Let Ken bye

9/19/2023 3:20pm
Janus9 wrote:
Maybe Jett just got it wrong or really was pushed, wanted to play it safe, and just told some story because he doesn't want to say...

Maybe Jett just got it wrong or really was pushed, wanted to play it safe, and just told some story because he doesn't want to say he played it safe, who knows, but what I do know is, I hope someone from Honda pulled Jett aside and told him, we pay you to win, not to let others win.

 

That was a total BS move by Jett. 

 

mxracer106 wrote:
I'm confused....who won again? Oh yeah....the guy who Honda pays to win. The guy that won $100K. Do you really think Honda is going to "pull...

I'm confused....who won again? Oh yeah....the guy who Honda pays to win. The guy that won $100K. Do you really think Honda is going to "pull him aside" for putting their bike on top of the podium? Wow! 

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Not after winning 2, possibly 3 titles this year. He is the golden goose to Honda.

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9/19/2023 3:39pm

Honestly it just pissed me off as a fan. I watch a race to see them race. If Kenny never got by him I still would have been stoked on the outcome. If Kenny got him it would have been epic. But to just wave him by ruined the race for me. I’m short I’m pissed the outcome wasn’t the best rider wins. It was a mind game of some sort. Pissed me off when Marv did it. It pissed me off when Joey did it. And pissed me off this time. 

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9/19/2023 3:53pm

Anyway you look at it, Jett’s going 1-1 at the next round

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I've waved alot of A riders by in H.S.

They will scream relentlessly at you otherwise...

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9/19/2023 4:17pm Edited Date/Time 9/19/2023 4:18pm

I think JT should do an article about letting ryders bye.  Stu and reed, eli and joey, hannah and broc (the 1st?), moosecan and dunge..... probably more!

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Waited all summer for someone to battle with Jet.  Sad    Maybe in LA

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Honestly it just pissed me off as a fan. I watch a race to see them race. If Kenny never got by him I still would...

Honestly it just pissed me off as a fan. I watch a race to see them race. If Kenny never got by him I still would have been stoked on the outcome. If Kenny got him it would have been epic. But to just wave him by ruined the race for me. I’m short I’m pissed the outcome wasn’t the best rider wins. It was a mind game of some sort. Pissed me off when Marv did it. It pissed me off when Joey did it. And pissed me off this time. 

Don't blame him, blame Feld/MxSports/AMA. He, at least thought, he was playing the game to put himself in an advantageous position. He can cruise to the finish, pocket 100k, not have to worry about a racing incident.

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9/19/2023 4:40pm

The wave-by was cringe... The comments on the podium made it worse. I do believe that it was just him stuffing up the math though.

But I also think that if Kenny really had a problem with it he should have spoken to Jett directly about it rather thank have a sook on social media and then double down and cry a bit more on the Pulp show about it. That to me was bitchier than the wave-by 

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9/19/2023 4:50pm

You can be sure of one thing - Jett will never let anyone by ever again.

Maybe he’ll really test their limits now and see how far his competition is willing to push to beat him.

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9/19/2023 4:54pm Edited Date/Time 9/19/2023 5:23pm
Mikeh0870 wrote:
The wave-by was cringe... The comments on the podium made it worse. I do believe that it was just him stuffing up the math though. But...

The wave-by was cringe... The comments on the podium made it worse. I do believe that it was just him stuffing up the math though.

But I also think that if Kenny really had a problem with it he should have spoken to Jett directly about it rather thank have a sook on social media and then double down and cry a bit more on the Pulp show about it. That to me was bitchier than the wave-by 

You know I was just thinking the same thing. Surely either Ken or Jett could have simply walked over to the other truck and cleared things up face to face.

Instead we’ve got one guy all hurt because he was gifted a win and another being pilloried for something that was probably far more harmless that it seemed.

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9/19/2023 4:59pm

But we had guys on here saying Kenny was cool with Jett’s family and wasn’t bothered… ugh 

9/19/2023 5:05pm

The he’s just a kid excuse has got to stop.  They’re professional’s 

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9/19/2023 5:12pm

The he’s just a kid excuse has got to stop.  They’re professional’s 

Yeah he put his hand up and told everyone he was going to win, he the won the overall and stood on the top step. It doesn't get any more professional than that. 

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9/19/2023 5:44pm

The he’s just a kid excuse has got to stop.  They’re professional’s 

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Yeah he put his hand up and told everyone he was going to win, he the won the overall and stood on the top step. It...

Yeah he put his hand up and told everyone he was going to win, he the won the overall and stood on the top step. It doesn't get any more professional than that. 

What ever you’re smoking I’ll have some 

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9/19/2023 5:50pm Edited Date/Time 9/19/2023 5:50pm

The he’s just a kid excuse has got to stop.  They’re professional’s 

Maybe he just likes to have fun.  He’s smoking everyone at the moment and having fun doing it.  What’s the problem?

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9/19/2023 6:06pm
Mxracer06y wrote:
*against a depleted field. I'm positive jett doesn't go 22-0 with tomac around. It's still impressive none the less. But it doesn't happen with everyone healthy...

*against a depleted field. I'm positive jett doesn't go 22-0 with tomac around. It's still impressive none the less. But it doesn't happen with everyone healthy

And They both pulled 10+ seconds on sexton... if you think jett wasn't trying you're high 

Give me a F'n break, ET was barely beating Chase, and Jett handled him easily for an entire season. Chase is a bad dude, depleted my...

Give me a F'n break, ET was barely beating Chase, and Jett handled him easily for an entire season. Chase is a bad dude, depleted my ass!

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Let's look at Roczen then. Roczen almost best Jett at High Point. Tomac is a MUCH better outdoor rider than Roczen (post injury, pre injury Tomac...

Let's look at Roczen then. Roczen almost best Jett at High Point. Tomac is a MUCH better outdoor rider than Roczen (post injury, pre injury Tomac was slightly better when looking at 250s). Chase didn't have the front end issues last mx season. But by golly did he fall a crap ton this year. I dont think he was going as fast as last year if Roczen almost beat Jett. I just don't think he trusted his bike, very much like how Roczen had a hard time trusting the Honda. It's pretty easy to see Jett's set up is better. That's kinda the opinion of lots of people too, at least for outdoors.

Jett prob would have won the title if Tomac was still there because Tomac doesn't get holeshots every single race like Jett does, but he would have been better than Chase. People forget Tomac won 10 straight motos last season and he had to overcome a points deficit from not doing any outdoor testing because of his knee.

You might want to go watch High Point again bud.

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Letting him by isn't the issue. The thing that makes it suspect is making sure the entire world knew you let him by that brings everything...

Letting him by isn't the issue. The thing that makes it suspect is making sure the entire world knew you let him by that brings everything into question. No matter the motivation for letting him by, the respectful way to do it is to make it look like a racing move and just say yep he got me today. Not sure why this is so hard for people to grasp. 

I guess the point system is the real problem. Jett's math was wrong, but any points system where the leader is even remotely thinking about going from 1st to 2nd as being some kind of advantage is a stupid points system. How about this idea, you want something different exciting and new ? Here ya go. Every spot is worth 1 point, last place earns 1 point and up the ladder you go to first, 1 point per spot. Each spot pays $1,000.00.  Pass the guy in front of you ? 1 grand. Pretty simple.   Then pay for gaps, $1,000.00 per second between 1st and 2nd, $500.00 per second between 2nd and 3rd, $250.00 per second between $3rd and 4th, $100.00 a second between 4th and 5th. And 6th on back gets nothing for "Gaps", just their 1K per spot. If we really want them to haul ass at full potential throw some cheese out there lol. No more cruising in first or settling for 2nd. If you get lapped that riders $1000.00 comes out of your pocket, so if you're getting lapped you better pull off or it's going to get expensive, that solves the lapper problem as well LaughingLaughingLaughing 

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httpsamasupercross.comwp-contentuploads2022122023-AMA-Supercross-Rulebook.pdf .png?VersionId=66WpWRwtAXwCEUvebSljb9tFrom the AMA rule book. Letting someone pass is not attempting to succeed. 

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9/19/2023 7:34pm
okbyenow wrote:
From the AMA rule book. Letting someone pass is not attempting to succeed. 

httpsamasupercross.comwp-contentuploads2022122023-AMA-Supercross-Rulebook.pdf .png?VersionId=66WpWRwtAXwCEUvebSljb9tFrom the AMA rule book. Letting someone pass is not attempting to succeed. 

There is a specific SMX rulebook that is more defined with this subject.  He should be penalized based on that.

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9/19/2023 7:42pm
okbyenow wrote:
From the AMA rule book. Letting someone pass is not attempting to succeed. 

httpsamasupercross.comwp-contentuploads2022122023-AMA-Supercross-Rulebook.pdf .png?VersionId=66WpWRwtAXwCEUvebSljb9tFrom the AMA rule book. Letting someone pass is not attempting to succeed. 

He didn't need to win the moto to win the race, winning the race was succeeding.

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okbyenow wrote:
From the AMA rule book. Letting someone pass is not attempting to succeed. 

httpsamasupercross.comwp-contentuploads2022122023-AMA-Supercross-Rulebook.pdf .png?VersionId=66WpWRwtAXwCEUvebSljb9tFrom the AMA rule book. Letting someone pass is not attempting to succeed. 

What do you mean?  Kenny was catching him and Jett couldn’t sustain the pace so he pulled over to let Kenny pass…

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9/19/2023 7:52pm
okbyenow wrote:
From the AMA rule book. Letting someone pass is not attempting to succeed. 

httpsamasupercross.comwp-contentuploads2022122023-AMA-Supercross-Rulebook.pdf .png?VersionId=66WpWRwtAXwCEUvebSljb9tFrom the AMA rule book. Letting someone pass is not attempting to succeed. 

ando wrote:

What do you mean?  Kenny was catching him and Jett couldn’t sustain the pace so he pulled over to let Kenny pass…

and doing so didn't effect his result in the race, just the moto.

How can winning the race not be succeeding!

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okbyenow wrote:
From the AMA rule book. Letting someone pass is not attempting to succeed. 

httpsamasupercross.comwp-contentuploads2022122023-AMA-Supercross-Rulebook.pdf .png?VersionId=66WpWRwtAXwCEUvebSljb9tFrom the AMA rule book. Letting someone pass is not attempting to succeed. 

ando wrote:

What do you mean?  Kenny was catching him and Jett couldn’t sustain the pace so he pulled over to let Kenny pass…

and doing so didn't effect his result in the race, just the moto.

How can winning the race not be succeeding!

He slowed down and literally waved him by on camera.  How is that trying to succeed?  The purpose of the rule is so results are not manipulated....and in this case that is exactly what he was trying to do and admitted it after the race.  His math was flawed, but doesn't change the intent.

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9/19/2023 8:00pm Edited Date/Time 9/19/2023 8:09pm

The he’s just a kid excuse has got to stop.  They’re professional’s 

ando wrote:

Maybe he just likes to have fun.  He’s smoking everyone at the moment and having fun doing it.  What’s the problem?

That was outdoors.  Not at the moment.  At the moment he got smoked last week in moto 1 and beat in moto 2.  This week Kenny was on his ass on basically an MX track in moto 2…and then beat him in that moto.  When you wave him by and cheat him and the fans of a battle you forfeit your right to lamely imply you could have won.  I have no idea why his fans already assume he will dominate SX.  His best competition in SX this year was RJ and Levi….and he didn’t win them all.  I can name 7 450 riders that would beat those two.  Like I have said before….SX ain’t outdoors.  How about he wins at least 1 SX on a 450 before you crown him King….and he hasn’t yet.

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Lol, wild you'll defend Deegan for a rule that should have suspended him for a year but go after Jett for something that didn't change the outcome of anything.

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9/19/2023 8:11pm
ando wrote:

What do you mean?  Kenny was catching him and Jett couldn’t sustain the pace so he pulled over to let Kenny pass…

and doing so didn't effect his result in the race, just the moto.

How can winning the race not be succeeding!

He slowed down and literally waved him by on camera.  How is that trying to succeed?  The purpose of the rule is so results are not...

He slowed down and literally waved him by on camera.  How is that trying to succeed?  The purpose of the rule is so results are not manipulated....and in this case that is exactly what he was trying to do and admitted it after the race.  His math was flawed, but doesn't change the intent.

He succeeded by winning the race, and earning 50 points for the championship, he didn't need to win the moto, letting Ken by made no difference to the overall results, the points he earned, or the money he won.

He mistakenly believed letting Ken by would reduce the number of points Chase would earn, that was an attempt to succeed in the championship.

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Lol, wild you'll defend Deegan for a rule that should have suspended him for a year but go after Jett for something that didn't change the...

Lol, wild you'll defend Deegan for a rule that should have suspended him for a year but go after Jett for something that didn't change the outcome of anything.

What did I defend Deegan about that would have gotten him suspended?  I said his intention to change the results and him announcing it was the issue.  

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Jett is having a blast either way you look at it.  

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9/19/2023 8:28pm

The he’s just a kid excuse has got to stop.  They’re professional’s 

ando wrote:

Maybe he just likes to have fun.  He’s smoking everyone at the moment and having fun doing it.  What’s the problem?

Shred wrote:
That was outdoors.  Not at the moment.  At the moment he got smoked last week in moto 1 and beat in moto 2.  This week Kenny...

That was outdoors.  Not at the moment.  At the moment he got smoked last week in moto 1 and beat in moto 2.  This week Kenny was on his ass on basically an MX track in moto 2…and then beat him in that moto.  When you wave him by and cheat him and the fans of a battle you forfeit your right to lamely imply you could have won.  I have no idea why his fans already assume he will dominate SX.  His best competition in SX this year was RJ and Levi….and he didn’t win them all.  I can name 7 450 riders that would beat those two.  Like I have said before….SX ain’t outdoors.  How about he wins at least 1 SX on a 450 before you crown him King….and he hasn’t yet.

SX on a 450 is an unknown for Jett.  I'm not going to predict he'll dominate, but at the same time there's nothing to suggest that he won't be a contender.  I guess we'll just have to see.

 

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