Justin Cooper Lands Full-Time 450 Deal for 2024

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8/31/2023 9:08am

I'm shocked......didn't see that coming 😂

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8/31/2023 9:09am

He deserved it.

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8/31/2023 9:09am

So...

Tomac

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Cooper

 

Very cool for JC.

 

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8/31/2023 9:13am

He had some good finishes in 450sx.

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8/31/2023 9:17am

IMG 2198Another Cooper happened to like this deal.

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8/31/2023 9:21am
Xeno wrote:

He had some good finishes in 450sx.

Yes he did. 

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8/31/2023 9:37am

Is he sticking with the same 250 team gear head to toe or is he doing his own deal?

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8/31/2023 9:46am
MxAddic wrote:

He deserved it.

Yep.

I don't know that I ever see him being a 450 Champ but he seems like the kinda guy that can have a long and solid career.  Like a Seely or Brayton or Ferry type of guy.

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8/31/2023 9:51am

Like people already said, he had good finishes in SX and will probably be a solid 4-8th place rider next year (maybe a podium even with a good start?) It's good to see that taking the 250 outdoors only ride for this year at least paid off and resulted in a full time 450 ride.

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MxAddic wrote:

He deserved it.

LungButter wrote:
Yep. I don't know that I ever see him being a 450 Champ but he seems like the kinda guy that can have a long and...

Yep.

I don't know that I ever see him being a 450 Champ but he seems like the kinda guy that can have a long and solid career.  Like a Seely or Brayton or Ferry type of guy.

Don't disagree with this take...

...it did make me realize that they are releasing a 450 guy that already fills that role (and more from a champion perspective). 

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8/31/2023 10:04am

Makes me wonder why they didnt just have him ride the 450 for all of supercross and drop back down to 250 for 2023.

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MxAddic wrote:

He deserved it.

LungButter wrote:
Yep. I don't know that I ever see him being a 450 Champ but he seems like the kinda guy that can have a long and...

Yep.

I don't know that I ever see him being a 450 Champ but he seems like the kinda guy that can have a long and solid career.  Like a Seely or Brayton or Ferry type of guy.

dsc131 wrote:
Don't disagree with this take... ...it did make me realize that they are releasing a 450 guy that already fills that role (and more from a...

Don't disagree with this take...

...it did make me realize that they are releasing a 450 guy that already fills that role (and more from a champion perspective). 

Maybe the price tag is higher 

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LungButter wrote:
Yep. I don't know that I ever see him being a 450 Champ but he seems like the kinda guy that can have a long and...

Yep.

I don't know that I ever see him being a 450 Champ but he seems like the kinda guy that can have a long and solid career.  Like a Seely or Brayton or Ferry type of guy.

dsc131 wrote:
Don't disagree with this take... ...it did make me realize that they are releasing a 450 guy that already fills that role (and more from a...

Don't disagree with this take...

...it did make me realize that they are releasing a 450 guy that already fills that role (and more from a champion perspective). 

mxb2 wrote:

Maybe the price tag is higher 

Quite a bit higher

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dsc131 wrote:
Don't disagree with this take... ...it did make me realize that they are releasing a 450 guy that already fills that role (and more from a...

Don't disagree with this take...

...it did make me realize that they are releasing a 450 guy that already fills that role (and more from a champion perspective). 

mxb2 wrote:

Maybe the price tag is higher 

JBlain619 wrote:

Quite a bit higher

Easy choice

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Makes me wonder why they didnt just have him ride the 450 for all of supercross and drop back down to 250 for 2023.

I believe in one of the podcasts I listened to this week, could have been ML and Lewis, they said they gave him the option to race more and he chose not to. 

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One year deal only? 

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8/31/2023 11:19am

Did not realize this wasn’t official yet. He basically confirmed it on PulpMX about halfway through the MX season.

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He has the speed...  I want to see how he transitions this to outdoors.  He could literally step right in where Dylan was this year.

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He is a fast dude and very good from a technical stand point, pretty textbook technique and whatnot.

I'm not here to down talk the guy, and it's great he's getting his shot, but I'll be interested to see if the 450 class exaggerates his difficulty passing people and moving forward when he doesn't get up front straight off the gate.

I hope it works out and he makes progress in that respect, I'm not trying to be negative.

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dsc131 wrote:
Don't disagree with this take... ...it did make me realize that they are releasing a 450 guy that already fills that role (and more from a...

Don't disagree with this take...

...it did make me realize that they are releasing a 450 guy that already fills that role (and more from a champion perspective). 

Also maybe because that guy has only finished 2 of 6 series as a 450 rider 

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8/31/2023 4:39pm Edited Date/Time 15 hours ago

A pissed off DF14 with something to prove is going to be a contender indoors and out. Big mistake on Star for letting DF14 go and giving his ride to J-Coop.  I don't see the logic other than Star ran out of money to pay DF14. 

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Anonymous wrote:
A pissed off DF14 with something to prove is going to be a contender indoors and out. Big mistake on Star for letting DF14 go and...

A pissed off DF14 with something to prove is going to be a contender indoors and out. Big mistake on Star for letting DF14 go and giving his ride to J-Coop.  I don't see the logic other than Star ran out of money to pay DF14. 

His ride didn't really go to J-Coop, it went to Webb...in terms of budget.

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8/31/2023 5:11pm Edited Date/Time 8/31/2023 6:58pm

I gotta say I woulda stayed with Dylan. We don't know salary requests obviously, so maybe he wouldn't have taken a cut as they are obviously paying Eli and Webb.

He's won more for them, and an injury doesn't really prove he can't be good indoors and if you look at his 450SX results, they are actually really quite good. A lot of top 5s, mostly top 10s and obviously a few injuries/bike issues. 

But he's a winner. Out and out. Has won titles and races for them and nothing to say he couldn't again! Not to say Justin couldn't either, but he's been more the podium/consistent guy rather than the killer, and the 450 class ain't a joke. 

Either way, moto is brutal – to think two really incredible guys are basically jockying for a job and there might not be a good option otherwise. Tough sport.

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Good for Justin Cooper. He will be a solid rider on the 450. Don't think he will contend for championships but might be a top 5 guy soon. 

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I mean Dylan has had 3 seasons in sx to produce. I definitely think he should have a ride, don't get me wrong. Going by what ML said his ride went to Webb. When it comes to sx everyone is choosing Webb

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I mean Dylan has had 3 seasons in sx to produce. I definitely think he should have a ride, don't get me wrong. Going by what...

I mean Dylan has had 3 seasons in sx to produce. I definitely think he should have a ride, don't get me wrong. Going by what ML said his ride went to Webb. When it comes to sx everyone is choosing Webb

I checked the Vault. Given the injuries and a bike that wasn't sorted initially, and then a new one this year, the results are actually pretty good.

Add in he won in 250 SX/MX and 450MX... I'd have kept him over Coop if the $ were the same, but we have no idea there except probably to assume as a 450 champ Dylan wanted a base that is probably higher than Justin.

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Crush wrote:
I gotta say I woulda stayed with Dylan. We don't know salary requests obviously, so maybe he wouldn't have taken a cut as they are obviously paying...

I gotta say I woulda stayed with Dylan. We don't know salary requests obviously, so maybe he wouldn't have taken a cut as they are obviously paying Eli and Webb.

He's won more for them, and an injury doesn't really prove he can't be good indoors and if you look at his 450SX results, they are actually really quite good. A lot of top 5s, mostly top 10s and obviously a few injuries/bike issues. 

But he's a winner. Out and out. Has won titles and races for them and nothing to say he couldn't again! Not to say Justin couldn't either, but he's been more the podium/consistent guy rather than the killer, and the 450 class ain't a joke. 

Either way, moto is brutal – to think two really incredible guys are basically jockying for a job and there might not be a good option otherwise. Tough sport.

I totally agree with this take. I keep Dylan all day long, no disrespect to Justin Cooper. He is a tremendous rider.

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8/31/2023 8:27pm
MxAddic wrote:

He deserved it.

LungButter wrote:
Yep. I don't know that I ever see him being a 450 Champ but he seems like the kinda guy that can have a long and...

Yep.

I don't know that I ever see him being a 450 Champ but he seems like the kinda guy that can have a long and solid career.  Like a Seely or Brayton or Ferry type of guy.

Look back to 2016/2017 timeframe; did anyone have Jason Anderson pegged as a being a 450 champ? Same could be said for Zacho in 2020. I'm not saying he's a shoe-in, but he could turn into a pleasant surprise.

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Crush wrote:
I gotta say I woulda stayed with Dylan. We don't know salary requests obviously, so maybe he wouldn't have taken a cut as they are obviously paying...

I gotta say I woulda stayed with Dylan. We don't know salary requests obviously, so maybe he wouldn't have taken a cut as they are obviously paying Eli and Webb.

He's won more for them, and an injury doesn't really prove he can't be good indoors and if you look at his 450SX results, they are actually really quite good. A lot of top 5s, mostly top 10s and obviously a few injuries/bike issues. 

But he's a winner. Out and out. Has won titles and races for them and nothing to say he couldn't again! Not to say Justin couldn't either, but he's been more the podium/consistent guy rather than the killer, and the 450 class ain't a joke. 

Either way, moto is brutal – to think two really incredible guys are basically jockying for a job and there might not be a good option otherwise. Tough sport.

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I totally agree with this take. I keep Dylan all day long, no disrespect to Justin Cooper. He is a tremendous rider.

I like DF, but maybe Star is just over him.  Could be attitude, could be price tag, could be a host of thing we will never know.  Sometimes people get cut from things even if they are good or better than someone else, because they are considered toxic.  Not saying that’s the case with DF, but it could be.

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9/1/2023 7:53am

Nice, he earned it! Must have been tough for him to get beat outdoors after sitting out SX to get ready to get the outdoors title.

For some reason I always thought he'd be one of the guys that will never do much on a 450. After his couple of SX races this year seems like I'm wrong

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