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7/22/2023 5:16pm

seriously, listen to the crowd. this is johnson/mcgrath territory. this is crazy.

I wasn’t lying! Outside of the California rounds, these crowds have been massive!

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7/22/2023 5:19pm

Crashes 5 times in 3 races = Chase “My riding has been good.” 🤣 

Riding over your head is not speed. 
 

And Jett is ridiculous. I’m curious what Tomac will have for him if the #3 races supy.

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7/22/2023 5:20pm
Crashes 5 times in 3 races = Chase “My riding has been good.” 🤣  Riding over your head is not speed.    And Jett is ridiculous...

Crashes 5 times in 3 races = Chase “My riding has been good.” 🤣 

Riding over your head is not speed. 
 

And Jett is ridiculous. I’m curious what Tomac will have for him if the #3 races supy.

Nothing. Tomac should go to WSX full time instead of disgracing himself

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7/22/2023 5:22pm
It's like we're seeing RC/Windham again. Chase managed to get that title Kdub never could at least. But he's up against a monster. And all the...

It's like we're seeing RC/Windham again. Chase managed to get that title Kdub never could at least. But he's up against a monster. And all the fans will trash him now for laying it down again, even though he kept Jett honest and put 40sec on 3rd

It's a little funny how it's a bit of a meme often he washes out. But he pushed Jett nearly the entire moto and Jett nearly washed out a few times too. If he does this each week. It's very possible Jett is the one who washes out and Chase can cruise to a win once he goes down.

I hope he can make a pass on Jett (after title is wrapped up) and we get to see just how hard Jett is willing to push it. 

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7/22/2023 5:24pm

I’m not a huge Deegan fan, but he ran a lap in the 2:15 range? I’m not a big Lawrence fan either, but why do I keep hearing how he’s revolutionizing the sport

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aeffertz
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7/22/2023 5:27pm
aeffertz wrote:

Guessing a 20th for Carson Brown for the highest 2T placement. 

IMG 3991 0Tied Anton with 3 points for 20th but had a worse second moto. Not a bad guess! 

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7/22/2023 5:28pm Edited Date/Time 7/22/2023 5:30pm

what if he wins them all then does the same in supercross. no one has ever won them all indoors. to do this outdoors in his rookie season and then be the first indoors, back to back, I mean talk about earth shattering.

I know, way too early, I get it.

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7/22/2023 5:29pm
Maddog55 wrote:
I’m not a huge Deegan fan, but he ran a lap in the 2:15 range? I’m not a big Lawrence fan either, but why do I...

I’m not a huge Deegan fan, but he ran a lap in the 2:15 range? I’m not a big Lawrence fan either, but why do I keep hearing how he’s revolutionizing the sport

Who is saying Jett is revolutionizing the sport?  This is news to me.

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7/22/2023 5:32pm

Why'd y'all say I'm not a fan of "pick a number"? I'm a fan of all of these crazy fast mofo's. 

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7/22/2023 5:36pm
what if he wins them all then does the same in supercross. no one has ever won them all indoors. to do this outdoors in his...

what if he wins them all then does the same in supercross. no one has ever won them all indoors. to do this outdoors in his rookie season and then be the first indoors, back to back, I mean talk about earth shattering.

I know, way too early, I get it.

And then what if he goes undefeated next summer after going undefeated in sx?

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7/22/2023 5:36pm

Funny how they kept saying old school 2strokes yet they have 2024 electric start, fuel injected ones out there and they have to be less then 5 years old. 

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7/22/2023 6:02pm
Rotaholic wrote:
Funny how they kept saying old school 2strokes yet they have 2024 electric start, fuel injected ones out there and they have to be less then...

Funny how they kept saying old school 2strokes yet they have 2024 electric start, fuel injected ones out there and they have to be less then 5 years old. 

"Than" Rotomoto, not "then".

Crazy how that bugs me so much. Must have something to do with sucking at math.

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7/22/2023 6:04pm
Rotaholic wrote:
Funny how they kept saying old school 2strokes yet they have 2024 electric start, fuel injected ones out there and they have to be less then...

Funny how they kept saying old school 2strokes yet they have 2024 electric start, fuel injected ones out there and they have to be less then 5 years old. 

wildbill wrote:

"Than" Rotomoto, not "then".

Crazy how that bugs me so much. Must have something to do with sucking at math.

"Rotaholic" not "rotomoto".

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Rotaholic wrote:
Funny how they kept saying old school 2strokes yet they have 2024 electric start, fuel injected ones out there and they have to be less then...

Funny how they kept saying old school 2strokes yet they have 2024 electric start, fuel injected ones out there and they have to be less then 5 years old. 

Are all their 2-strokes E-start? Unnecessary added weight, no?

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7/22/2023 6:43pm
motokiwi wrote:

G.R.O.A.T Greatest Rookie Of All Time

He’s not a rookie, 4th year pro! Haiden is a rookie. 
about G.1st 450 S.O.A.T.😉

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7/22/2023 6:51pm

Guna look pretty silly when Sexton is crowned super duper universal moto supercross champion after Jett absolutely dominated him outdoors

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7/22/2023 7:01pm
It's like we're seeing RC/Windham again. Chase managed to get that title Kdub never could at least. But he's up against a monster. And all the...

It's like we're seeing RC/Windham again. Chase managed to get that title Kdub never could at least. But he's up against a monster. And all the fans will trash him now for laying it down again, even though he kept Jett honest and put 40sec on 3rd

mxlegend99 wrote:
It's a little funny how it's a bit of a meme often he washes out. But he pushed Jett nearly the entire moto and Jett nearly...

It's a little funny how it's a bit of a meme often he washes out. But he pushed Jett nearly the entire moto and Jett nearly washed out a few times too. If he does this each week. It's very possible Jett is the one who washes out and Chase can cruise to a win once he goes down.

I hope he can make a pass on Jett (after title is wrapped up) and we get to see just how hard Jett is willing to push it. 

So chase almost made jett make a mistake.

But chase has made 4 or 5 chasing jett.

So it's 0-5 in actual mistakes an yet you somehow try an sway some sort of advantage to chase. 

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7/22/2023 7:10pm
Rotaholic wrote:
Funny how they kept saying old school 2strokes yet they have 2024 electric start, fuel injected ones out there and they have to be less then...

Funny how they kept saying old school 2strokes yet they have 2024 electric start, fuel injected ones out there and they have to be less then 5 years old. 

wildbill wrote:

"Than" Rotomoto, not "then".

Crazy how that bugs me so much. Must have something to do with sucking at math.

aeffertz wrote:

"Rotaholic" not "rotomoto".

I know, but perhaps my ...holic state got the best of me.

7/22/2023 7:23pm

Who saw girl flash jett lol

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7/22/2023 7:24pm
dbaker521 wrote:

Kinda have a feeling Cooper was told to let him by…

crusty_xx wrote:

There were 10 points between them before Deegan went by 

Just throwing it out there. Too easy of pass.  

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7/22/2023 7:29pm
It's like we're seeing RC/Windham again. Chase managed to get that title Kdub never could at least. But he's up against a monster. And all the...

It's like we're seeing RC/Windham again. Chase managed to get that title Kdub never could at least. But he's up against a monster. And all the fans will trash him now for laying it down again, even though he kept Jett honest and put 40sec on 3rd

mxlegend99 wrote:
It's a little funny how it's a bit of a meme often he washes out. But he pushed Jett nearly the entire moto and Jett nearly...

It's a little funny how it's a bit of a meme often he washes out. But he pushed Jett nearly the entire moto and Jett nearly washed out a few times too. If he does this each week. It's very possible Jett is the one who washes out and Chase can cruise to a win once he goes down.

I hope he can make a pass on Jett (after title is wrapped up) and we get to see just how hard Jett is willing to push it. 

mx313 wrote:
So chase almost made jett make a mistake. But chase has made 4 or 5 chasing jett. So it's 0-5 in actual mistakes an yet you...

So chase almost made jett make a mistake.

But chase has made 4 or 5 chasing jett.

So it's 0-5 in actual mistakes an yet you somehow try an sway some sort of advantage to chase. 

He really didn't do anything of the sort. He said Chase is trying to push Jett into a mistake. Norhing more, nothing less. We get it. You think Jett is the best. We all agree

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7/22/2023 7:30pm
Maddog55 wrote:
I’m not a huge Deegan fan, but he ran a lap in the 2:15 range? I’m not a big Lawrence fan either, but why do I...

I’m not a huge Deegan fan, but he ran a lap in the 2:15 range? I’m not a big Lawrence fan either, but why do I keep hearing how he’s revolutionizing the sport

tuttle425 wrote:

Who is saying Jett is revolutionizing the sport?  This is news to me.

A lot of people. Hes not doing anything individually that is completely revolutionary, but hes putting together all of the different pieces that make him revolutionary as a total package.
 

A rider like ricky had incredible fitness but horrible footwork, james had incredible speed but horrible consistency, mcgrath was the greatest sx rider ever but was only avg at mx, tomac has phenominal speed indoors and out but gets bad starts and has weirdo races, dungey had incredible consistency but not as much speed as the top couple guys, villopoto had #1 speed in sx but not in mx, reed was the same but much less consistent than rv, roczen has incredible early race speed but fades late in races. 
 

Jett is looking like the first ever guy that puts it all together into the total package. He is the fastest guy, the most fit, the most consistent, the best starter, has the best fundamentals, rides the smartest, makes the least mistakes, is just as good in sx as he is in mx…etc. Nobody else has ever had all of that at once. Each individual thing may not be the greatest weve ever seen like js7 probably had more all out speed, but as the total package jett is better at more things than anyone else before. 
 

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7/22/2023 7:39pm
Maddog55 wrote:
I’m not a huge Deegan fan, but he ran a lap in the 2:15 range? I’m not a big Lawrence fan either, but why do I...

I’m not a huge Deegan fan, but he ran a lap in the 2:15 range? I’m not a big Lawrence fan either, but why do I keep hearing how he’s revolutionizing the sport

tuttle425 wrote:

Who is saying Jett is revolutionizing the sport?  This is news to me.

Pop Shmoke wrote:
A lot of people. Hes not doing anything individually that is completely revolutionary, but hes putting together all of the different pieces that make him revolutionary...

A lot of people. Hes not doing anything individually that is completely revolutionary, but hes putting together all of the different pieces that make him revolutionary as a total package.
 

A rider like ricky had incredible fitness but horrible footwork, james had incredible speed but horrible consistency, mcgrath was the greatest sx rider ever but was only avg at mx, tomac has phenominal speed indoors and out but gets bad starts and has weirdo races, dungey had incredible consistency but not as much speed as the top couple guys, villopoto had #1 speed in sx but not in mx, reed was the same but much less consistent than rv, roczen has incredible early race speed but fades late in races. 
 

Jett is looking like the first ever guy that puts it all together into the total package. He is the fastest guy, the most fit, the most consistent, the best starter, has the best fundamentals, rides the smartest, makes the least mistakes, is just as good in sx as he is in mx…etc. Nobody else has ever had all of that at once. Each individual thing may not be the greatest weve ever seen like js7 probably had more all out speed, but as the total package jett is better at more things than anyone else before. 
 

A lot of generalisations in there, but I generally agree.

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7/22/2023 7:54pm
mxlegend99 wrote:
It's a little funny how it's a bit of a meme often he washes out. But he pushed Jett nearly the entire moto and Jett nearly...

It's a little funny how it's a bit of a meme often he washes out. But he pushed Jett nearly the entire moto and Jett nearly washed out a few times too. If he does this each week. It's very possible Jett is the one who washes out and Chase can cruise to a win once he goes down.

I hope he can make a pass on Jett (after title is wrapped up) and we get to see just how hard Jett is willing to push it. 

mx313 wrote:
So chase almost made jett make a mistake. But chase has made 4 or 5 chasing jett. So it's 0-5 in actual mistakes an yet you...

So chase almost made jett make a mistake.

But chase has made 4 or 5 chasing jett.

So it's 0-5 in actual mistakes an yet you somehow try an sway some sort of advantage to chase. 

He really didn't do anything of the sort. He said Chase is trying to push Jett into a mistake. Norhing more, nothing less. We get it...

He really didn't do anything of the sort. He said Chase is trying to push Jett into a mistake. Norhing more, nothing less. We get it. You think Jett is the best. We all agree

He is basically saying. Chase is just about to crack jett. But has has cracked 5 times trying. 

Like chase is getting the upper hand.

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7/22/2023 8:14pm
mx313 wrote:
So chase almost made jett make a mistake. But chase has made 4 or 5 chasing jett. So it's 0-5 in actual mistakes an yet you...

So chase almost made jett make a mistake.

But chase has made 4 or 5 chasing jett.

So it's 0-5 in actual mistakes an yet you somehow try an sway some sort of advantage to chase. 

He really didn't do anything of the sort. He said Chase is trying to push Jett into a mistake. Norhing more, nothing less. We get it...

He really didn't do anything of the sort. He said Chase is trying to push Jett into a mistake. Norhing more, nothing less. We get it. You think Jett is the best. We all agree

mx313 wrote:

He is basically saying. Chase is just about to crack jett. But has has cracked 5 times trying. 

Like chase is getting the upper hand.

Well if he indeed thinks Chase is getting the upper hand, he's incorrect lol

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7/22/2023 8:22pm

seriously, listen to the crowd. this is johnson/mcgrath territory. this is crazy.

aeffertz wrote:

I wasn’t lying! Outside of the California rounds, these crowds have been massive!

yes but I mean when Jett is giving his podium interview. I don’t recall hearing that before. maybe ever. this kid is a star. 

7/22/2023 10:42pm
Pop Shmoke wrote:

DV mentioned it on the podcast last week how he keeps losing the front over n over for 2 years. Hes gotta change something. 

He is changing something next year, his bike. If it continues on the KTM then we know it’s 100% him, if it stops we know it was an issue he had with the Honda. I personally believe we won’t see him do it as much on the KTM, but time will tell.

7/22/2023 10:43pm

450 stats 

 

Overall wins

 

8 = Jett Lawrence 

 

Overall podiums

 

8 = Jett Lawrence 

5 = Dylan Ferrandis 

5 = Chase Sexton 

2 = Cooper Webb 

1 = Aaron Plessinger 

1 = Ken Roczen 

1 = Adam Cianciarulo 

1 = Jason Anderson 

 

Race wins

 

16 = Jett Lawrence 

 

Race top 3

 

16 = Jett Lawrence 

12 = Dylan Ferrandis 

10 = Chase Sexton 

3 = Cooper Webb

3 = Aaron Plessinger

1 = Adam Cianciarulo 

1 = Ken Roczen 

1 = Garrett Marchbanks 

1 = Jason Anderson 

 

Laps lead

 

233 = Jett Lawrence 

16 = Ken Roczen 

3 = Aaron Plessinger 

2 = Dylan Ferrandis 

 

Holeshot

 

8 = Jett Lawrence 

4 = Dylan Ferrandis 

2 = Chase Sexton 

1 = Ken Roczen 

1 = Adam Cianciarulo 

 

Fastest lap of the race

 

11 = Jett Lawrence 

4 = Chase Sexton 

1 = Ken Roczen 

 

Fastest in practice 

 

7 = Jett Lawrence 

1 = Ken Roczen 

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250 stats

 

Overall wins

 

5 = Hunter Lawrence 

2 = Haiden Deegan

1 = Tom Vialle

 

Overall podiums

 

6 = Hunter Lawrence 

6 = Justin Cooper 

5 = Haiden Deegan

2 = RJ Hampshire 

2 = Levi Kitchen 

2 = Jo Shimoda 

1 = Tom Vialle

 

Race wins

 

6 = Hunter Lawrence 

3 = Haiden Deegan 

2 = RJ Hampshire 

2 = Justin Cooper 

1 = Levi Kitchen 

1 = Tom Vialle

1 = Jo Shimoda 

 

Race top 3

 

12 = Hunter Lawrence 

8 = Justin Cooper 

7 = Haiden Deegan 

6 = Tom Vialle 

5 = RJ Hampshire 

5 = Jo Shimoda 

3 = Levi Kitchen 

1 = Max Vohland 

1 = Chance Hymas

 

Laps lead

 

86 = Hunter Lawrence 

43 = Haiden Deegan 

42 = Justin Cooper 

27 = Jo Shimoda 

21 = RJ Hampshire 

16 = Levi Kitchen 

11 = Tom Vialle 

6 = Chance Hymas

 

Holeshot

 

4 = Haiden Deegan 

4 = Justin Cooper 

3 = Hunter Lawrence 

1 = Jalek Swoll

1 = RJ Hampshire 

1 = Levi Kitchen 

1 = Tom Vialle 

1 = Jo Shimoda 

 

Fastest lap of the race

 

7 = Hunter Lawrence 

3 = Haiden Deegan 

2 = RJ Hampshire 

1 = Chance Hymas

1 = Levi Kitchen 

1 = Justin Cooper 

1 = Jo Shimoda 

 

Fastest in practice 

 

4 = Justin Cooper 

1 = Haiden Deegan 

1 = Daxton Bennick

1 = James Decotis

1 = Hunter Lawrence 

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