Jett Lawrence's future rival

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7/12/2023 5:17am
TKLEVEN wrote:

Austin Forkner. I gotta feeling…

it would be exciting to see Austin rise to his full potential on the 450 but the problem is the Lawrence brothers are turning a page in the history of motocross speed right now.

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I don’t want to even bring this up, I really don’t, but could there be anything else going on that can account for this huge gap between Lawrence and the rest? this is not an accusation, but the changeover we’re witnessing is something that just doesn’t happen. I want to believe it’s straight up talent but could performance enhancements of any kind be at play? again, not an accusation, I think the Lawrence brothers are simply badass, but someone will ask at some point.

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7/12/2023 5:26am Edited Date/Time 7/12/2023 5:28am
I don’t want to even bring this up, I really don’t, but could there be anything else going on that can account for this huge gap...

I don’t want to even bring this up, I really don’t, but could there be anything else going on that can account for this huge gap between Lawrence and the rest? this is not an accusation, but the changeover we’re witnessing is something that just doesn’t happen. I want to believe it’s straight up talent but could performance enhancements of any kind be at play? again, not an accusation, I think the Lawrence brothers are simply badass, but someone will ask at some point.

Seriously posts like this make me question if people have eyes, watch him ride you'll find answers to your questions.

If Jett is in question for using PED's you gotta question everyone who can power through a 30 min moto to the end, basically every factory rider.

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Everyone commenting here needs to watch Stewart's latest bubba's world show.

 

He breaks down the huge differences in riding styles between Jett and Chase.

Chase has more than enough speed.

It's Jett's technique he's lacking. 

If he can change his riding style, he'll give Jett all he can handle. 

Until then...

Get used to the winning streak continuing.

 

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7/12/2023 5:35am Edited Date/Time 7/12/2023 5:39am

Jett is one of those riders that make you want to pay money to watch race in person. When I watch other top factory riders riding on the ragged edge, I think to myself that's why I'm not a factory rider, first because I'm slow but also because in order to win, you have to ride like you're on the brink of disaster and serious injury and then comes along a rider like Jett Lawrence that almost seems like he's floating around the track and barely trying, but at the same time he's gapping everyone 2 or 3 seconds a lap and you think to yourself, I could do that, while you watch in amazement at how easy he makes it look.   It's a thing of beauty watch what looks like the total package lay carnage upon his competition.  You know he's good when James and Ricky look at him ride and seem amazed. 

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Chase... dude absolutely rips when he's not being his own worst enemy. He's obviously getting beat by Jett right now (albeit by a smaller margin than...

Chase... dude absolutely rips when he's not being his own worst enemy. He's obviously getting beat by Jett right now (albeit by a smaller margin than anybody else), but I don't think he's quite 100% yet. If I was a betting man, I'd bet Jett will win a majority of the titles in the next 5-6 years or so, but I could definitely see a healthy, prime Sexton (such as the guy we saw in 2022) take it to him

If we take Chase at his word that he isn't physically right yet, we know what he can do when he is...  Watching him so far this year, I can see where he isn't at last years speed.  Chase was ok on the 250, but his transition to 450 was a step up.

Future?  I think Lucas Coenen is the next really fast guy.  Right now he reminds me a lot of Jett on a 250. 

But Jett's transition to 450 has been spectacular, whoever wants to challenge Jett will have to find out how to make that transition go to another level.

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Chase is the apparent threat to Jett's dominance, but remember - Jett has beaten him in 6 out of 6 motos now. Sick or not, injured or not, Chase has to be starting to doubt his abilities, just like Jett is worrying less about him. Pair that with a potential switch to another brand next year and Sexton may be off the pace significantly for 2024. 
I think it's more likely that Hunter Lawrence will prove to be the spoiler. 

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Only one at the moment...Sexton.

7/12/2023 6:54am
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Chase... dude absolutely rips when he's not being his own worst enemy. He's obviously getting beat by Jett right now (albeit by a smaller margin than...

Chase... dude absolutely rips when he's not being his own worst enemy. He's obviously getting beat by Jett right now (albeit by a smaller margin than anybody else), but I don't think he's quite 100% yet. If I was a betting man, I'd bet Jett will win a majority of the titles in the next 5-6 years or so, but I could definitely see a healthy, prime Sexton (such as the guy we saw in 2022) take it to him

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If we take Chase at his word that he isn't physically right yet, we know what he can do when he is...  Watching him so far...

If we take Chase at his word that he isn't physically right yet, we know what he can do when he is...  Watching him so far this year, I can see where he isn't at last years speed.  Chase was ok on the 250, but his transition to 450 was a step up.

Future?  I think Lucas Coenen is the next really fast guy.  Right now he reminds me a lot of Jett on a 250. 

But Jett's transition to 450 has been spectacular, whoever wants to challenge Jett will have to find out how to make that transition go to another level.

I don’t really follow the GPs at all.  Does Coenen have SX skills and plans to come to the US to race SX soon?

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I don’t really follow the GPs at all.  Does Coenen have SX skills and plans to come to the US to race SX soon?

He’s from Belgium so his ”sx skills” should be limited. But he has won GP motos this year at the age of 16..

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Not only do I think it will be Deegan but I have come up with comparable rivals. 

Jett v Deegan = Bayle v Stanton

Maybe without the dislike because I don't know if those two dislike each other but Jett and Bayle are the best technique guys of their era and Deegan and Stanton are throwback hard-nosed riders. Unlike Bayle v Stanton I see Jett winning more than Deegan but if Jett leaves an opening Deegan will be there. 

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I know he's a rookie, only 17 etc. etc., but I just haven't seen that fight from the bad start to the front. If Hunter or Joe get a bad start, they have both proven they can come through the pack to the lead and win. Both are not very good starters, Haiden is a great starter, but has only won 1 moto. I'm starting to like HD but definitely  don't think it will be him to bring the fight to Jett. He will have to get through Hunter, Joe and then Chase just to see the back of Jett.

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I know he's a rookie, only 17 etc. etc., but I just haven't seen that fight from the bad start to the front. If Hunter or...

I know he's a rookie, only 17 etc. etc., but I just haven't seen that fight from the bad start to the front. If Hunter or Joe get a bad start, they have both proven they can come through the pack to the lead and win. Both are not very good starters, Haiden is a great starter, but has only won 1 moto. I'm starting to like HD but definitely  don't think it will be him to bring the fight to Jett. He will have to get through Hunter, Joe and then Chase just to see the back of Jett.

Jeremy McGrath wasn't known for his back to the front charges, know who was? Mike Larocco. he was a badass but would you rather charge through the pack for 2nd or just smoke all those chumps like MC did? 

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So! Ricky Carmichael made racing a little boring for awhile, because he was so dominant, but that ended when James Stewart moved up to the premier...

So! Ricky Carmichael made racing a little boring for awhile, because he was so dominant, but that ended when James Stewart moved up to the premier class and the Battle Royal! had begun and we were treated to some of the best racing ever.  So! Jett Lawrence is probably gonna be the guy for awhile and I don't think any of the current riders racing him are going to be his arch rival, Maybeeee! Tomac, but he's kind of at the twilight of his career and might not be willing to wring it out like he use to, so like any good story, who's the young gun that's gonna come along give Jett Lawrence a serious battle for the future championships.  Personally! I think it might be Haiden Deegan and would have loved to see those two have gone pro at the same time and the battles in the 250f class they would have had and he kind of reminds me of a young RC on the bike as far style.   Anyways! that's my guess, maybe Tom Vialle or somebody else like Daxton Bennick or maybe even Jo Shimoda. 

There needs to be a none of the above box

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Everyone commenting here needs to watch Stewart's latest bubba's world show.   He breaks down the huge differences in riding styles between Jett and Chase. Chase...

Everyone commenting here needs to watch Stewart's latest bubba's world show.

 

He breaks down the huge differences in riding styles between Jett and Chase.

Chase has more than enough speed.

It's Jett's technique he's lacking. 

If he can change his riding style, he'll give Jett all he can handle. 

Until then...

Get used to the winning streak continuing.

 

This is exactly it.  I dont see him doing anything that others cannot copy.  I would be willing to bet chase is watching alot of video right now figuring out how he does it.  Its just a bunch of subtle stuff combined with his excellent balance and bike control.

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Everyone commenting here needs to watch Stewart's latest bubba's world show.   He breaks down the huge differences in riding styles between Jett and Chase. Chase...

Everyone commenting here needs to watch Stewart's latest bubba's world show.

 

He breaks down the huge differences in riding styles between Jett and Chase.

Chase has more than enough speed.

It's Jett's technique he's lacking. 

If he can change his riding style, he'll give Jett all he can handle. 

Until then...

Get used to the winning streak continuing.

 

resetjet wrote:
This is exactly it.  I dont see him doing anything that others cannot copy.  I would be willing to bet chase is watching alot of video...

This is exactly it.  I dont see him doing anything that others cannot copy.  I would be willing to bet chase is watching alot of video right now figuring out how he does it.  Its just a bunch of subtle stuff combined with his excellent balance and bike control.

I like how James said that Jett pulls up to keep Chase in tow, to see if he can pick up lines and technique.

Then drops him.

(Talk about a head game)

 

May, or may not, be true.

But it was pretty funny.

7/12/2023 12:48pm

How many in the 450 class raced 250’s last year as well? I haven’t heard of any. 
 

my favorite conundrum is what happens when the lawerence brothers are in the 450 class or is Hunter staying in the 250’s?

personally thinking, it is possible that you might feel looked over at Honda right now and for who knows for how long.

Suggesting Jett uses PEDs though is a ridiculous accusation without proof. I think he’s just fast and it is a perfect time for him to start his career, vs let’s say 2-3-4-5 years ago. 

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If Jett dominates our AMA series’ for 3-4 years, I could actually see him moving on to something else or perhaps returning to MXGP.  I think...

If Jett dominates our AMA series’ for 3-4 years, I could actually see him moving on to something else or perhaps returning to MXGP.  I think he might get bored with moto and doesn’t strike me as the type of person to care about stacking titles or records.  More of a Pastrana like trajectory.

Any true “rival” I think will come from outside the AMA and maybe outside of moto altogether.

Jett already looks bored with winning. If he does not have a real challenger for 3-4 years I could see him bouncing at 24 with 20 mil in the bank. 

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7/12/2023 4:55pm

So!

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Do you not get enough attention at home ? 

Talk about attention. You could have just passed.

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Jetts biggest rival will be Fame and Money... wouldn't be surprised if we see him explode even more in the next few years and into main...

Jetts biggest rival will be Fame and Money...

wouldn't be surprised if we see him explode even more in the next few years and into main stream media. 

Why? too much too soon? Not enough struggle?

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Jetts biggest rival will be Fame and Money... wouldn't be surprised if we see him explode even more in the next few years and into main...

Jetts biggest rival will be Fame and Money...

wouldn't be surprised if we see him explode even more in the next few years and into main stream media. 

captmoto wrote:

Why? too much too soon? Not enough struggle?

For some.. Its easy to lose focus when money flows in and fame hits.

Personally i think Jetts group will keep him on track and fame wont be an issue. Could be the new McGrath and bring back the 90's fun

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Will Chase become the Kdub of the RC generation? Only time will tell. Jett will re-write the record books. 

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Only Father Time.

7/12/2023 7:05pm
TKLEVEN wrote:

Austin Forkner. I gotta feeling…

it would be exciting to see Austin rise to his full potential on the 450 but the problem is the Lawrence brothers are turning a page...

it would be exciting to see Austin rise to his full potential on the 450 but the problem is the Lawrence brothers are turning a page in the history of motocross speed right now.

Jett is turning a page. Hunter ain't Jett

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7/12/2023 8:00pm

Jett's future rival is now around 12 years old.

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7/12/2023 9:30pm Edited Date/Time 7/12/2023 9:32pm

Future rival:  Donuts.

 

Jett in 15 years when all the donuts catch up with him.

 

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McG194 wrote:
Not only do I think it will be Deegan but I have come up with comparable rivals.  Jett v Deegan = Bayle v Stanton Maybe without...

Not only do I think it will be Deegan but I have come up with comparable rivals. 

Jett v Deegan = Bayle v Stanton

Maybe without the dislike because I don't know if those two dislike each other but Jett and Bayle are the best technique guys of their era and Deegan and Stanton are throwback hard-nosed riders. Unlike Bayle v Stanton I see Jett winning more than Deegan but if Jett leaves an opening Deegan will be there. 

Deegan won’t be there often enough to be a serious rival if he rides like he did last weekend. Hard nosed or not, Southwick revealed some flaws in his skill level that need addressing.

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McG194 wrote:
Not only do I think it will be Deegan but I have come up with comparable rivals.  Jett v Deegan = Bayle v Stanton Maybe without...

Not only do I think it will be Deegan but I have come up with comparable rivals. 

Jett v Deegan = Bayle v Stanton

Maybe without the dislike because I don't know if those two dislike each other but Jett and Bayle are the best technique guys of their era and Deegan and Stanton are throwback hard-nosed riders. Unlike Bayle v Stanton I see Jett winning more than Deegan but if Jett leaves an opening Deegan will be there. 

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Deegan won’t be there often enough to be a serious rival if he rides like he did last weekend. Hard nosed or not, Southwick revealed some...

Deegan won’t be there often enough to be a serious rival if he rides like he did last weekend. Hard nosed or not, Southwick revealed some flaws in his skill level that need addressing.

A 17 year old has flaws, the hell you say. 

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I don’t want to even bring this up, I really don’t, but could there be anything else going on that can account for this huge gap...

I don’t want to even bring this up, I really don’t, but could there be anything else going on that can account for this huge gap between Lawrence and the rest? this is not an accusation, but the changeover we’re witnessing is something that just doesn’t happen. I want to believe it’s straight up talent but could performance enhancements of any kind be at play? again, not an accusation, I think the Lawrence brothers are simply badass, but someone will ask at some point.

Watch the Southwick video from RacerX. Jett just floats. 

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