A helmet that knows when you've crashed...

captmoto
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7/21/2023 3:14pm
Zycki11 wrote:

$7.99 per month for helmet technology. Money grab

How is it a money grab if you can opt out of using one?

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7/21/2023 3:26pm
Zycki11 wrote:
If you provide a product with nothing but bells and whistles to charge extra while the helmet protects the same? I question the concept. Why wouldn’t...

If you provide a product with nothing but bells and whistles to charge extra while the helmet protects the same? I question the concept. Why wouldn’t you provide something that is going to prevent head injury better? Not a gimmicky sales pitch 

ML512 wrote:
Fly just dropped the new Formula helmet two years ago with the latest in safety technology they could develop and partner on. It's one of the...

Fly just dropped the new Formula helmet two years ago with the latest in safety technology they could develop and partner on. It's one of the best helmets on the market and they've added a new safety feature for those that find value in it. There is NO helmet on the market or in existence that can completely end the possibility of getting a concussion or a possible TBI. This allows a little extra safety layer for those situations, especially when someone is in a situation where no one is around to support them. It's $100 more than the standard Formula carbon and they have a range of helmets without the new Quin recorder. 

Might want to use a slightly different word when saying this...

"Fly just dropped the new Formula helmet two years ago"

Maybe, Fly just "introduced" the new Formula helmet two years ago. 

Video's are "dropped", products are "introduced". 

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7/21/2023 5:05pm

Given all the cases of CTE affecting NFL players, rugby players and becoming evident in all sports I was wondering how long something like this would take for MX. Good on Fly for getting it out there first and I’m sure they won’t be the last. I can easily see it not being long before the LED system is used to detect impacts big enough to cause concussion and that being used by medics to decide if head assessments are required and that’s no bad thing if it saves someone’s life. 

Can see the appeal for you trail boys as well. No pun intended but the tech seems like a no-brainer. The added stuff for lap tracking etc is also cool.

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7/21/2023 5:29pm
ML512 wrote:
Fly just dropped the new Formula helmet two years ago with the latest in safety technology they could develop and partner on. It's one of the...

Fly just dropped the new Formula helmet two years ago with the latest in safety technology they could develop and partner on. It's one of the best helmets on the market and they've added a new safety feature for those that find value in it. There is NO helmet on the market or in existence that can completely end the possibility of getting a concussion or a possible TBI. This allows a little extra safety layer for those situations, especially when someone is in a situation where no one is around to support them. It's $100 more than the standard Formula carbon and they have a range of helmets without the new Quin recorder. 

Zycki11 wrote:
I get it for trail riders again... and I have not stated that it should eradicate concussions. I made the point that it did not provide...

I get it for trail riders again... and I have not stated that it should eradicate concussions. I made the point that it did not provide any extra protection for your actual head and that it was a bell and whistle ploy and clearly I missed the emergency contact when I first read the information.  Even still, trail riding alone is idiotic and everyone who rides knows this.  

aees wrote:
Well, it will provide extra protection for you. It can be a matter of seconds if you are out. If someone falls and is alone on...

Well, it will provide extra protection for you. It can be a matter of seconds if you are out. If someone falls and is alone on a lap on a MX track, it can take several minutes before another rider comes by or your friend in the paddock realize you are out. 

I will argue the opposite from what you say. Just as any addition in safety to a helmet, it is not always applicable in 100% of the scenarios. 

So this addition, will make it safer to ride if you use it to its full potential.

I had a friend crash and get knocked out for over a minute. While everybody at the practice track was stopped and helping my friend there was another rider who went down at the opposite end of the track. There was a hill between that rider and the parking area near where my friend had crashed.  That other rider broke his leg and was laying on the ground waiting for help , not knowing that another rider was hurt and that everybody stopped riding. I do not remember how long he was waiting, or if he was able to get up himself after he saw that there were not any riders coming by. It could have helped him, and it could have easily been reversed.   I agree that this helmet could help in many ways. even on a mx track. And they can add features to it too as they go. 

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7/21/2023 5:37pm Edited Date/Time 7/21/2023 6:44pm
captmoto wrote:
Several of my riding friends have my wife's contact info in the event I am wrecked enough that I can't call. It's a good back up...

Several of my riding friends have my wife's contact info in the event I am wrecked enough that I can't call. It's a good back up idea.

I can't imagine not having my wife as one of the emergency contacts.    That's gonna fly well when you're in the ER and she doesn't know.  

My wife has my InReach account info, I make sure each time I go out...especially when i'm alone.     If I don't come home from a day out in the hills, she can locate me...(or at least my body). 

 

This technology has been around a while....  Nothing new here.  lol

 

 

 

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7/21/2023 5:49pm
Zycki11 wrote:
If you provide a product with nothing but bells and whistles to charge extra while the helmet protects the same? I question the concept. Why wouldn’t...

If you provide a product with nothing but bells and whistles to charge extra while the helmet protects the same? I question the concept. Why wouldn’t you provide something that is going to prevent head injury better? Not a gimmicky sales pitch 

731chopper wrote:
Seems like a good product to me for guys who ride alone. I know back when I was riding a lot by myself on my own...

Seems like a good product to me for guys who ride alone. I know back when I was riding a lot by myself on my own track with nobody else around, I would’ve liked this. 

Not just that, also for us junior parents who's kids are racing Off-Road / GNCC type of events, looks like you will be able to track the rider.

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7/21/2023 9:04pm

If u think u need this technology you'd better stay home.

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7/21/2023 9:43pm

A company makes something that can save people's lives and some of you Neanderthals consider that a bad thing. I am honestly surprised, vital can have a pretty silly group of active users but this might take the cake. 

Worst crash I ever had on the trails I was by myself. Luckily, I had a friend a few miles back come soon after. Tech like this intrigues me and would encourage me to get back out there more. 

I'm just disappointed in the community here, everyone has had a serious crash or injury at some point and you know this isn't a joke or money grab. 

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7/21/2023 11:28pm

If u think u need this technology you'd better stay home.

So you're out in the middle of nowhere, alone....body broken, unconscious.    You'd rather bleed out?    That's pretty badass bro....  

 

The only shortcoming of the product they are offering is it's limited to cell range for it to work.     ...but as mentioned before, InReach  PLB type devices are not limited to cellular coverage. 

 

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7/22/2023 2:25am

Are Fly helmets better for oval heads or round heads?

In my experience, oval, which almost all helmets sold in America are made for. To get a helmet for a truly round shaped head you need an Asian fit which is very hard to find here. Even the Japanese moto helmets sell different shaped helmets compared to in Japan and other parts of Asia. For skiing I was able to get my oldest son who is half Asian an Asian fit helmet that fits him much better. 

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7/22/2023 5:56am Edited Date/Time 7/22/2023 5:58am
captmoto wrote:
Several of my riding friends have my wife's contact info in the event I am wrecked enough that I can't call. It's a good back up...

Several of my riding friends have my wife's contact info in the event I am wrecked enough that I can't call. It's a good back up idea.

Magoofan wrote:
I can't imagine not having my wife as one of the emergency contacts.    That's gonna fly well when you're in the ER and she doesn't...

I can't imagine not having my wife as one of the emergency contacts.    That's gonna fly well when you're in the ER and she doesn't know.  

My wife has my InReach account info, I make sure each time I go out...especially when i'm alone.     If I don't come home from a day out in the hills, she can locate me...(or at least my body). 

 

This technology has been around a while....  Nothing new here.  lol

 

 

 

My wife's first call would be to my riding buddies that know the trails and backroads I ride, so we skip that step. If the situation warrants, they'll make "the call". If you don't have any such friends then I understand your perspective. 

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7/22/2023 6:29am

Pretty cool tech that I wouldn’t have thought of myself. I like the red 25th anniversary model, might have to snag one

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7/22/2023 6:38am

THE VISOR AND PAINT ON THESE HELMETS IS A BLATANT MONEY GRAB!!!

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Johnny Ringo
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7/22/2023 6:53am Edited Date/Time 7/22/2023 6:53am

Best paint job Fly has had since Jesseman was wearing their lids IMO. Need one. 

IMG 0505

 

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7/22/2023 7:12am

I’d rather die alone knocked out in the woods, than wear Fly

Fucking send it bro. 

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7/22/2023 7:47am
Falcon wrote:
I'm all for additional safety features. This is only pushing the envelope a bit, and those of us who don't need it can buy something else. ...

I'm all for additional safety features. This is only pushing the envelope a bit, and those of us who don't need it can buy something else. 

It would be my luck that the helmet would fall off my tailgate while I'm away at the concession stand, roll to a stop, send out the location to emergency services, and then I'd get billed for an ambulance ride that didn't even happen. Because it was a false alarm, my insurance doesn't cover it, and I'm out of pocket $30,000. There's only a 0.00000001% chance that would ever happen, but I'd be the guy. 

aeffertz wrote:

It contacts your predetermined emergency contacts, it doesn't dial 911.

...unless it's mine. Then something goes wrong and it calls 911. Somehow, some way, I get screwed financially. It's always me, and always the worst possible outcome. 😂

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7/22/2023 9:15am
731chopper wrote:
That is really good information about Riddell's custom fitment. My oldest son has a very oddly shaped head because of something that happened during birth and...

That is really good information about Riddell's custom fitment. My oldest son has a very oddly shaped head because of something that happened during birth and I've spent so much money on trying to find decently fitting motorcycle helmets. I actually stopped progressing him on a dirt bike because his speed (not very much of it) started to make me really worry about his helmet fitment. I wish the off-road helmet manufacturers could come up with some type of custom fitment tech for the consumer.

Yea my kid is the same. I had them wearing 6D helmets when racing bmx and when he got too big for the youths his head did not fit the adults helmets. They did tell me they could send me some stuff to scan his head but then Covid hit and we and everyone else stopped racing so never looked into it. I just spent over $3000 ordering football helmets last month to try on for fit and most didn’t and that’s when I found out about the Riddle one. 
Its $950 but it is what it is. 

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7/22/2023 1:49pm
Zycki11 wrote:
I stand corrected on the "emergency" capabilities.  For a trail rider it makes sense..... I still argue that it is a bell and whistle concept that...

I stand corrected on the "emergency" capabilities.  For a trail rider it makes sense..... I still argue that it is a bell and whistle concept that is a money grab. 

Then don't buy it.

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7/22/2023 6:11pm

Many people who already ride/race with an Apple/Samsung/Garmin watch will not need this feature so to speak, as these watches automatically do exactly this if you do not press the "I'm OK" button after a crash/fall. But the insight into lap times and etc will be cool, like having a litpro unit built into the helmet. 

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7/22/2023 6:56pm
Marty1028 wrote:
Many people who already ride/race with an Apple/Samsung/Garmin watch will not need this feature so to speak, as these watches automatically do exactly this if you...

Many people who already ride/race with an Apple/Samsung/Garmin watch will not need this feature so to speak, as these watches automatically do exactly this if you do not press the "I'm OK" button after a crash/fall. But the insight into lap times and etc will be cool, like having a litpro unit built into the helmet. 

Does Apple have that function built in to its watches? I never heard that before, I genuinely do not know. Regardless, I would assume a ton of people don't have Apple watches. 

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7/25/2023 2:13am
Marty1028 wrote:
Many people who already ride/race with an Apple/Samsung/Garmin watch will not need this feature so to speak, as these watches automatically do exactly this if you...

Many people who already ride/race with an Apple/Samsung/Garmin watch will not need this feature so to speak, as these watches automatically do exactly this if you do not press the "I'm OK" button after a crash/fall. But the insight into lap times and etc will be cool, like having a litpro unit built into the helmet. 

aeffertz wrote:
Does Apple have that function built in to its watches? I never heard that before, I genuinely do not know. Regardless, I would assume a ton...

Does Apple have that function built in to its watches? I never heard that before, I genuinely do not know. Regardless, I would assume a ton of people don't have Apple watches. 

Yes, it's now natively built into the iPhone 14 as well.

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