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Edited Date/Time 6/21/2023 1:53pm

The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an increase of 174 total units.

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I'm still trying to sell mine!

 

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alphado wrote:

I'm still trying to sell mine!

 

Put Roczen's graphics on it. 

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alphado wrote:

I'm still trying to sell mine!

 

McG194 wrote:

Put Roczen's graphics on it. 

Put eStart on it

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dcg141 wrote:
The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an...

The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an increase of 174 total units.

Not a huge number, but that's still $1.4mil INCREASE in sales...  For changing nothing but a rider.  Wink

It would be very interesting to see what they forecasted sales to be with the addition of the magic button and a diet.

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dcg141 wrote:
The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an...

The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an increase of 174 total units.

Press516 wrote:
Not a huge number, but that's still $1.4mil INCREASE in sales...  For changing nothing but a rider.  ;) It would be very interesting to see what...

Not a huge number, but that's still $1.4mil INCREASE in sales...  For changing nothing but a rider.  Wink

It would be very interesting to see what they forecasted sales to be with the addition of the magic button and a diet.

24 models are out. 

6/21/2023 4:14pm
dcg141 wrote:
The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an...

The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an increase of 174 total units.

Press516 wrote:
Not a huge number, but that's still $1.4mil INCREASE in sales...  For changing nothing but a rider.  ;) It would be very interesting to see what...

Not a huge number, but that's still $1.4mil INCREASE in sales...  For changing nothing but a rider.  Wink

It would be very interesting to see what they forecasted sales to be with the addition of the magic button and a diet.

For just 1 quarter...

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dcg141 wrote:
The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an...

The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an increase of 174 total units.

Tyler financed all 174 units for 3 years at 0% interest. He couldn't pass up the deal. He'll figure out what to do after the 3 years is up. 

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dcg141 wrote:
The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an...

The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an increase of 174 total units.

IWreckALot wrote:
Tyler financed all 174 units for 3 years at 0% interest. He couldn't pass up the deal. He'll figure out what to do after the 3...

Tyler financed all 174 units for 3 years at 0% interest. He couldn't pass up the deal. He'll figure out what to do after the 3 years is up. 

Thats a lot of bikes to put Kerry Harris Satellite graphics on.

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dcg141 wrote:
The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an...

The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an increase of 174 total units.

Press516 wrote:
Not a huge number, but that's still $1.4mil INCREASE in sales...  For changing nothing but a rider.  ;) It would be very interesting to see what...

Not a huge number, but that's still $1.4mil INCREASE in sales...  For changing nothing but a rider.  Wink

It would be very interesting to see what they forecasted sales to be with the addition of the magic button and a diet.

For just 1 quarter...

Concur...  I suspect that exceeds the pace for annual sales, but still interesting.

 

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So doing some maths Suzuki sold roughly 240 combined 250s and 450s in quarter one of 2022. They really were skirting the homologation line.

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Where can we find those figures?

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On a local level, I actually haven't seen one in awhile. During supercross there was word from a few shops of people coming in and buying them, as well as getting calls asking about stock.

I know, rather meaningless information in the grand scheme, but certainly noticeable to me. I took this pic 3 years ago when they couldn't give them away...

20200901 101642-1.jpg?VersionId=p2xE9WIbqOliqiDTWaac8OmtkOt

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GrapeApe wrote:

So doing some maths Suzuki sold roughly 240 combined 250s and 450s in quarter one of 2022. They really were skirting the homologation line.

They just need 400 to be available to be sold. Doesn't matter if they sell 1 or 1000 as long as 400 were available. 

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I brought 2 Suzukis to the track last week,  I greatly inflated local numbers being seen in public Laughing

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GrapeApe wrote:

So doing some maths Suzuki sold roughly 240 combined 250s and 450s in quarter one of 2022. They really were skirting the homologation line.

stremme12 wrote:

They just need 400 to be available to be sold. Doesn't matter if they sell 1 or 1000 as long as 400 were available. 

400 of the 450s and 400 of the 250s, right?

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GrapeApe wrote:

So doing some maths Suzuki sold roughly 240 combined 250s and 450s in quarter one of 2022. They really were skirting the homologation line.

stremme12 wrote:

They just need 400 to be available to be sold. Doesn't matter if they sell 1 or 1000 as long as 400 were available. 

GrapeApe wrote:

400 of the 450s and 400 of the 250s, right?

Yeah.

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dcg141 wrote:
The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an...

The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an increase of 174 total units.

Press516 wrote:
Not a huge number, but that's still $1.4mil INCREASE in sales...  For changing nothing but a rider.  ;) It would be very interesting to see what...

Not a huge number, but that's still $1.4mil INCREASE in sales...  For changing nothing but a rider.  Wink

It would be very interesting to see what they forecasted sales to be with the addition of the magic button and a diet.

I googled Suzuki's sales numbers and saw that there operating margin was somewhere around 8.8%.  Even if they did receive $1.4M in increased wholesale sales (likely a lot less as they probably have to rebate heavily to move the units) that would add less than $125K to their profit margins.  I think that they probably sunk quite a bit more than that into Roczen's SX season.  

Could still be a good investment if they follow up with some improvements and gain some momentum, though!

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6/23/2023 2:58pm
dcg141 wrote:
The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an...

The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an increase of 174 total units.

Press516 wrote:
Not a huge number, but that's still $1.4mil INCREASE in sales...  For changing nothing but a rider.  ;) It would be very interesting to see what...

Not a huge number, but that's still $1.4mil INCREASE in sales...  For changing nothing but a rider.  Wink

It would be very interesting to see what they forecasted sales to be with the addition of the magic button and a diet.

APLMAN99 wrote:
I googled Suzuki's sales numbers and saw that there operating margin was somewhere around 8.8%.  Even if they did receive $1.4M in increased wholesale sales (likely...

I googled Suzuki's sales numbers and saw that there operating margin was somewhere around 8.8%.  Even if they did receive $1.4M in increased wholesale sales (likely a lot less as they probably have to rebate heavily to move the units) that would add less than $125K to their profit margins.  I think that they probably sunk quite a bit more than that into Roczen's SX season.  

Could still be a good investment if they follow up with some improvements and gain some momentum, though!

But if you are talking profit margin, Roczen's expense is already in there.

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dcg141 wrote:
The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an...

The good news is that Suzuki total competition bike sales were up thru the 1st quarter of 2023. Nearly 70%!!! The bad news, that's only an increase of 174 total units.

Press516 wrote:
Not a huge number, but that's still $1.4mil INCREASE in sales...  For changing nothing but a rider.  ;) It would be very interesting to see what...

Not a huge number, but that's still $1.4mil INCREASE in sales...  For changing nothing but a rider.  Wink

It would be very interesting to see what they forecasted sales to be with the addition of the magic button and a diet.

APLMAN99 wrote:
I googled Suzuki's sales numbers and saw that there operating margin was somewhere around 8.8%.  Even if they did receive $1.4M in increased wholesale sales (likely...

I googled Suzuki's sales numbers and saw that there operating margin was somewhere around 8.8%.  Even if they did receive $1.4M in increased wholesale sales (likely a lot less as they probably have to rebate heavily to move the units) that would add less than $125K to their profit margins.  I think that they probably sunk quite a bit more than that into Roczen's SX season.  

Could still be a good investment if they follow up with some improvements and gain some momentum, though!

Keep in mind that the Roczen effect has likely increased sales and interest around the world, not just in the US. But as you say, Suzuki needs to take advantage of that momentum, and unfortunately that’s where the doubt lies.

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CPR wrote:
Keep in mind that the Roczen effect has likely increased sales and interest around the world, not just in the US. But as you say, Suzuki...

Keep in mind that the Roczen effect has likely increased sales and interest around the world, not just in the US. But as you say, Suzuki needs to take advantage of that momentum, and unfortunately that’s where the doubt lies.

And with WSX the sales around the world will increase even more.  
 

is Kenny signed for 2024 with Suzuki?

that would continue to help sales. 

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Keep in mind that the Roczen effect has likely increased sales and interest around the world, not just in the US. But as you say, Suzuki...

Keep in mind that the Roczen effect has likely increased sales and interest around the world, not just in the US. But as you say, Suzuki needs to take advantage of that momentum, and unfortunately that’s where the doubt lies.

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And with WSX the sales around the world will increase even more.     is Kenny signed for 2024 with Suzuki? that would continue to help...

And with WSX the sales around the world will increase even more.  
 

is Kenny signed for 2024 with Suzuki?

that would continue to help sales. 

I haven’t heard anything re; Roczen and HEP/ Suzuki. I for one hope he stays there.

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How much truth is there in hep moving away from Suzuki , I can’t see Kenny leaving the team but I wouldn’t be surprised by a brand switch , also ferrandis joining him ? 

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It's not about selling just MX bikes. It is about brand awareness. Kenny helps Suzuki sell outboard motors and cars too.

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70% is 70%

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GrapeApe wrote:

So doing some maths Suzuki sold roughly 240 combined 250s and 450s in quarter one of 2022. They really were skirting the homologation line.

They have been skirting those numbers for several years now.

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Pretty simple , put a button on it and that would be just as good investment or if not better ,than paying KR to endorse their brand 

6/24/2023 11:35am
CPR wrote:

I haven’t heard anything re; Roczen and HEP/ Suzuki. I for one hope he stays there.

Hope he resigns with Suzuki too. 
he looks good on that bike. 

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6/24/2023 11:56am
Spoonguy wrote:

It's not about selling just MX bikes. It is about brand awareness. Kenny helps Suzuki sell outboard motors and cars too.

Yup, ATV's too. probable even Suzuki hats and clothing etc.   I remember reading about how much $$ of each RMZ sold it would take to pay RC's salary back then.  And back then they were selling much better than now. And it was a big chunk of each bike. Maybe somebody could find the article and compare to what it cost them for Kenny. 

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64smoker wrote:
How much truth is there in hep moving away from Suzuki , I can’t see Kenny leaving the team but I wouldn’t be surprised by a...

How much truth is there in hep moving away from Suzuki , I can’t see Kenny leaving the team but I wouldn’t be surprised by a brand switch , also ferrandis joining him ? 

The good folks running HEP have told me "We bleed yellow", so I would have to assume that unless Suzuki completely backs out or another mfg sticks a big enough bag of cash on their table that HEP will continue as the Suzuki team.

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SoCalMX70 wrote:
On a local level, I actually haven't seen one in awhile. During supercross there was word from a few shops of people coming in and buying...

On a local level, I actually haven't seen one in awhile. During supercross there was word from a few shops of people coming in and buying them, as well as getting calls asking about stock.

I know, rather meaningless information in the grand scheme, but certainly noticeable to me. I took this pic 3 years ago when they couldn't give them away...

20200901 101642-1.jpg?VersionId=p2xE9WIbqOliqiDTWaac8OmtkOt

Love me some Simi Cycles...

Edit: My second real job in life was next door at Green Acres. 

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