2024.5 rmz 450

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seth505 9/20/2023 7:35am
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RoostBuckets wrote:
BRO if you think Roczens pudding is a bone stock 2008-2023 RMZ-450 then you are delusional. That bike is far far from the outdated dinosaur you...

BRO if you think Roczens pudding is a bone stock 2008-2023 RMZ-450 then you are delusional. That bike is far far from the outdated dinosaur you see on a show room floor.

ALSO 95% of vitards cant ride an RMZ to its fullest potential.

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seth505 wrote:

It's an RMZ with motor work and custom suspension.  

RoostBuckets wrote:
Damn Seth, I didnt realize every component of his bike was stock. Wheels, brakes, controls, exhaust, the whole nine yards. I'm going to stop by my...

Damn Seth, I didnt realize every component of his bike was stock. Wheels, brakes, controls, exhaust, the whole nine yards.

I'm going to stop by my local mechanic shop today and tell him I want some motor work and custom suspension, then I can race ken roczen.

So putting different rims, brake pads, controls and PC exhaust is a drastically different bike now? Have fun at your local mechanic shop, I'm sure they'll be super stoked to speak with you.

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lukerichards 9/20/2023 8:43am
9/20/2023 8:43am

All the haters keep doing is moving the goal post as it suits them, it’s crazy to see what people were saying 1 year ago, now it’s only roost buckets lolllllll

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TeamGreen 9/20/2023 9:09am
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lukerichards wrote:
All the haters keep doing is moving the goal post as it suits them, it’s crazy to see what people were saying 1 year ago, now...

All the haters keep doing is moving the goal post as it suits them, it’s crazy to see what people were saying 1 year ago, now it’s only roost buckets lolllllll

Let’s see, “same bike as 2008”…

”Dinosaur”…

What does that say about the overpriced, super-duper latest and greatest bikes that everyone-else is riding…as we watch a dinosaur from 2008 win races…with a kick-starter…? 

Asking as I’m laughing.

Signed,

A guy that raced the RM-Z in 2018 & 2019 and a won bears at Mammoth and an Over All at Day in the Dirt. 

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I believe suzuki even told dealers that 24's would have e-start and then dealers were surprised when it was announced and they were still just the...

I believe suzuki even told dealers that 24's would have e-start and then dealers were surprised when it was announced and they were still just the same. Maybe there was a production delay or something?

They never told us anything. But then again I'm pretty new to Suzuki so maybe they forgot to tell me. 

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RoostBuckets 9/20/2023 9:22am
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lukerichards wrote:
All the haters keep doing is moving the goal post as it suits them, it’s crazy to see what people were saying 1 year ago, now...

All the haters keep doing is moving the goal post as it suits them, it’s crazy to see what people were saying 1 year ago, now it’s only roost buckets lolllllll

TeamGreen wrote:
Let’s see, “same bike as 2008”… ”Dinosaur”… What does that say about the overpriced, super-duper latest and greatest bikes that everyone-else is riding…as we watch a...

Let’s see, “same bike as 2008”…

”Dinosaur”…

What does that say about the overpriced, super-duper latest and greatest bikes that everyone-else is riding…as we watch a dinosaur from 2008 win races…with a kick-starter…? 

Asking as I’m laughing.

Signed,

A guy that raced the RM-Z in 2018 & 2019 and a won bears at Mammoth and an Over All at Day in the Dirt. 

Did he win, or was he given the win? did he win the race? or a moto? asking for a friend...

Also congrats on your victories in 19 & 19. What an incredible accomplishment. Imagine if you stuck with it! we would be saying all hail "Kickstart TeamGreen" instead of "Kickstart Kenny"

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OleTex 9/20/2023 9:56am
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They are the best looking bikes though. 

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ga_pike 9/20/2023 10:15am
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burn1986 wrote:

They had e-start on their DRZ 400, I’m sure it wouldn’t be anything to put it on.

AMetts wrote:
DRZ engine a whole other animal huge and heavy totally different in every way.  They had the RMX 450, their offroad bike with estart with very...

DRZ engine a whole other animal huge and heavy totally different in every way. 

They had the RMX 450, their offroad bike with estart with very similar engine to the RMZ but it had the cam chain tensioner in the head so they had room for the starter on top of the cases. The RMZ has the tensioner in the cylinder jug which would be in the way of the starter on cases used for RMX. 

Ive been told that the way the layout of the RMX head is it limits power/flow quite a bit so its not worth adding for the electric start. 

So, forgive me but, if the team wanted to figure out how to make the RMX cases work with the newer cylinder head, would that be legal?  There is quite a bit you can do with machining and such.  Not even accounting that it might not be possible, would it be legal to utilize different cases to provide for e-start on a bike that doesn't offer it as a factory option?  

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AMetts 9/20/2023 10:23am
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burn1986 wrote:

They had e-start on their DRZ 400, I’m sure it wouldn’t be anything to put it on.

AMetts wrote:
DRZ engine a whole other animal huge and heavy totally different in every way.  They had the RMX 450, their offroad bike with estart with very...

DRZ engine a whole other animal huge and heavy totally different in every way. 

They had the RMX 450, their offroad bike with estart with very similar engine to the RMZ but it had the cam chain tensioner in the head so they had room for the starter on top of the cases. The RMZ has the tensioner in the cylinder jug which would be in the way of the starter on cases used for RMX. 

Ive been told that the way the layout of the RMX head is it limits power/flow quite a bit so its not worth adding for the electric start. 

ga_pike wrote:
So, forgive me but, if the team wanted to figure out how to make the RMX cases work with the newer cylinder head, would that be...

So, forgive me but, if the team wanted to figure out how to make the RMX cases work with the newer cylinder head, would that be legal?  There is quite a bit you can do with machining and such.  Not even accounting that it might not be possible, would it be legal to utilize different cases to provide for e-start on a bike that doesn't offer it as a factory option?  

Im pretty sure they have to run production cases. 

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mxb2 9/20/2023 10:39am
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AMetts wrote:
DRZ engine a whole other animal huge and heavy totally different in every way.  They had the RMX 450, their offroad bike with estart with very...

DRZ engine a whole other animal huge and heavy totally different in every way. 

They had the RMX 450, their offroad bike with estart with very similar engine to the RMZ but it had the cam chain tensioner in the head so they had room for the starter on top of the cases. The RMZ has the tensioner in the cylinder jug which would be in the way of the starter on cases used for RMX. 

Ive been told that the way the layout of the RMX head is it limits power/flow quite a bit so its not worth adding for the electric start. 

ga_pike wrote:
So, forgive me but, if the team wanted to figure out how to make the RMX cases work with the newer cylinder head, would that be...

So, forgive me but, if the team wanted to figure out how to make the RMX cases work with the newer cylinder head, would that be legal?  There is quite a bit you can do with machining and such.  Not even accounting that it might not be possible, would it be legal to utilize different cases to provide for e-start on a bike that doesn't offer it as a factory option?  

AMetts wrote:

Im pretty sure they have to run production cases. 

Correct

lukerichards 9/20/2023 10:41am
9/20/2023 10:41am Edited Date/Time 9/20/2023 10:42am
lukerichards wrote:
All the haters keep doing is moving the goal post as it suits them, it’s crazy to see what people were saying 1 year ago, now...

All the haters keep doing is moving the goal post as it suits them, it’s crazy to see what people were saying 1 year ago, now it’s only roost buckets lolllllll

TeamGreen wrote:
Let’s see, “same bike as 2008”… ”Dinosaur”… What does that say about the overpriced, super-duper latest and greatest bikes that everyone-else is riding…as we watch a...

Let’s see, “same bike as 2008”…

”Dinosaur”…

What does that say about the overpriced, super-duper latest and greatest bikes that everyone-else is riding…as we watch a dinosaur from 2008 win races…with a kick-starter…? 

Asking as I’m laughing.

Signed,

A guy that raced the RM-Z in 2018 & 2019 and a won bears at Mammoth and an Over All at Day in the Dirt. 

RoostBuckets wrote:
Did he win, or was he given the win? did he win the race? or a moto? asking for a friend... Also congrats on your victories...

Did he win, or was he given the win? did he win the race? or a moto? asking for a friend...

Also congrats on your victories in 19 & 19. What an incredible accomplishment. Imagine if you stuck with it! we would be saying all hail "Kickstart TeamGreen" instead of "Kickstart Kenny"

He won a race this year yes? What are you asking? Only other bike to get the Jett’s panties in a wad all year was yellow

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MikeID 9/20/2023 12:29pm
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I’m on the 2-stroke train but this bike rocks..

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Joshracing wrote:

Sorry guys, there's never been a .5 model of anything, why would Suzuki be the first to start that?

1978.5 RM’s

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Meister wrote:

Man im so damn tempted to do one up. Tell me im stupid. 

fourfourone wrote:

The bike can still win races.... As long as the leader lets you by... 

LEGIT LOL 

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I had a friend with a 1998 RM125 and a 2000 RM80, some of the best times ever.  

 

i wish the bikes were still two stroke!  I’m not a fan of KTM/ Husq/ GasGas/ etc 

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dcorbett62 9/21/2023 3:59am
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IMG 2507Suck it roostbucket. 

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RoostBuckets 9/21/2023 4:49am
9/21/2023 4:49am

You guys all mean to tell me you don't want ANY updates to the RMZ? You would be upset if they lightened up a little, made some improvements, added e start? Even if they did all that without altering the look!?!?! so you guys can still have the "nicest looking bikes out there"

And lets not go with the cost increasing. You can pick up left over 23 kawis for dirt cheap right now. Its one model year old, not 6 like the 18 rmz.

Also relax with the whole this bike can still win races stuff. It's pretty clear that skill determines race outcome. Jett could probably hope on any bike and win races/the championship next year.

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Meister wrote:

Man im so damn tempted to do one up. Tell me im stupid. 

fourfourone wrote:

The bike can still win races.... As long as the leader lets you by... 

seth505 wrote:

So a star yamaha cannot win by your logic, or a factory Kawi, right?

His posts have far more to do with ridicule than logic.

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fourfourone 9/21/2023 5:46am
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fourfourone wrote:

The bike can still win races.... As long as the leader lets you by... 

seth505 wrote:

So a star yamaha cannot win by your logic, or a factory Kawi, right?

MxAddic wrote:

His posts have far more to do with ridicule than logic.

Oh the irony of this post...

And don't delete it.

 

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MXer391 9/21/2023 7:23am
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RoostBuckets wrote:
You guys all mean to tell me you don't want ANY updates to the RMZ? You would be upset if they lightened up a little, made...

You guys all mean to tell me you don't want ANY updates to the RMZ? You would be upset if they lightened up a little, made some improvements, added e start? Even if they did all that without altering the look!?!?! so you guys can still have the "nicest looking bikes out there"

And lets not go with the cost increasing. You can pick up left over 23 kawis for dirt cheap right now. Its one model year old, not 6 like the 18 rmz.

Also relax with the whole this bike can still win races stuff. It's pretty clear that skill determines race outcome. Jett could probably hope on any bike and win races/the championship next year.

We get it dude. You don't like Suzuki's. We are aware they haven't updated the bike. We know Ken Roczen can go fast on any bike. Move along. Or better yet, go riding instead of annoying everyone who just wants Suzuki to update their bike and discuss it on a forum. 

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Dirty Points 9/21/2023 7:53am
9/21/2023 7:53am Edited Date/Time 9/21/2023 8:06am
RoostBuckets wrote:
You guys all mean to tell me you don't want ANY updates to the RMZ? You would be upset if they lightened up a little, made...

You guys all mean to tell me you don't want ANY updates to the RMZ? You would be upset if they lightened up a little, made some improvements, added e start? Even if they did all that without altering the look!?!?! so you guys can still have the "nicest looking bikes out there"

And lets not go with the cost increasing. You can pick up left over 23 kawis for dirt cheap right now. Its one model year old, not 6 like the 18 rmz.

Also relax with the whole this bike can still win races stuff. It's pretty clear that skill determines race outcome. Jett could probably hope on any bike and win races/the championship next year.

A '23 kx450 is 5 years old under the same logic that a '24 RMZ is 6 years old. The previous gen KX was released in '19, the current gen Zook '18.

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fourfourone 9/21/2023 8:19am
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RoostBuckets wrote:
You guys all mean to tell me you don't want ANY updates to the RMZ? You would be upset if they lightened up a little, made...

You guys all mean to tell me you don't want ANY updates to the RMZ? You would be upset if they lightened up a little, made some improvements, added e start? Even if they did all that without altering the look!?!?! so you guys can still have the "nicest looking bikes out there"

And lets not go with the cost increasing. You can pick up left over 23 kawis for dirt cheap right now. Its one model year old, not 6 like the 18 rmz.

Also relax with the whole this bike can still win races stuff. It's pretty clear that skill determines race outcome. Jett could probably hope on any bike and win races/the championship next year.

Dirty Points wrote:
A '23 kx450 is 5 years old under the same logic that a '24 RMZ is 6 years old. The previous gen KX was released in...

A '23 kx450 is 5 years old under the same logic that a '24 RMZ is 6 years old. The previous gen KX was released in '19, the current gen Zook '18.

But the 18 zook is almost identical to the 08 zook... 

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fourfourone 9/21/2023 8:37am
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dcorbett62 wrote:
Suck it roostbucket. 

IMG 2507Suck it roostbucket. 

Other than the world's biggest exhaust, that's a great looking bike. 

lukerichards 9/21/2023 8:51am
9/21/2023 8:51am
RoostBuckets wrote:
You guys all mean to tell me you don't want ANY updates to the RMZ? You would be upset if they lightened up a little, made...

You guys all mean to tell me you don't want ANY updates to the RMZ? You would be upset if they lightened up a little, made some improvements, added e start? Even if they did all that without altering the look!?!?! so you guys can still have the "nicest looking bikes out there"

And lets not go with the cost increasing. You can pick up left over 23 kawis for dirt cheap right now. Its one model year old, not 6 like the 18 rmz.

Also relax with the whole this bike can still win races stuff. It's pretty clear that skill determines race outcome. Jett could probably hope on any bike and win races/the championship next year.

1. Nobody’s said that

2. Kawis have some serious durability issues, dirt cheap for a reason, seen the price increase on the new ones?

3. You just contradicted your whole Schtick with your second sentence there 

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ga_pike 9/21/2023 9:25am
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ga_pike wrote:
So, forgive me but, if the team wanted to figure out how to make the RMX cases work with the newer cylinder head, would that be...

So, forgive me but, if the team wanted to figure out how to make the RMX cases work with the newer cylinder head, would that be legal?  There is quite a bit you can do with machining and such.  Not even accounting that it might not be possible, would it be legal to utilize different cases to provide for e-start on a bike that doesn't offer it as a factory option?  

AMetts wrote:

Im pretty sure they have to run production cases. 

mxb2 wrote:

Correct

I get the production cases thing...  but the RMX cases were production.  So in theory, could those be used (with modification) in the current RMZ frame with the RMZ jug?  

 

I guess another question would be could a team take someone else's production engine and put it into their frame?  So, could a GASGAS rider place a KTM motor into their frame?  Or could Suzuki put a Kawasaki motor into their frame?  

mattyhamz2 9/21/2023 9:27am
9/21/2023 9:27am
RoostBuckets wrote:
You guys all mean to tell me you don't want ANY updates to the RMZ? You would be upset if they lightened up a little, made...

You guys all mean to tell me you don't want ANY updates to the RMZ? You would be upset if they lightened up a little, made some improvements, added e start? Even if they did all that without altering the look!?!?! so you guys can still have the "nicest looking bikes out there"

And lets not go with the cost increasing. You can pick up left over 23 kawis for dirt cheap right now. Its one model year old, not 6 like the 18 rmz.

Also relax with the whole this bike can still win races stuff. It's pretty clear that skill determines race outcome. Jett could probably hope on any bike and win races/the championship next year.

Dirty Points wrote:
A '23 kx450 is 5 years old under the same logic that a '24 RMZ is 6 years old. The previous gen KX was released in...

A '23 kx450 is 5 years old under the same logic that a '24 RMZ is 6 years old. The previous gen KX was released in '19, the current gen Zook '18.

fourfourone wrote:

But the 18 zook is almost identical to the 08 zook... 

I can assure you the 08 and 18 are not almost identical. Sure the engine is pretty much identical, but they obviously look different and having ridden an 09, had a 17 and having ridden/now have a 20, the 18-24's feel completely different with the chassis changes they made in 18. 

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mattyhamz2 9/21/2023 9:29am
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AMetts wrote:

Im pretty sure they have to run production cases. 

mxb2 wrote:

Correct

ga_pike wrote:
I get the production cases thing...  but the RMX cases were production.  So in theory, could those be used (with modification) in the current RMZ frame...

I get the production cases thing...  but the RMX cases were production.  So in theory, could those be used (with modification) in the current RMZ frame with the RMZ jug?  

 

I guess another question would be could a team take someone else's production engine and put it into their frame?  So, could a GASGAS rider place a KTM motor into their frame?  Or could Suzuki put a Kawasaki motor into their frame?  

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you can't modify cases and I believe they also have to be production for that specific model.

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mxb2 9/21/2023 9:33am
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mxb2 wrote:

Correct

ga_pike wrote:
I get the production cases thing...  but the RMX cases were production.  So in theory, could those be used (with modification) in the current RMZ frame...

I get the production cases thing...  but the RMX cases were production.  So in theory, could those be used (with modification) in the current RMZ frame with the RMZ jug?  

 

I guess another question would be could a team take someone else's production engine and put it into their frame?  So, could a GASGAS rider place a KTM motor into their frame?  Or could Suzuki put a Kawasaki motor into their frame?  

mattyhamz2 wrote:

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you can't modify cases and I believe they also have to be production for that specific model.

Correct

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RoostBuckets wrote:
You guys all mean to tell me you don't want ANY updates to the RMZ? You would be upset if they lightened up a little, made...

You guys all mean to tell me you don't want ANY updates to the RMZ? You would be upset if they lightened up a little, made some improvements, added e start? Even if they did all that without altering the look!?!?! so you guys can still have the "nicest looking bikes out there"

And lets not go with the cost increasing. You can pick up left over 23 kawis for dirt cheap right now. Its one model year old, not 6 like the 18 rmz.

Also relax with the whole this bike can still win races stuff. It's pretty clear that skill determines race outcome. Jett could probably hope on any bike and win races/the championship next year.

Dirty Points wrote:
A '23 kx450 is 5 years old under the same logic that a '24 RMZ is 6 years old. The previous gen KX was released in...

A '23 kx450 is 5 years old under the same logic that a '24 RMZ is 6 years old. The previous gen KX was released in '19, the current gen Zook '18.

fourfourone wrote:

But the 18 zook is almost identical to the 08 zook... 

You gotta be trolling lol

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TeamGreen 9/21/2023 1:54pm
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Spooner wrote:
I believe suzuki even told dealers that 24's would have e-start and then dealers were surprised when it was announced and they were still just the...

I believe suzuki even told dealers that 24's would have e-start and then dealers were surprised when it was announced and they were still just the same. Maybe there was a production delay or something?

rmgsxr wrote:

They never told us anything. But then again I'm pretty new to Suzuki so maybe they forgot to tell me. 

Laughed my ass off when I read that…

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Dirty Points wrote:
A '23 kx450 is 5 years old under the same logic that a '24 RMZ is 6 years old. The previous gen KX was released in...

A '23 kx450 is 5 years old under the same logic that a '24 RMZ is 6 years old. The previous gen KX was released in '19, the current gen Zook '18.

fourfourone wrote:

But the 18 zook is almost identical to the 08 zook... 

OwenJakes wrote:

You gotta be trolling lol

The proper response to that kind of post is…

”I remember my 1st beer.” Laughing

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