Hunters bike - what was the issue?

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7/11/2023 7:26pm

I'm digging through my brain at the moment and I'm going back to the interview with maybe RJ or someone that was excited at that mudder SX earlier in the year "I'm excited because I know the Honda's run hot".

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7/11/2023 7:36pm
aeffertz wrote:
I'm digging through my brain at the moment and I'm going back to the interview with maybe RJ or someone that was excited at that mudder...

I'm digging through my brain at the moment and I'm going back to the interview with maybe RJ or someone that was excited at that mudder SX earlier in the year "I'm excited because I know the Honda's run hot".

It didn’t run Hot. The front fell off. 

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7/11/2023 7:48pm
AZ35 wrote:

Was I the only one that saw it?

The banana in the tailpipe (muffler) was the clear issue.... 

The youngsters just won't get it.

The ole banana in the tailpipe

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7/11/2023 7:57pm

Could have been as simple as the mechanic accidentally dropping some sand in the intake from changing the filter. 

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7/11/2023 9:17pm Edited Date/Time 7/11/2023 9:18pm
kwhite199 wrote:

Was most likely the Fetzer valve. They didn’t have the right 3 in 1 oil. 

They for sure didn’t prepare it with gauze pads and didn’t prepare with 10 quarts of quaker state antifreeze! 😂

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7/12/2023 5:14am

Did we ever find out why Jett's bike blew up at Redbud last year?

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7/12/2023 6:12am

Could have been as simple as the mechanic accidentally dropping some sand in the intake from changing the filter. 

The way the filter position is designed its very difficult to drop sand in the intake

7/12/2023 6:20am

Moto media will ask this simple and obvious question on camera with the team manager right?  Right? 

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7/12/2023 6:40am
Falcon wrote:
Bad piston, rod, bottom end, or other lubricated part = Honda's fault and people stop buying bikes. Can't have that. Bad batch of engine oil =...

Bad piston, rod, bottom end, or other lubricated part = Honda's fault and people stop buying bikes. Can't have that.

Bad batch of engine oil = throws the oil sponsor under the bus and people stop buying. Can't have that. Same with the coolant.

Weird electronic gremlins in the mysterious black box, made and sealed up by space aliens = to be expected. Nobody can get mad about that; after all, electronics are ineffable and they are so complicated that it's no wonder an ECU breaks now and then. 

Electronics so GET? Haha 

Well, there is that. But they can always say it was a different set of electronics than what they got from their sponsor. "Oh, the GET ignition was working fine! The problem was something deep inside the kowahinitsu conflubuglator. You never know when one of THOSE is going to blow!" 

I always crack up when they say "electronics." They never mention that the electronics stopped working when the piston came through the cylinder head and smashed the ECU into component bits. 

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7/12/2023 9:55am

Moto media will ask this simple and obvious question on camera with the team manager right?  Right? 

That's a fair statement. Maybe it's taboo? ML and Lewis have been asking some tough questions and it's very refreshing. I seem to remember Mitch getting grilled about a couple high profile failures a few years back.

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7/12/2023 10:22am
kwhite199 wrote:

Was most likely the Fetzer valve. They didn’t have the right 3 in 1 oil. 

bvm111 wrote:

They for sure didn’t prepare it with gauze pads and didn’t prepare with 10 quarts of quaker state antifreeze! 😂

It's all ball bearings now....

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7/12/2023 11:08am
jndmx wrote:

It's all ball bearings now....

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jndmx wrote:

It's all ball bearings now....

 

7647FE43-7D68-4C32-B2C2-B382E92800CD

 

maybe you need a refresher course! 

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7/12/2023 12:07pm
jndmx wrote:

It's all ball bearings now....

 

7647FE43-7D68-4C32-B2C2-B382E92800CD

 

bvm111 wrote:

maybe you need a refresher course! 

The technical answer is......Sand caused the Muffler Bearings to fail, creating an increase in back pressure which placed high forces on the Piston Return Spring, ultimately causing the Piston to hit the Exhaust Valve, resulting in a catastrophic explosion within the Cylinder and Cylinder Head area.

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7/12/2023 12:51pm

Trying to pump too much HP out of it to keep up with the blue bikes...

kiwifan wrote:

seriously? the bikes got thrashed mercilessly when celebrating their wins etc last year and never failed, and those bikes were consistently beating the Star ones.

Don't forget Jett's bike grenaded last year also. 

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7/12/2023 1:18pm
aeffertz wrote:
I'm digging through my brain at the moment and I'm going back to the interview with maybe RJ or someone that was excited at that mudder...

I'm digging through my brain at the moment and I'm going back to the interview with maybe RJ or someone that was excited at that mudder SX earlier in the year "I'm excited because I know the Honda's run hot".

Matthes mentioned that on Pulp this week. 

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7/12/2023 2:34pm
Sachmo831 wrote:
 Bad picture quality but this is from the broadcast. Looks to me like the front half moon portion of the valve cover gasket is blown out...

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 Bad picture quality but this is from the broadcast. Looks to me like the front half moon portion of the valve cover gasket is blown out. Extreme crankcase pressure can cause this. I've seen a nitrous motor go lean melting a hole in a piston which then blew out every gasket on the motor including the dipstick. 

Man, that fkr got hottt!

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7/12/2023 3:08pm
wrc777 wrote:

Did we ever find out why Jett's bike blew up at Redbud last year?

Piston failure.

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7/12/2023 7:10pm

Muffler bearing burned up. 

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7/13/2023 12:03am
Sachmo831 wrote:
 Bad picture quality but this is from the broadcast. Looks to me like the front half moon portion of the valve cover gasket is blown out...

20230710 175738

 Bad picture quality but this is from the broadcast. Looks to me like the front half moon portion of the valve cover gasket is blown out. Extreme crankcase pressure can cause this. I've seen a nitrous motor go lean melting a hole in a piston which then blew out every gasket on the motor including the dipstick. 

Blew the intake boot off as well . Laughing

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7/13/2023 2:13am

70s GP story:

Works bike snapped in half. Official DNF explanation was ‘electrical failure’.

Mechanic in the beer tent Sunday night explained that when the bike broke, it snapped the wires leading to the coil. Hence the bike did indeed stop because of ‘electrical failure’…

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7/13/2023 2:43am
Robgvx wrote:
70s GP story: Works bike snapped in half. Official DNF explanation was ‘electrical failure’. Mechanic in the beer tent Sunday night explained that when the bike...

70s GP story:

Works bike snapped in half. Official DNF explanation was ‘electrical failure’.

Mechanic in the beer tent Sunday night explained that when the bike broke, it snapped the wires leading to the coil. Hence the bike did indeed stop because of ‘electrical failure’…

😂 Like the early days of the modern four stroke- a dropped valve would hit the spark plug electrode and close the gap- no spark, electrical fault.

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