Could the Sexton era already be over?

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kage173 7/14/2023 10:02am
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LungButter wrote:

Chase is this generations Windham but a little luck has got him an SX Championship that KW was never able to get.

This generations Windham except with a championship his 2nd year in 450s

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chasetwo79 7/14/2023 10:02am
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FreshTopEnd wrote:

There's a Sexton era?  

quadzrulebro wrote:

The Sexton era and the Anderson era are very similar at this point.

I am the hugest El Hombre fan, but I can't remember a time where he ever was the fastest guy week in and out for 2 years straight like Chase. 

Anderson also has never had the outdoor pace that Chase has more than a round or two. 

Either way, sign me up for both of their careers if given the chance. They both are in elite of elite air. 
 

 

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526 7/14/2023 10:03am
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Going to KTM I would say yes  

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LungButter 7/14/2023 10:08am
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kage173 wrote:

This generations Windham except with a championship his 2nd year in 450s

KW coulda had one too if one (or 2) of the top dawgs had a freak injury.

You gotta be in it to win it but we all know that Chase was lucky to get that Championship....he was the 3rd best guy....much like KW most of his career.

 

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Cayden Thompson 7/14/2023 10:29am
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mattyhamz2 wrote:
Chase is at the end of his time on a bike that he seems to have lost confidence in. Let's see how next year goes with...

Chase is at the end of his time on a bike that he seems to have lost confidence in. Let's see how next year goes with him on the KTM once he gets it dialed in. Remember, Jett is like everyone else out there and needs to stay off the ground and injury free. Yes, his riding style and how smooth he really is will help that, but this is motocross, you can do something 1000 times and the 1001 time will put you on the ground or cause an injury like we saw with Eli. Anything can happen.

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Chase like to bash the Honda but Jett is riding the same bike. Could Chase be the next Reed in the way of never being happy...

Chase like to bash the Honda but Jett is riding the same bike. Could Chase be the next Reed in the way of never being happy with any bike?

Chad liked the Suzuki...

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BCA2010 7/14/2023 11:29am
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At the beginning of 2017 roczen looked like he's was going on a run and gonna win everything and 1 injury can change everything. As of now jett looks like he will win everything for the next 10 years but as we just seen with tomac injuries happen to everyone and there's no predicting the next champion 

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The real Sasquatch 7/14/2023 11:31am
7/14/2023 11:31am
crusty_xx wrote:

Outdoors maybe. Indoors I think it will take Jett a couple years. RC dominated 250 MX right away. SX it took him a couple of years

The real Sasquatch wrote:
I think that Jett is a better SX rider than Outdoors. His style fits well with SX. I think he will be even better in SX...

I think that Jett is a better SX rider than Outdoors. His style fits well with SX. I think he will be even better in SX. Not to say that Chase or Eli will not have anything for him. Who knows if they wil or will not. I just will not be surprised if he is able to win in SX like he's doing outdoors. Who knows how Chase is feeling right now, if he is 100% or not. Jett is very impressive , and he will have a ton of confidence going into SX  if things keep going how they have been going.  With  Washougal coming up and being a good track for Chase ,and not a favorite of Jett's maybe things will be different . I don't know why Jett would not do well  there though, his style should work well there.  Hope its a good one. 

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Same was Chase and it took him a long time to be a serious championship contender. Not saying it's going to take Jett 3 years, but...

Same was Chase and it took him a long time to be a serious championship contender. Not saying it's going to take Jett 3 years, but I think in SX he'll find it harder than in MX initially. He went from winning 6/9 250W races to winning 12/12 450 races.

Chase was not  as dominant on a 250 as Jett has been in SX either though.  I'm pretty sure that Chase never won an overall outdoors on a 250 not sure if he got any moto wins. And his first year outdoors on a 450  he won a single overall. and then another 1 overall his second year outdoors.

 You could also compare him to MC who won the SX title his first year on a big bike. Or Dungey. I don't think that comparing Chase's first year in 450 SX is a great way to gage how Jett will do. I'm excited to see what he can do over his career in the 450 class. 

I think the 250 outdoors is a better way of measuring how a rider will do in the 450 class than their 250 SX results alone. It seems like the guys that do well in both SX/MX go on to do well in the 450 class compared to the guys who only won 250 SX titles and were not title contenders outdoors. If they can do well in SX on a 250 and then also do well in MX on a 250, it shows they can do well in the longer series and longer races. It will be interesting to see what happens when Tomac is back, if he comes back and is where he was before. I don't think Tomac would come back if he couldn't be were he was before.   

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526 wrote:

Going to KTM I would say yes  

Yeah, I can't say I have much confidence in the KTM/Baker program any more. For a while, going to KTM in the 450s was like going to PC in the 250s, but not any more. 

Who knows though, maybe KTM figure out some things with the bike and Chase just so happens to gel with the bike.

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The real Sasquatch wrote:
Chase was not  as dominant on a 250 as Jett has been in SX either though.  I'm pretty sure that Chase never won an overall outdoors...

Chase was not  as dominant on a 250 as Jett has been in SX either though.  I'm pretty sure that Chase never won an overall outdoors on a 250 not sure if he got any moto wins. And his first year outdoors on a 450  he won a single overall. and then another 1 overall his second year outdoors.

 You could also compare him to MC who won the SX title his first year on a big bike. Or Dungey. I don't think that comparing Chase's first year in 450 SX is a great way to gage how Jett will do. I'm excited to see what he can do over his career in the 450 class. 

I think the 250 outdoors is a better way of measuring how a rider will do in the 450 class than their 250 SX results alone. It seems like the guys that do well in both SX/MX go on to do well in the 450 class compared to the guys who only won 250 SX titles and were not title contenders outdoors. If they can do well in SX on a 250 and then also do well in MX on a 250, it shows they can do well in the longer series and longer races. It will be interesting to see what happens when Tomac is back, if he comes back and is where he was before. I don't think Tomac would come back if he couldn't be were he was before.   

Chase had only one moto win on a 250 and never won an overall.  He finished second overall once.  In his 3 seasons of 250 MX, he finished 12th, 6th and 5th in points.

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FerCzD 7/14/2023 12:08pm
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It was just the media that hyped him up as "The guy". But in reality it never felt like that.

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Cayden Thompson 7/14/2023 12:16pm
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526 wrote:

Going to KTM I would say yes  

I don't know, maybe with the last gen bike...

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The real Sasquatch 7/14/2023 12:19pm
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The real Sasquatch wrote:
Chase was not  as dominant on a 250 as Jett has been in SX either though.  I'm pretty sure that Chase never won an overall outdoors...

Chase was not  as dominant on a 250 as Jett has been in SX either though.  I'm pretty sure that Chase never won an overall outdoors on a 250 not sure if he got any moto wins. And his first year outdoors on a 450  he won a single overall. and then another 1 overall his second year outdoors.

 You could also compare him to MC who won the SX title his first year on a big bike. Or Dungey. I don't think that comparing Chase's first year in 450 SX is a great way to gage how Jett will do. I'm excited to see what he can do over his career in the 450 class. 

I think the 250 outdoors is a better way of measuring how a rider will do in the 450 class than their 250 SX results alone. It seems like the guys that do well in both SX/MX go on to do well in the 450 class compared to the guys who only won 250 SX titles and were not title contenders outdoors. If they can do well in SX on a 250 and then also do well in MX on a 250, it shows they can do well in the longer series and longer races. It will be interesting to see what happens when Tomac is back, if he comes back and is where he was before. I don't think Tomac would come back if he couldn't be were he was before.   

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Chase had only one moto win on a 250 and never won an overall.  He finished second overall once.  In his 3 seasons of 250 MX...

Chase had only one moto win on a 250 and never won an overall.  He finished second overall once.  In his 3 seasons of 250 MX, he finished 12th, 6th and 5th in points.

Yah I knew he had not gotten any overalls in the 250 class outdoors.  I wasn't sure if he had any moto wins. I am impressed with how much Chase has improved over his racing. If not for Honda signing him for the 450, I wouldn't have thought he would have gotten to the level he is at now. And I was wondering what Honda was thinking back when they moved him to a 450. As good as Chase has become, Jett seems to be on a different level. If not for crashing he would have won a 250SX in his first season. He was fast enough and stuck out right away. I have grown to become a fan of Sexton over the years, so I do not mean to sound like I'm talking badly of him. Its just kinda like comparing Jeff Stanton to Jeremy Mcgrath to me.   I could be wrong , but that's how I am looking at them at this point. 

 

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BobbyMyers 7/14/2023 4:37pm
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FreshTopEnd wrote:

There's a Sexton era?  

More like a "moment", not even close to an "era".

 

Where do these clown come from FTE? 

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FreshTopEnd 7/14/2023 4:57pm
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BobbyMyers wrote:

More like a "moment", not even close to an "era".

 

Where do these clown come from FTE? 

Well, Bob, it starts with a sperm and an egg, maybe some alcohol and a truck involved too . . . 

Maybe era meant "window of opportunity" . . . fair bench racing.  Great rider, top talent, sometimes we're in a hurry to make conclusions before things are concluded.  Be interesting to see the field next year.

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dirtwalker 7/14/2023 5:02pm
7/14/2023 5:02pm

I get this place is for bench racing. But wow. Now we are speculating about a summary of the next 5 years.  

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INeedaNewUsername 7/14/2023 5:11pm
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I'd like some lotto numbers from all you guys that seem to know the future. PM only please 

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mxxxeR1 7/14/2023 5:13pm
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Yes the sexton era is over......it is now the haiden deegan era......

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INeedaNewUsername 7/14/2023 5:15pm
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How dare Chase Sexton be consistent and be in it to win it. He used his magick powers to cause the the guy that "should" have won it to crash and lose. Love the sports psychology here, some real geniuses. Chase should just throw his title in the dumpster or give to the guy who crashed and lost the fn thing.

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ButteryWaffles 7/14/2023 5:22pm
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LungButter wrote:

Chase is this generations Windham but a little luck has got him an SX Championship that KW was never able to get.

Dude, Jett makes Chase look like he's riding a hard-tailed chopper out there. I thought Chase was smooth until I saw Jett ride in person.

I think Chase figures it out next year. I think he will do whatever it takes to win like RC did when he had to battle James. Gritt and determination vs talent. Let's see which one comes out on top in 2024. 

 

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Everyone acts like second place is complete disaster. Sexton has had some stiff competition the last couple years and has weathered it quite well. Dude is stacking the bank account and I'd bet he will get a good payday from KTM for his results and consistency. Since his crash I'd imagine it's hard to motivate himself to push beyond his comfort zone to make up what seems like an impossible points gap at this point. He's still burning everyone's ass but Jett.

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chasetwo79 7/14/2023 5:35pm
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mattyhamz2 wrote:
Chase is at the end of his time on a bike that he seems to have lost confidence in. Let's see how next year goes with...

Chase is at the end of his time on a bike that he seems to have lost confidence in. Let's see how next year goes with him on the KTM once he gets it dialed in. Remember, Jett is like everyone else out there and needs to stay off the ground and injury free. Yes, his riding style and how smooth he really is will help that, but this is motocross, you can do something 1000 times and the 1001 time will put you on the ground or cause an injury like we saw with Eli. Anything can happen.

VicDaMoan03 wrote:
Chase like to bash the Honda but Jett is riding the same bike. Could Chase be the next Reed in the way of never being happy...

Chase like to bash the Honda but Jett is riding the same bike. Could Chase be the next Reed in the way of never being happy with any bike?

Cayden Thompson wrote:

Chad liked the Suzuki...

He liked plenty of bikes over the years. He had a high bar and sometimes it got met and sometimes it did not. 

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MxAddic 7/14/2023 6:51pm
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What happens if he wins this weekend? Is it not over then?

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Chris_Buehler 7/14/2023 7:05pm
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Hcallz5 wrote:
Everyone acts like second place is complete disaster. Sexton has had some stiff competition the last couple years and has weathered it quite well. Dude is...

Everyone acts like second place is complete disaster. Sexton has had some stiff competition the last couple years and has weathered it quite well. Dude is stacking the bank account and I'd bet he will get a good payday from KTM for his results and consistency. Since his crash I'd imagine it's hard to motivate himself to push beyond his comfort zone to make up what seems like an impossible points gap at this point. He's still burning everyone's ass but Jett.

Chase has 30sec on the field easy. He said he felt better at Southwick than he did at Red Bud. I expect him to just keep getting better each weekend 

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Hcallz5 wrote:
Everyone acts like second place is complete disaster. Sexton has had some stiff competition the last couple years and has weathered it quite well. Dude is...

Everyone acts like second place is complete disaster. Sexton has had some stiff competition the last couple years and has weathered it quite well. Dude is stacking the bank account and I'd bet he will get a good payday from KTM for his results and consistency. Since his crash I'd imagine it's hard to motivate himself to push beyond his comfort zone to make up what seems like an impossible points gap at this point. He's still burning everyone's ass but Jett.

Same thing happened when Webb beat Roczen in SX a couple of years ago. "Roczen sucks, Roczen is washed up, Roczen should quit", except Roczen was still the second best SX rider in the world at the time. Go figure. 

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BobbyMyers 7/14/2023 11:18pm
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Hcallz5 wrote:
Everyone acts like second place is complete disaster. Sexton has had some stiff competition the last couple years and has weathered it quite well. Dude is...

Everyone acts like second place is complete disaster. Sexton has had some stiff competition the last couple years and has weathered it quite well. Dude is stacking the bank account and I'd bet he will get a good payday from KTM for his results and consistency. Since his crash I'd imagine it's hard to motivate himself to push beyond his comfort zone to make up what seems like an impossible points gap at this point. He's still burning everyone's ass but Jett.

Rightfully so, Chase is experiencing "I shot my wad already this year and I'm the 2023 SUPERCROSS champ so excuse me if I'm not as focused as others" syndrome. It happens. 

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ToolMaker 7/15/2023 12:39am
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I think we were/are hope to see that excitement of JS7 from dead last to first. The speed we've seen Chase run, hoping we'll get to see that again. But so many times we see him going light speed only to make unforced errors. How do you not think part of it is mental. If it is, and he gets it sorted out, he's a real threat. It could also go the other way. But for now, he seems to be the only one with the speed to make things interesting.

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JDub067 7/15/2023 12:58am
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Unless Chase is really, really unhappy on the Honda I’m not sure where all the extra speed comes from, there hasn’t been huge speed from the orange camp since Dunge imho 

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Kelz87 7/15/2023 1:04am
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LungButter wrote:

Chase is this generations Windham but a little luck has got him an SX Championship that KW was never able to get.

ButteryWaffles wrote:
Dude, Jett makes Chase look like he's riding a hard-tailed chopper out there. I thought Chase was smooth until I saw Jett ride in person. I...

Dude, Jett makes Chase look like he's riding a hard-tailed chopper out there. I thought Chase was smooth until I saw Jett ride in person.

I think Chase figures it out next year. I think he will do whatever it takes to win like RC did when he had to battle James. Gritt and determination vs talent. Let's see which one comes out on top in 2024. 

 

It’s true man, last year Chase was looking incredibly smooth (especially compared to Eli)

Now this season, Jett is smooth on a whole other level - it almost makes Chase look as aggressive as Eli Grinning  

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Pop Shmoke 7/15/2023 1:25am
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LungButter wrote:

Count me in the camp of "When did it begin?"

When eli tomac blew out his achilles and chase won the supercross championship many people believed that was eli’s last race. That was seen as a “passing of the guard” the top guy is gone and a new guy moved in to his place and won. In mx/sx usually one guy separates himself from the rest of the field and dominates and with eli gone it really looked like the chase era had just started. 
 

Fast forward a few months and eli is now rumored to be coming back and jett is looking untouchable so a lot of things have changed. Eli is going to be coming back from a massive injury and a year older into his 30s so theres no guarantee hes back in top form. Definitely going to be nice to have him back though.  

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Sandman New England 7/15/2023 2:45am
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mattyhamz2 wrote:
Chase is at the end of his time on a bike that he seems to have lost confidence in. Let's see how next year goes with...

Chase is at the end of his time on a bike that he seems to have lost confidence in. Let's see how next year goes with him on the KTM once he gets it dialed in. Remember, Jett is like everyone else out there and needs to stay off the ground and injury free. Yes, his riding style and how smooth he really is will help that, but this is motocross, you can do something 1000 times and the 1001 time will put you on the ground or cause an injury like we saw with Eli. Anything can happen.

I read logical comments like this and wonder how can people give a thumbs down. Some of the these Vital forum people are dopes

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