Kickstarters, just think about it for a sec.

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mb60 6/22/2023 8:33pm
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Go buy a new vehicle and ask for roll up windows. Then load up the kickstart Suzuki.

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soggy 6/22/2023 8:43pm
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mattyhamz2 wrote:
If Suzuki adds E-start the same dudes that sucks down beer and brats like they are going out of style will bitch about the bike being...

If Suzuki adds E-start the same dudes that sucks down beer and brats like they are going out of style will bitch about the bike being too heavy. Suzuki could address the weight issue and the same dudes will still bitch that it took them too long to make the changes. That’s the reality of it.

Yea pretty much what I’m saying. 

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OrangeJuice158 6/22/2023 9:57pm
6/22/2023 9:57pm
soggy wrote:
 The fact is yes the e-start is a key missing feature. But even if Suzuki put an e-start on the bike it’s still not being updated...

 The fact is yes the e-start is a key missing feature. But even if Suzuki put an e-start on the bike it’s still not being updated and updates are what people want regardless if it’s better or not.

mattyhamz2 wrote:
If Suzuki adds E-start the same dudes that sucks down beer and brats like they are going out of style will bitch about the bike being...

If Suzuki adds E-start the same dudes that sucks down beer and brats like they are going out of style will bitch about the bike being too heavy. Suzuki could address the weight issue and the same dudes will still bitch that it took them too long to make the changes. That’s the reality of it.

Thanks dude, now I want some beer and brats. 

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mattyhamz2 6/22/2023 11:14pm
6/22/2023 11:14pm
soggy wrote:
 The fact is yes the e-start is a key missing feature. But even if Suzuki put an e-start on the bike it’s still not being updated...

 The fact is yes the e-start is a key missing feature. But even if Suzuki put an e-start on the bike it’s still not being updated and updates are what people want regardless if it’s better or not.

mattyhamz2 wrote:
If Suzuki adds E-start the same dudes that sucks down beer and brats like they are going out of style will bitch about the bike being...

If Suzuki adds E-start the same dudes that sucks down beer and brats like they are going out of style will bitch about the bike being too heavy. Suzuki could address the weight issue and the same dudes will still bitch that it took them too long to make the changes. That’s the reality of it.

OrangeJuice158 wrote:

Thanks dude, now I want some beer and brats. 

You’re welcome Laughing

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AH387 6/23/2023 5:10am
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mattyhamz2 wrote:
If Suzuki adds E-start the same dudes that sucks down beer and brats like they are going out of style will bitch about the bike being...

If Suzuki adds E-start the same dudes that sucks down beer and brats like they are going out of style will bitch about the bike being too heavy. Suzuki could address the weight issue and the same dudes will still bitch that it took them too long to make the changes. That’s the reality of it.

Not really. The general consumer would just like the bike to have e-start and weight be in line with the other brands, as an option. I think that is a fair request, given how the MX industry is. I think you are over-emphasizing the "it took to long to update" crowd. That is hardly a reason to defend leaving the bike as-is. 

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mb60 wrote:

Go buy a new vehicle and ask for roll up windows. Then load up the kickstart Suzuki.

He better ask for a hand crank start Truck to be brought back as well, since E-Start is so bad.

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endurox 6/23/2023 6:16am
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Model T's had hand crank starters

HonDawg17 6/23/2023 8:10am
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Motoxdoc wrote:
I’ve been kicking my 08 CRF 490 Athena big bore for 15 years…many times I have thought, for the love of god, give me a magic...

I’ve been kicking my 08 CRF 490 Athena big bore for 15 years…many times I have thought, for the love of god, give me a magic button!!!…unfortunately, my wallet doesn’t talk to me so….
I was totally bummed for Kenny when I saw him kicking his bike in the middle of the track last week.  On the other hand, I was thinking, yeah, Kenny and I are a lot alike. 

That's a long time to be kicking a Honda. But it makes sense that a Honda from '08 hasn't been able to start in 15 years from new..

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Big E 6/23/2023 8:59am
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There should be a kickstart only class. 

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ToolMaker 6/23/2023 8:23pm
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Pretty sure if kick start bikes are sooo importat to you, there should be some Chinese bikes coming soon.

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Motoxdoc wrote:
I’ve been kicking my 08 CRF 490 Athena big bore for 15 years…many times I have thought, for the love of god, give me a magic...

I’ve been kicking my 08 CRF 490 Athena big bore for 15 years…many times I have thought, for the love of god, give me a magic button!!!…unfortunately, my wallet doesn’t talk to me so….
I was totally bummed for Kenny when I saw him kicking his bike in the middle of the track last week.  On the other hand, I was thinking, yeah, Kenny and I are a lot alike. 

HonDawg17 wrote:
That's a long time to be kicking a Honda. But it makes sense that a Honda from '08 hasn't been able to start in 15 years...

That's a long time to be kicking a Honda. But it makes sense that a Honda from '08 hasn't been able to start in 15 years from new..

I had a 04 250R, if I didn't kill it by pulling in the hot start lever, it was many kicks to bring it back to life. Just sayin

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kawi-bunga.dude 6/24/2023 5:34am
6/24/2023 5:34am

I had a Honda 450r (atv) I used to race. It had a kick start. And sometimes, it would try and kick start you.

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mx317 6/24/2023 3:25pm
6/24/2023 3:25pm

Having a kickstarter would be better if it were 5 lbs lighter than the other bikes. Having a kickstarter and being the heaviest seems like poor engineering to me. 

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mb60 6/24/2023 7:39pm
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mb60 wrote:

Go buy a new vehicle and ask for roll up windows. Then load up the kickstart Suzuki.

ThatOneKid wrote:

He better ask for a hand crank start Truck to be brought back as well, since E-Start is so bad.

I'm all for Suzuki to stay racing. But come on man put a e start on the dam thing. If I'm spending 9k on a new bike it better have the button. 

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BigRedMachine 6/26/2023 8:27pm
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premiersportsoutlet wrote:

I wish my Husky had a kick starter. My battery died during an enduro race and couldn’t get it running!

I have a 2007 KTM 525 XCW with a kick starter and electric start, hardly noticed the added weight of the kick starter and the piece of mind knowing it's there just in case your battery dies is nice.  I can see bikes used strictly for motocross having an electric start, since it's not a long ways back to the truck, but when you're 50 miles into a trail ride, it could be a long walk unless you have a nice hill you can bump start it. 

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captmoto 6/27/2023 7:05am
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zehn wrote:
Kicks first try every time sounds a lot like wheelies in every gear these days 

Kicks first try every time sounds a lot like wheelies in every gear these days Laughing

Powerband in every gear.

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