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They need to make the rule in the A class at Loretta’s one that you must race at least three nationals in order to compete…
The rule gets misinterpreted. You can break the 40 points, it's just at that point you can't do anymore if you still want to go to Loretta Lynn's.
If you race three rounds or break the 40 points threshold, you have to give up your amateur eligibility to race your next national. So you either park it until LL's, or if you do another national you can't go back to LL's.
I know they're going to re-word the rule for 2024 to try and eliminate some confusion.
Never change AMA
I’m pretty sure you can race pro sport still after anyhow. Just not A.
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Majority of the kids racing A have never raced a pro national and won’t until they’re done racing A class.
While the wording can be better, they got this one right to prevent riders from “taking a dive” and pulling off to avoid going over.
It's so fucking stupid allowing these kids to turn professional and then just turn amateur again a few weeks later.
Yep just another way to cater to the factory supported teams while still keeping entries up in the A classes.
If you hold a current Pro license you are a Pro IMO you should not be able to be a Pro Amateur
Agree with both of these. Kinda feels like these kids are more or less being given a hall pass to sandbag in the amateur ranks. They already went pro, they already have a ride, what’s the point even?
I disagree. Pro-Privateers need a place to showcase their talents.
I actually think the purpose is the complete opposite. But the factory teams take advantage of the rules.
I think it's so a top local/ 40th place national rider can race the local pro national then still be able to race Loretta's. Otherwise if your not quite pro level. If you do try 1 national you cannot be amateur again. So it allows that level rider some flexibility. Then the factory's take advantage of the rules.
Yeah, there’s totally some value there for privateers. Most in those circumstances will not go pro and drop back down to do LL’s a few weeks later.
It’s a double edged sword really. It’s easier to have rules that apply to everyone equally, and the larger, factory teams having a presence at LL’s undoubtedly have a positive impact on the turnout.
They need to eliminate the rule. It’s pathetic for our sport. You race a pro race your done with Loretta’s.. It’s just a dam free for all. Not a good look.
He can race Pro Sport all he wants... Whats the problem?
I'm on the unpopular side of this one. I like the rule and most guys, especially outside the factory level, always seem to be blown away at how gnarly the pro field really is. I like the idea of them getting a small taste, getting their teeth kicked in, and hopefully walking away going "Shit, I really have to dig deep if I want to do this".
Personally, I think it can help some guys make the transition as they can learn what to really expect before it's too late and they've gone full-time. Quite a few kids who have made it through amateurs on talent and just a lot of riding time struggle with the real thing. I'd like the younger kids coming up to be more successful and not get booted for lack of results quite as quickly. Our sport has seemed to have struggled a lot in the last 5-8 years it seems like. That's just my opinion.
Who does it harm?
There should only be displacement classes at LL. I get this is capitalism, and it's all about money, but I don't even bother paying attention to LL's because there's so many filler classes. C classes should completely be eliminated from at least the premier amateur national.
As for advancement they should really look at the USA BMX model, it's pretty cut and dry.
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Hopefully Bennick will be beating deegan next year anyway.
I think whenever you have amateurs competing against the pros, with a “open door come and go as you please policy” it waters down how elite and exclusive the the class is. You don’t see college football stars competing in the NFL just to see where they stand… There’s so MUCHHH more prestige with sports that have a defined boundary when it comes to amateurs and professionals .
plus, what is a Loretta’s title going to do for bennick anyway. he already has a ride. If he doesn’t annihilate the field that looks bad and regardless he only probably has a 2 year make or break contract with star. It changes nothing
I think the whole thing needs an overhaul. C racers should be true C racers, B, A etc…. This sandbagging stuff is stupid. Otherwise just divide it by age and let it be unlimited, run what you bring who ever you are. IMO it shocked some people last year when Cole Martinez came out and beat all those “up and coming kids”, and I was surprised that didn’t create more change.
Thanks ML, Not sure why the down votes, I have zero skin in the game, just trying to understand how he pointed over and was still showing up to LL.
This is my biggest beef with LL. It screws up local racing classes. C class is beginner. Not a pimply faced kid scrubbing every jump running A rider lap times hoping to turn pro. It really is quite a mess at the local races.
I think it's lame. He was a top 10-15 guy, and now he's heading back to LL's for what? He has the ride, he's part of the program, he has the pro experience, what's the point? Is he going to start his career at Dilla anyways?
You mean like the vet classes at the amature national? Yeah. Pretty damn dumb.
Any pro kids should only be eligible for pro sport.
Dude, we get it. You don’t want to have to race anyone faster than you.
I bet none of you guys will be crying about matti jorgensen or anyone else that raced 3 pro races though.
I was talking about their easily misunderstood wording in the rule book.
I really think IF they would actually enforce the Claiming rule - claim that bike! IMO it was a travesty Deagans bike was not taken away from him once claimed!
My local races I asked if I could try the A class and if I didn’t feel comfortable can I go back and they told me no. Once you try it you are in it. Seems odd to have this rule for the “pro” class but guess there are only a handoff people using it so in the end doesn’t make a difference one way or the other
I have no problem racing guys faster than me that aren't milking a system. I love seeing a fast mfker that puts 40-50 hours in at work a week who has never been paid by a factory to hone their professional level skill set..
"TrY hArDeR". How about no, they can keep trying harder and continue to race with people of their skill level instead of taking the cherry picking route and going at it with minimal training relying on their skill set that will never disappear.. Their fitness will dwindle because they quit working as hard.
A vet pro class would put guys together that have similar skill sets. Or, they can go race the appropriate A class at the few vet nationals a year. If they don't like it, quit.
Again, these factory kids who have raced nats, should be forced to be in pro sport and only pro sport.
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