and video as well as premature deconstruction and redecorating? Smart 🤦

Doesn't sound like it was the guy who lost his money who would have done that stuff.

gharmon wrote:
My understanding when we were there (last of july, which was the last week before lorettas. The sale would take place August 1st) was that the...

My understanding when we were there (last of july, which was the last week before lorettas. The sale would take place August 1st) was that the other half was still living in one of the cabins there. So why destroy it if you still live/train there and are going to own it. I was told the building (gym) would be torn down? It was a nice building so that was puzzling to me but hey, its not my money.

This is what other people that had been living there for a few months told me. Its gossip so take it for what its worth.  Gym did no look destroyed to me, maybe sparse? But, it was our first time ever at a train facility so maybe i dont know what a high level gym looks like

BBusa576 wrote:
Gym wasn't being torn down. I was about to add a lean too off of it for more space and get all new equipment. Rec room...

Gym wasn't being torn down. I was about to add a lean too off of it for more space and get all new equipment. Rec room was being changed to a 2 bedroom house. 

Whatever Aj is saying on podcast he's lying. My bank account is still shy the money.  Aj has also lost a trainer, cameraman cam, Jetts endorsement and Lucas  Myrtle dropped him. He's a liar. He bullshit me for 10 months acting like he had all the money to buy the property on his own if he wanted but couldn't even come up with his portion of a deposit. 

Even Cameraman Cam left? That is saying a lot!

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KHNC wrote:

The instagram updates of the track are looking pretty damn good lately. 

Isnt there a big race there in oct or November? Hopefully the track updates are completed by then. 

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DonM wrote:
Are you sure it was a land contract and not an asset purchase agreement? With an asset purchase contract there would be what is called a...

Are you sure it was a land contract and not an asset purchase agreement? With an asset purchase contract there would be what is called a good faith deposit that would be held in escrow, the contract would stipulate the contingencies, financing is typically a contingency. If it were a cash deal where the partners would have a separate agreement on how it was going to be funded and that fell apart outside of the purchase agreement and they couldn't fulfill the purchase agreement as a result then that would be a breach of the purchase agreement. The seller would be able to have a claim to the good faith deposit and my assumption is that the closing day came due and the buyers didn't have the money to settle the transaction and the seller chose not to move forward. 

BBusa576 wrote:
Was not a land contract. Was a purchase with owner financing. I paid up my half in February when we signed contracts. Other party was suppose...

Was not a land contract. Was a purchase with owner financing. I paid up my half in February when we signed contracts. Other party was suppose to have his for closing and he did not. Leaving me and my family out allot of money.

jstevie wrote:
I can understand GPF keeping some money to cover their lawyer fees, surveyors, appraisals, banker fees and other expenses related to the sale.  But to keep...

I can understand GPF keeping some money to cover their lawyer fees, surveyors, appraisals, banker fees and other expenses related to the sale.  But to keep any money beyond that would be in poor taste.  Even if it is spelled out in the contract that they can keep the whole thing, doesn't mean that they should.  I hope you get some back.  Sorry brother.

GPF the ones in poor taste? Lol

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BBusa576 wrote:
Was not a land contract. Was a purchase with owner financing. I paid up my half in February when we signed contracts. Other party was suppose...

Was not a land contract. Was a purchase with owner financing. I paid up my half in February when we signed contracts. Other party was suppose to have his for closing and he did not. Leaving me and my family out allot of money.

jstevie wrote:
I can understand GPF keeping some money to cover their lawyer fees, surveyors, appraisals, banker fees and other expenses related to the sale.  But to keep...

I can understand GPF keeping some money to cover their lawyer fees, surveyors, appraisals, banker fees and other expenses related to the sale.  But to keep any money beyond that would be in poor taste.  Even if it is spelled out in the contract that they can keep the whole thing, doesn't mean that they should.  I hope you get some back.  Sorry brother.

yak651 wrote:

GPF the ones in poor taste? Lol

It's a shitshow all around. But if they don't give him his money back minus an itemized list of the fuckery, then yeah, It's on them too.

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gharmon wrote:
My understanding when we were there (last of july, which was the last week before lorettas. The sale would take place August 1st) was that the...

My understanding when we were there (last of july, which was the last week before lorettas. The sale would take place August 1st) was that the other half was still living in one of the cabins there. So why destroy it if you still live/train there and are going to own it. I was told the building (gym) would be torn down? It was a nice building so that was puzzling to me but hey, its not my money.

This is what other people that had been living there for a few months told me. Its gossip so take it for what its worth.  Gym did no look destroyed to me, maybe sparse? But, it was our first time ever at a train facility so maybe i dont know what a high level gym looks like

BBusa576 wrote:
Gym wasn't being torn down. I was about to add a lean too off of it for more space and get all new equipment. Rec room...

Gym wasn't being torn down. I was about to add a lean too off of it for more space and get all new equipment. Rec room was being changed to a 2 bedroom house. 

Whatever Aj is saying on podcast he's lying. My bank account is still shy the money.  Aj has also lost a trainer, cameraman cam, Jetts endorsement and Lucas  Myrtle dropped him. He's a liar. He bullshit me for 10 months acting like he had all the money to buy the property on his own if he wanted but couldn't even come up with his portion of a deposit. 

Even Cameraman Cam left? That is saying a lot!

Looks like Moto Academy’s socials are still posting the same quality of videos. Not sure if Cam leaving is recent. Doesn’t seem they’ve made any official announcement which is weird as he seems like an important part/face of their online presence. 
 

The thot pickens. 

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BBusa576 wrote:
Gym wasn't being torn down. I was about to add a lean too off of it for more space and get all new equipment. Rec room...

Gym wasn't being torn down. I was about to add a lean too off of it for more space and get all new equipment. Rec room was being changed to a 2 bedroom house. 

Whatever Aj is saying on podcast he's lying. My bank account is still shy the money.  Aj has also lost a trainer, cameraman cam, Jetts endorsement and Lucas  Myrtle dropped him. He's a liar. He bullshit me for 10 months acting like he had all the money to buy the property on his own if he wanted but couldn't even come up with his portion of a deposit. 

Even Cameraman Cam left? That is saying a lot!

Looks like Moto Academy’s socials are still posting the same quality of videos. Not sure if Cam leaving is recent. Doesn’t seem they’ve made any official...

Looks like Moto Academy’s socials are still posting the same quality of videos. Not sure if Cam leaving is recent. Doesn’t seem they’ve made any official announcement which is weird as he seems like an important part/face of their online presence. 
 

The thot pickens. 

He was still making podcasts with AJ a week ago. 

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BBusa576 wrote:
Gym wasn't being torn down. I was about to add a lean too off of it for more space and get all new equipment. Rec room...

Gym wasn't being torn down. I was about to add a lean too off of it for more space and get all new equipment. Rec room was being changed to a 2 bedroom house. 

Whatever Aj is saying on podcast he's lying. My bank account is still shy the money.  Aj has also lost a trainer, cameraman cam, Jetts endorsement and Lucas  Myrtle dropped him. He's a liar. He bullshit me for 10 months acting like he had all the money to buy the property on his own if he wanted but couldn't even come up with his portion of a deposit. 

Even Cameraman Cam left? That is saying a lot!

Looks like Moto Academy’s socials are still posting the same quality of videos. Not sure if Cam leaving is recent. Doesn’t seem they’ve made any official...

Looks like Moto Academy’s socials are still posting the same quality of videos. Not sure if Cam leaving is recent. Doesn’t seem they’ve made any official announcement which is weird as he seems like an important part/face of their online presence. 
 

The thot pickens. 

He gave 4 weeks notice. Probably down to 1 or 2 weeks by now.

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alphado wrote:

Any updates?

BBusa576 wrote:
No updates I can speak about yet. I will post it all when the time is right along as my attorney says I'm OK to. It...

No updates I can speak about yet. I will post it all when the time is right along as my attorney says I'm OK to. It will blow your mind.

Man I sure hope for you and your family when you’re able to tell your story , that it ends with you getting back what’s fair. I learned a long time ago you can know someone for years as a stand up person but when shit hits the fan their true colors show.  A long time ago I took a chance and moved my family for a career opportunity with a company run by someone considered the best in the biz. I year after I was there the guy had a bonafide midlife crisis. Left his wife became a drug addict and destroyed the company . I took a pretty bad hit and was left in pretty scary spot, was screwed out of several months salary and had just spent everything I had saved  on the down payment of my first home . I suffered for a bit and had to just cut my losses. Fortunately in short time things turned for me and  I was able to move on . All I got from the ordeal were the vital lessons learned from the experience.

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As of recently, he's used some of our content (race footage and practice footage from SMX my staff shot) on his social media. Using it to break down techniques, promote himself, etc.

Hit him up about it asking where to send invoices if he's going to keep using our content...he refuses to take it down and is still running with it.

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ML512 wrote:
As of recently, he's used some of our content (race footage and practice footage from SMX my staff shot) on his social media. Using it to...

As of recently, he's used some of our content (race footage and practice footage from SMX my staff shot) on his social media. Using it to break down techniques, promote himself, etc.

Hit him up about it asking where to send invoices if he's going to keep using our content...he refuses to take it down and is still running with it.

That’s pretty unchill of AJ. I get he thinks he’s adding value and just sharing that value, but it’s not easy or free to get good shots showing the riders’ technique. You have to travel to the race, sweat it out in the sun all day, plan everything out, shot it properly, edit the video. And AJ knows this. I’m sure ML or other creators wouldn't charge him a ton to use it. It’s the thought and curtesy that matters. 

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ML512 wrote:
As of recently, he's used some of our content (race footage and practice footage from SMX my staff shot) on his social media. Using it to...

As of recently, he's used some of our content (race footage and practice footage from SMX my staff shot) on his social media. Using it to break down techniques, promote himself, etc.

Hit him up about it asking where to send invoices if he's going to keep using our content...he refuses to take it down and is still running with it.

That’s pretty unchill of AJ. I get he thinks he’s adding value and just sharing that value, but it’s not easy or free to get good...

That’s pretty unchill of AJ. I get he thinks he’s adding value and just sharing that value, but it’s not easy or free to get good shots showing the riders’ technique. You have to travel to the race, sweat it out in the sun all day, plan everything out, shot it properly, edit the video. And AJ knows this. I’m sure ML or other creators wouldn't charge him a ton to use it. It’s the thought and curtesy that matters. 

The lack of asking or crediting us is what pissed me off. So I commented and he responded with a smartass remark, then deleted it and responded with a “contact my team” comment.

As mentioned in prior posts, Mirtl, Lawrences, and Wasserman have ceased working with AJ.

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9/27/2023 6:02am
ML512 wrote:
As of recently, he's used some of our content (race footage and practice footage from SMX my staff shot) on his social media. Using it to...

As of recently, he's used some of our content (race footage and practice footage from SMX my staff shot) on his social media. Using it to break down techniques, promote himself, etc.

Hit him up about it asking where to send invoices if he's going to keep using our content...he refuses to take it down and is still running with it.

That’s pretty unchill of AJ. I get he thinks he’s adding value and just sharing that value, but it’s not easy or free to get good...

That’s pretty unchill of AJ. I get he thinks he’s adding value and just sharing that value, but it’s not easy or free to get good shots showing the riders’ technique. You have to travel to the race, sweat it out in the sun all day, plan everything out, shot it properly, edit the video. And AJ knows this. I’m sure ML or other creators wouldn't charge him a ton to use it. It’s the thought and curtesy that matters. 

ML512 wrote:
The lack of asking or crediting us is what pissed me off. So I commented and he responded with a smartass remark, then deleted it and...

The lack of asking or crediting us is what pissed me off. So I commented and he responded with a smartass remark, then deleted it and responded with a “contact my team” comment.

As mentioned in prior posts, Mirtl, Lawrences, and Wasserman have ceased working with AJ.

Fucking hell that's disappointing. I was ridding at the same track as him a month ago. I'm glad I didn't go shake his hamd

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9/27/2023 6:04am

I was very early in the moto academy program and the teaching videos and feed back are great but this is disappointing. 

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9/27/2023 6:34am
ML512 wrote:
As of recently, he's used some of our content (race footage and practice footage from SMX my staff shot) on his social media. Using it to...

As of recently, he's used some of our content (race footage and practice footage from SMX my staff shot) on his social media. Using it to break down techniques, promote himself, etc.

Hit him up about it asking where to send invoices if he's going to keep using our content...he refuses to take it down and is still running with it.

That’s pretty unchill of AJ. I get he thinks he’s adding value and just sharing that value, but it’s not easy or free to get good...

That’s pretty unchill of AJ. I get he thinks he’s adding value and just sharing that value, but it’s not easy or free to get good shots showing the riders’ technique. You have to travel to the race, sweat it out in the sun all day, plan everything out, shot it properly, edit the video. And AJ knows this. I’m sure ML or other creators wouldn't charge him a ton to use it. It’s the thought and curtesy that matters. 

ML512 wrote:
The lack of asking or crediting us is what pissed me off. So I commented and he responded with a smartass remark, then deleted it and...

The lack of asking or crediting us is what pissed me off. So I commented and he responded with a smartass remark, then deleted it and responded with a “contact my team” comment.

As mentioned in prior posts, Mirtl, Lawrences, and Wasserman have ceased working with AJ.

I always want to give someone the benefit of the doubt - especially when I am relying entirely on secondhand or anecdotal information.  Still....seems like the negative data points are adding up.  Definitely seems like AJ is falling on his sword so to speak...

9/27/2023 6:57am

Yep, I’ve heard enough on this thread alone that I won’t be clicking on his YouTube vids anymore. Don’t want him getting even that 1 extra view. 

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