For those of you who don't know, LeBigUSA.com is a french speaking paying website run by moto reporter Stephan Legrand, a frenchman who lives in Vegas. Each week, Yannig Kervella, french ex-racer and trainer with a reputation of "telling it like it is", former coach to Shimoda, has a one hour last race debriefing podcast, talking with Legrand.
I was kinda shocked at what I heard today, since he starts with a looooong rant "asking questions" about Haiden Deegan. Here are a few highlights I translated.
“How can a 17 year old have his 13th race lap in the 2nd moto faster than his best morning lap and 3 seconds faster than anyone. Nobody understands how he can do that. How is it possible?”
“I hope he’s not taking “orange juice”.”
“The Deegan family has always been cheating, cutting tracks, oversize bikes. When you have a cheating spirit where does it end?”
“I’m a trainer, there’s no magic.”
“Cyclists who are “charged” don’t feel tired.”
“I’m not accusing, I’m asking some questions.”
“It’s very surprising.”
Also calling Deegan names like punk, asshole…
20 minutes of phony gutter innuendo. Just can't believe my ears. Compared to these two, Cooksey and Hopper deserve a Pulitzer.
I haven't heard it myself and a lot of stuff translates badly from other languages, a lot of things with the Eastern European dudes in the UK sound way harsher or more insulting that they are meant especially with cursing and misused slang, not saying that's the case, just saying...
But it doesn't sound good on the face of it.
As far as lap times, sometimes something just clicks doesn't it, sometimes you settle into a line that's finally developed and it just floats your boat, maybe the setup tweaks between motos starting working out for him half way through the second moto... I don't think picking out obscure instances like that and pointing at PED's is a smart way to conduct themselves if they're in the media.
But, I think he's factually correct on the cheater bike and track cutting IN THE PAST, isn't he? I can't see them cheating in the big leagues though.
Didn’t work at southwick if he is, and you’d have thought if any track it would make a difference that would be it.
Mx is way more about technique, race iq & mental awareness then peds imo.
Not to derail your thread but Hopper is killing it with the short vids and reels he's putting out. Breaking down little technical stuff guys do in race the that the broadcast doesn't catch. It's really good.
100% on Hopper's newest work, good stuff. Give it a look.
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Life is different when you are worth money to someone else. To be 17 and have a nutritionist and trainer and your only objective is to win races would be magical
Did he miss the part where something clicked with Deegan? he was running a good pace for 20mins then just went ballistic like a sense of belief and confidence, I've watched the replay a few times now, when Deegan went beast mode he showed 2 lines that no one did on the day.
If Deegan "is on the juice" we gotta question literally every factory rider past and present who can charge the full distance.
I find it uncanny that when a person has a ride of their life such accusations emerge, there was a thread on here asking the same question with Jett.
It's so good! I've been very critical of him in the past but he gained me as a sub after I watched some of those. It's just Cooksey alone at the bottom of the barrel now lol
To me there's a slight difference in what you expect to get from a Vital member and "professional" media guys.
Explain?
Edit : never mind I miss read your original post.
Yes it is a bad look and seems personal, no matter what profession or how respected you are in media you still have biased, it is a shit move by these people to say something like that, I'm cool with speculation that this sport or any sport has rife PED use but to single out someone who is doing nothing different in terms of performance as many other riders, RC charged start to finished, JS, RV etc, what about Herlings almost lapping the field in the sand the list can go on, but singling out someone is just pathetic.
The USA talk really getting to these guys I guess. What a dumb theory....
There is a place around the Tallahassee/Cairo area that gives IV’s im sure you could catch some of the yamaha crew in there during the week.
If ped use gives you a paunchy body with no hair anywhere I'll pass.
I would understand a regular joe thinking that but a 'trainer' I am confused. He of all people should know no elite athlete rides or competes at their 100% aerobic limit at all times. Kid decides to empty the tank and now he's on something? At 17? ...
Motocross/supercross is the only sport on earth where there is millions at stake that the fans think they don’t use PEDs.
I am not a fan of the family and talking out of both sides of their mouths But no Denying the kid has talent and he is fit !!!!!! Give credit where credit is due kid has a Bright future in MX/SX no doubt
Im sure Tomac could do the same thing, turn a hot lap at the end of the moto when its not needed for the win but he probably wouldnt. Deegan is a rookie and had something to prove maybe a little young and dumb risking possibly throwing away the moto win but it showed he had the confidence and the fitness, kudos.
You're acting like the AMA and MX Sports wouldn't have some sort of testing protocol to keep the racers clean from performance-enhancing drugs... Oh wait, they don't anymore
Are you talking about the same Hopper who makes stuff up? Like his latest short clip where he shows Jett at Millville on the step up where he "uses his whole hand to grab the clutch and brake tap"..? No pro is ever going to use their whole hand to grab a clutch, amateurs barely do that. And you can see it clearly in the video he only used 2 fingers because he releases the clutch and his outside fingers never leave the handlebar.
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Perfectly legal to do so as well. JT used to do it as a privateer
A trainer could educate himself enough to pass those test.
What tests ??
It's unfair to single out just Deegan, but at the same time I think its a little naïve to think that doping is not happening in our sport.
With the history and connections a lot of riders have to trainers/people with professional cycling backgrounds, I think it's pretty likely some big names have dabbled in stuff over the years, or if not then they probably got the option too.
Yes bike skill, set up and mental strength is huge, but so is the fitness side of it
I'd 100% rather be be proven wrong though. Lets get some test results.
Yes that one.
Good point.
Devil’s advocate view. Who cares if he’s doing PEDs? It’s not gonna make him get a start, nail the inside rut, send it up HP hill like a mad man, or impact many of the factors that come into play when you are truly fast. Is it against the rules? Why is clean fast better than PED fast? In some sports I see the logic but no so much here. Sure, fitness matters but if you are juiced and always on the ground, or have poor technique, it won’t help anyway.
I think a pro MX rider should easily be able to get into decent enough shape without peds.
Mx is tough, but it’s a long way off some other sports.
For example Racing 70.3 / 140.6 Ironman it’s very clear how peds would be huge advantage, 2 x 30 min Moto’s with an hour rest should be plenty doable for pro rider with all the backing.
Meanwhile Brian and Haiden are probably sitting back laughing about this.
The kid rode his ass off and pushed as hard as he could. The last few laps were unnecessarily fast, but some of us know when you get in that groove sometimes you just stay there. He rode awesome and you can’t take that away from him.
So you don’t see being stronger on the bike and being able to sustain a 180-210 heart rate late in the moto as an advantage?
Interesting.
Were PEDs prevalent back in your day ?
peds would probably help someone be consistent the entire race. peds are not going to help someone just gain outright speed lmfao.
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