500 CR with CRF bottom end ?

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Edited Date/Time 9/4/2023 2:48pm

I don't have more information but saw this on Facebook, thought it would be cool to share it ! Maybe somebody will chime in with more knowledge about this build !

Peut être une image de 6 personnes, moto tout terrain, moto et texte

 

Peut être une image de 5 personnes, moto tout terrain, moto et texte

EDIT : 

It's not exactly a CRF bottom end, it's an hybrid motor using many parts from the CRF including the injection, ... 

Everything is made by Tomassin R&D in Italy and available to the public 

https://tomasinracing.net/t-500/?fbclid=IwAR2L8UiXeZ4pMNRSUxIkbdrSn-LlI…

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INeedaNewUsername 9/4/2023 2:47pm
9/4/2023 2:47pm

10k Euro for the engine kit with transmission and 15k Euro for a complete bike. Real cool machine. 

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183Matt 9/4/2023 3:11pm
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That is so bad ass!

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APLMAN99 9/4/2023 3:27pm
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INeedaNewUsername wrote:

10k Euro for the engine kit with transmission and 15k Euro for a complete bike. Real cool machine. 

Wow, that seems like a crazy good deal for the complete bike!!!

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INeedaNewUsername 9/4/2023 3:31pm
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INeedaNewUsername wrote:

10k Euro for the engine kit with transmission and 15k Euro for a complete bike. Real cool machine. 

APLMAN99 wrote:

Wow, that seems like a crazy good deal for the complete bike!!!

That's my take on the price too, unless for some reason it isn't accurate. Most definitely a consideration for 24 since I will probably bail on the Stark.

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cwtoyota 9/4/2023 5:48pm
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Someone had sent this to me a few days ago.  I think it's the same one.

 

 

 

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ShirtOff 9/4/2023 5:58pm
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Electric start and quick shifter? Let me go take a look at my bank account

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romain524 9/4/2023 6:56pm
9/4/2023 6:56pm

I saw videos of Tixier riding the bike on Instagram, it seems really easy to ride even on the super hardpack track!

15k is a decent deal considering new 450’s can be over 10k these days.

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KurtJ99 9/4/2023 9:06pm
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There are electric start kits for CR5’s but they are heavy add-ons. This one is integrated into the CRF OEM case. Pretty cool. Would be nice to compare the weight to a conventional CR500 conversion with kickstart and carb. I have a 2008 CR500 AF and was going to upgrade the chassis to a 2014-2016 but I need to look at this more. Blows my mind!

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Tokyo_Tiddler 9/4/2023 9:29pm
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I am in love with this bike.. only thing missing is an exhaust valve like the KX500 engine has.  I wonder what the porting and the power band is like.

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luckynino 9/4/2023 9:59pm
9/4/2023 9:59pm Edited Date/Time 9/4/2023 10:01pm
Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
I am in love with this bike.. only thing missing is an exhaust valve like the KX500 engine has.  I wonder what the porting and the...

I am in love with this bike.. only thing missing is an exhaust valve like the KX500 engine has.  I wonder what the porting and the power band is like.

If you want a powervalve for your CR 500 go here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3d6n-wFHtE

https://pantheramotorsports.com/pm09-top-end-assembly-for-cr500

 

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Tokyo_Tiddler 9/4/2023 10:16pm
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Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
I am in love with this bike.. only thing missing is an exhaust valve like the KX500 engine has.  I wonder what the porting and the...

I am in love with this bike.. only thing missing is an exhaust valve like the KX500 engine has.  I wonder what the porting and the power band is like.

luckynino wrote:

If you want a powervalve for your CR 500 go here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3d6n-wFHtE

https://pantheramotorsports.com/pm09-top-end-assembly-for-cr500

 

Thanks Nino.. another very cool option!

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RACING 9/4/2023 11:56pm
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kary wrote:
I don't have more information but saw this on Facebook, thought it would be cool to share it ! Maybe somebody will chime in with more...

I don't have more information but saw this on Facebook, thought it would be cool to share it ! Maybe somebody will chime in with more knowledge about this build !

Peut être une image de 6 personnes, moto tout terrain, moto et texte

 

Peut être une image de 5 personnes, moto tout terrain, moto et texte

EDIT : 

It's not exactly a CRF bottom end, it's an hybrid motor using many parts from the CRF including the injection, ... 

Everything is made by Tomassin R&D in Italy and available to the public 

https://tomasinracing.net/t-500/?fbclid=IwAR2L8UiXeZ4pMNRSUxIkbdrSn-LlI…

Actually, Tixier ran into mechanical problems in Arsago Seprio...

 

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JayByrd 9/5/2023 7:18am
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Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
I am in love with this bike.. only thing missing is an exhaust valve like the KX500 engine has.  I wonder what the porting and the...

I am in love with this bike.. only thing missing is an exhaust valve like the KX500 engine has.  I wonder what the porting and the power band is like.

luckynino wrote:

If you want a powervalve for your CR 500 go here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3d6n-wFHtE

https://pantheramotorsports.com/pm09-top-end-assembly-for-cr500

 

I’d actually like to see an updated cylinder for a KX. The aftermarket seem to gravitate towards the Honda. 

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Magoofan 9/5/2023 8:43am
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There is no replacement for displacement....

2 strokes rule.

 

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Hasletjoe 9/5/2023 9:25am
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romain524 wrote:
I saw videos of Tixier riding the bike on Instagram, it seems really easy to ride even on the super hardpack track! 15k is a decent...

I saw videos of Tixier riding the bike on Instagram, it seems really easy to ride even on the super hardpack track!

15k is a decent deal considering new 450’s can be over 10k these days.

Not much more than a Stark....

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Richy 9/5/2023 9:29am
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romain524 wrote:
I saw videos of Tixier riding the bike on Instagram, it seems really easy to ride even on the super hardpack track! 15k is a decent...

I saw videos of Tixier riding the bike on Instagram, it seems really easy to ride even on the super hardpack track!

15k is a decent deal considering new 450’s can be over 10k these days.

Hasletjoe wrote:

Not much more than a Stark....

And think how much better this will sound and smell...

Pretty badass to be honest.

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KurtJ99 9/5/2023 9:44am
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RACING wrote:

Actually, Tixier ran into mechanical problems in Arsago Seprio...

 

1st generation product is not for the faint of heart. Reliability is usually earned over several iterations of the product. 

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Magoofan 9/5/2023 9:46am
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romain524 wrote:
I saw videos of Tixier riding the bike on Instagram, it seems really easy to ride even on the super hardpack track! 15k is a decent...

I saw videos of Tixier riding the bike on Instagram, it seems really easy to ride even on the super hardpack track!

15k is a decent deal considering new 450’s can be over 10k these days.

Hasletjoe wrote:

Not much more than a Stark....

...and people won't laugh at you like they would for riding a toaster.

 

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Hasletjoe 9/5/2023 7:24pm
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romain524 wrote:
I saw videos of Tixier riding the bike on Instagram, it seems really easy to ride even on the super hardpack track! 15k is a decent...

I saw videos of Tixier riding the bike on Instagram, it seems really easy to ride even on the super hardpack track!

15k is a decent deal considering new 450’s can be over 10k these days.

Hasletjoe wrote:

Not much more than a Stark....

Magoofan wrote:

...and people won't laugh at you like they would for riding a toaster.

 

Magoo, unfortunately for me, people will laugh at me and my riding style!

 

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kott0n 9/6/2023 5:48pm
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Magoofan wrote:

There is no replacement for displacement....

2 strokes rule.

 

There's a reason, even after nearly stagnant development, they won't remove the CC limits and the 4 strokes require the CC handicap to stay on top.

A 2023 450 still doesn't put out as much hp or torque as a CR500/KX500. Which really stopped being developed in the early 90's. 

 

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